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All I'll say is this, and it is the last thing I will say on the subject...

Actually, I will let YOU say it:

(from your earliest post on the subject): "It interests me that in New Jersey, the smoking ban went through relatively easily, whereas a recently proposed trans fat ban was so vehemently opposed that the state senator who suggested it had to shut off her phones."

Hmmm.... was that not "the public" speaking out on the matter? Don't be so quick to discount the voice of the people, especially when that voice expresses their opposition "so vehemently."

...or were all those calls from restauranteers?

P.S. - The new girl scout cookies are not as good as the old ones.... Sigh.

The public may very well be uninformed on the subject, but they apparently care about it (and in numbers), so your viewpoint that this is something that is strictly geared towards "business owners" is shot to sheet.

Where we differ (and why we must ultimately agree to disagree), is that I put more faith in humanity, and our ability to educate ourselves. You seem to think the public is uniformed and meant to stay that way (or at the very least, incapable of becoming informed).

The public was educated on the subject of smoking, and is left to make its own choices. And the government mandates that cigarettes come with warning labels, should anyone have missed the point. Why could or even should not the same logic apply here?

And not for nothing... in my lifetime I have heard "scientists" say that red meat was bad for us, then say years later it was good for us.... same with eggs.... same with cholesterol (and today, we have "good" cholesterol and "bad" cholesterol. Why should this be any different? Trans fats have been around for a considerable time... why NOW the sudden epidemic? Perhaps you were completely right about scientists seeking to confuse (and even scare) the public in order to force agendas... put perhaps that is happening on the OTHER side of the fence... ? Ponder that for a bit.

I don't know... better check with the "experts" on what the opinion of the day is... LOL :)

That is while the government still allows you to have on-the-fly-and-out-the-door double lattes. :)

Oh no!

Let us hope that the frothy milk hasn't made the "verboten" list!

Haha :)