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Newsday started poll to fire Willie already.
6 years ago  ::  Oct 01, 2007 - 8:29AM #81
DakotahJohn58
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And Sadly, Mets' Nation is Blaming him for the COLLAPSE!


Too Bad they can't Give the Phillies Some of the Credit......!!


The Phillies Deserve alot of the Credit!


Yes (2567 responses)


56.9%


No (1947 responses)


43.1%


Roberts pressed the issue. Lo Duca bottom-lined him, saying: "... Someone needs to stand up. I said something. The guy threw me out. If I'm the only guy who is going to say something then so be it. ... Willie's not like that. Willie goes out and says his piece, then he leaves. Some guys don't like to get in a guy's face. Some guys do."----------Sounds like Willie's Alot like Joe Torre.........not Bobby Cox....!!

6 years ago  ::  Oct 01, 2007 - 9:57AM #82
MyYESNetwork
Posts: 0
as i said earlier , no manager could have saved the mets over the last 2 weeks of the season
6 years ago  ::  Oct 01, 2007 - 12:20PM #83
JeterForeverFan
Posts: 471
I think Cashman did something that Omar didn't do at the trade deadline....make little changes that made a big difference. I don't really follow the Mets since I try to ignore the Mets fans, but it seemed that their pitching had fallen apart and the weaknesses in their bullpen started to show and take a toll on the team. Sound familiar? What was our problem? The bullpen. Getting rid of Proctor and replacing him with Joba, plus the comeback of Hughes and bringing up Kennedy really made a difference on the team. Also, the bench....bringing in Molina was HUGE and plucking Shelly from AAA gave us an option off the bench. Cairo was a good utility player but couldn't hit for the life of him.

Don't know what Omar did right before the trade deadline, but apparently it didn't work. Not to mention that Wagner had a meltdown for some reason, probably due to over-use.

The only thing I blame Willie for is motivation and attitude of the players. It's been said that the Mets were complacent and figured they had the championship in the bag. The Yankees would never think like that. Willie should have know better since his mentor was Joe Torrre.
6 years ago  ::  Oct 01, 2007 - 12:32PM #84
MyYESNetwork
Posts: 0

I think people are forgetting where the Mets were just 2 years ago. This year's collapse notwithstanding, the Mets have built a perennial contender in record time, and they'd be foolish to make wholesale changes right now. I hope they are so foolish, and I would laugh as they sunk back to obscurity, but that is besides the point... lol.


As ugly as this was for them, the Mets have to recognize that their team has gone through a transformation for the better under Omar, and Willie has been a great fit. He was NL Manager of the Year last year, and now 1 year later he's horrible? I can't buy that. He deserves a share of the blame along with everyone else, but at the end of the day this is a team that came out of nowhere last year and should be considered to be still on the rise.


But again... I hope they are foolish and decide to take a few steps back ;)

6 years ago  ::  Oct 01, 2007 - 4:32PM #85
CoachGregg
Posts: 14
Burgos? Sosa? Mota? If Minaya wasn't trying to put a WBC team together they might have done better. Alou? Chavez? You get what you trade for.smile
6 years ago  ::  Oct 01, 2007 - 6:03PM #86
MyYESNetwork
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Willie will be fired because the Mutts fire all their good managers
6 years ago  ::  Oct 01, 2007 - 7:46PM #87
MyYESNetwork
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Poor Willie! He does'nt deserve to be a part of that team. He's a class act, i hope they do fire him and he comes back to the Yankees.
6 years ago  ::  Oct 01, 2007 - 8:49PM #88
MyYESNetwork
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the only thing i can remember omar doing before the trade deadline was trading for conine , i knew that was a terrble trade
6 years ago  ::  Oct 01, 2007 - 8:52PM #89
MyYESNetwork
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not to mention his moves made the mets older not younger
6 years ago  ::  Oct 01, 2007 - 8:54PM #90
JeterForeverFan
Posts: 471

I'll be the first one to admit that I didn't think that Cashman did enough to help the team at the trade deadline. But I didn't know that he had Joba in the wings. I never really thought that our offense was bad. I felt that all the hitters were trying to hard to hit the long ball to keep us in the game since the pitching was so poor. Once the pitching stabilized, the hitters became themselves again. Think about Damon for one...he ended up with a .270 this year. Granted not his best year but considering the fact that he was down under .250, I think he ended up well. And Abreu...lord knows his average was under .230 at one point. I never thought he'd end up with 100 RBIs.


Omar ignored the bullpen and Wagner imploded. Again, it's the pitching, stupid.

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