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OK Nevadayank this is the last time I talk to you aside from when I want to get a laugh. I mean, I can't take you seriously when you say that planes were being blown up monthly coming out of NY and Boston during the Clinton era, and you mention only one plane crash. Talk about talking points, please, stop listening to Mr. Limbaugh he's f***ing with your memory.

In September 2001, we had a fresh military ready to go. Today, we have an underfunded, overworked, and demoralized corp.

In September 2001, Iraq was a relatively stable, secular country. Today it is a fundamentalist sinkhole with no end to sectarian violence in sight.

Shortly after 9/11, our military had Osama bin Laden on the ropes, and Al Quaeda struggling. Today Osama remains at large, taunts Americans, and his organization is recovering quickly.

In September 2001, we had a united country, with liberals and conservatives alike ready to set aside differences (even after a highly controversial election), stand behind the President, and fightour enemies. Today we have a sharply divided one, where any good idea from either side will be met with partisan bickering. And we no longer even agree as to who are enemies are.

The above is entirely Bush's doing. He squandered all goodwill that 9/11 created both in and out of the United States, and if our mistakes weren't so deadly, we'd be a laughingstock.

Are we safer than in 2001? Not in the slightest.

"The above is entirely Bush's doing. He squandered all goodwill that 9/11 created both in and out of the United States, and if our mistakes weren't so deadly, we'd be a laughingstock."

Exactly the garbage that a Sean Penn would write, What goodwill the bunch of SOB's that after the wall came down turned their build up subservient hatred towards the worlds only remaining Super Power? Is that the goodwill you are talking about or the goodwill that the leaders of France took when they collected billions in hush money to protect Saddam's Iraq, or is it the same Good will that allows the Europeans to come between us and Iran building a Nuclear bomb.

"In September 2001, Iraq was a relatively stable, secular country. Today it is a fundamentalist sinkhole with no end to sectarian violence in sight."

That my friend is the way I like it for every suicide bomber that blows himself up in the middle East it is one less maniac that the outside world has to deal with. Perhaps one day some father in the middle east will get up from his prayer carpet and go smack the living daylights out of another that is trying to convince his son or daughter to blow himself up in the name of their god. Until then I have no hope or respect for a nation that believes life is so cheap that the leader Saddam that you state had a stable country would gas to death his own innocent people and then then boast to the world that they had done such a thing and also when the peoples are given an opportunity for peace they turn around and commit crimes against humanity daily to one another.

And then we have a clown claiming that the United states is so superior that we never have to worry when it comes to any enemy such as Europe. Isn't that what every American believed before WW2 that Germany and Japan where nothing? December 7th Pearl Harbor changed all that, when what must have been for every American at that time Japan pulled out of thin air a better equipped battle fleet than what the Americans possessed. And now 9/11, when terrorist came up with a plan so diabolical that never in all of action novels or movies had a plot so catastrophic every been pondered, And yet we have old Benny telling everyone that they should relax bring the troops home we in America are well protected because because all the world needs is love. Go stick your head in the sand but you have to excuse me if I do not follow you 9/11 was enough warning for me that the United States is in a full scale war.

By the way that was two example of jetliners blowing up or crashing for no apparent reason one a flight From Boston to Paris and the other New York to Cairo, I care less if you agree or not due to the fact that Clinton did not agree that he was under attack either until the last day of his presidency he hands Bush a folder saying by the way we have determined we are at war with Al-Qaeda and you should keep an eye out for Bin-Laden.

As far as writing anything to you Ben do not worry about that due to the fact it has been a very long time since you have written anything of importance. your style is to criticize and not to contribute, I feel very sorry for anyone that has to actually know you outside of the net.

"Clinton did not agree that he was under attack either until the last
day of his presidency he hands Bush a folder saying by the way we have
determined we are at war with Al-Qaeda and you should keep an eye out
for Bin-Laden."

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That my friend is the way I like it for every suicide bomber that blows himself up in the middle East it is one less maniac that the outside world has to deal with.

This is basically a rewording of the, "We're fighting them over there so we don't have to fight them over here," garbage.

Every suicide bomber who blows himself up in Iraq was one guy we didn't have to worry about before the invasion; sectarian violence wasn't an issue when Saddam Hussein's secular government was in place.

This isn't to say Hussein was a good guy. But he had a common interest with the United States in curbing fundamentalist Muslim civil war, and no plan was in place to handle that interest once he was gone. If you're going to bump off a dictator, you need to be able to run the place better than he can. No rational person could say that has even come close to happening.

The zealots outside of Iraq (like that bin Laden guy) still want to attack us over here, and nothing has been done about that. Even if we're to accept the disgusting premise that sending troops to draw terrorist fire is acceptable, terrorists are aware that attacking them is not an effective way to achieve their goals.