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Pete Rose; should he be in the HOF?
6 years ago  ::  Jan 05, 2007 - 4:08AM #21
GlenninVirginia
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"Pete Rose IS in the Hall of Fame -- he just doesn't have a plaque."

That's one of the most intelligent things you've ever said.
6 years ago  ::  Jan 05, 2007 - 4:10AM #22
GlenninVirginia
Posts: 5,707

"My feeling is that a lifetime ban should be that - a lifetime ban.


"Just induct them after they die so they can't profit from it. Death releases all debts."

My God, boy! You're on a roll.


6 years ago  ::  Jan 05, 2007 - 2:59PM #23
Sorianodude12
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He says some really smart things every once in a while. lol.
6 years ago  ::  Jan 05, 2007 - 3:55PM #24
ohioyanksfan
Posts: 10
Didn't he get into some legal trouble too, not too long ago? A few years back maybe? Something with taxes maybe? I seem to remember something, but can't remember what.
6 years ago  ::  Jan 05, 2007 - 5:19PM #25
twodeemo
Posts: 29
I believe it was a tax evasion thing. Undelcared income from card shows or some such. I believe he also had a drug problem some time ago, but I'm not sure.
6 years ago  ::  Jan 05, 2007 - 6:43PM #26
ohioyanksfan
Posts: 10
Pretty much a loser, IMO.
6 years ago  ::  Jan 06, 2007 - 3:43AM #27
GlenninVirginia
Posts: 5,707
"I believe he also had a drug problem some time ago, but I'm not sure."

Pete Rose never had a "drug problem." Pete Rose, Jr., was indicted and probably convicted for distributing an illegal drug, gamma butyrolactone, a steroid wanna be.
6 years ago  ::  Jan 09, 2007 - 1:37AM #28
MyYESNetwork
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I have a compromise.


Pete Rose should be given a bust, but it should sit OUTSIDE the HOF, forever looking in.


Its quite metaphoric, if you think about it...


6 years ago  ::  Jan 09, 2007 - 2:07AM #29
MyYESNetwork
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One step better or bettor as it were; make the bust a slot machine, visitors play a quarter and try to win a 'free admission' token to the Hall.
6 years ago  ::  Jan 09, 2007 - 2:28AM #30
fatgiambi
Posts: 14
the problem is the criteria isn't clearly articulated and the standards of society keep changing (hopefully) to become less tolerant of liars, cheaters and criminals. but how can you justify keeping a modern day player out if a guy of similar questionable character from days past is in. and do we know the lengths to which old timers went to "get an advantage". is the media so large and prevalent now that we have more insight as to what goes on in clubhouse? and does that it turn work against modern day players?

personally, i think that the criteria should change with the day. if you in any way corrupt the game of baseball for you own personal advantage, then you don't deserve to be in. that said, you can probably make amends by showing certain positive changes after your playing days are over.

i would let rose in - he's different than the roiders. he bet on the games, yes that corrupted the game and he used it to his personal advantage, but that advantage was economic. he did not directly give himself a playing field advantage. bonds, mcgwire, raffy, sosa - no way.
mattingly - yes. :--)
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