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3 years ago  ::  Dec 19, 2009 - 2:11PM #111
RichGossageHOF
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Dec 19, 2009 -- 12:28AM, ratman wrote:


Dec 17, 2009 -- 11:17PM, RichGossageHOF wrote:


Dec 17, 2009 -- 11:08PM, ratman wrote:


listen i am a big fan of posada and all but when it came to protecting arod , noone did it better than  matsui . plain and simple




ok, rat...but trust me. A-rod is going to get his numbers....teams are not going to start mass walking him now because Matsui isn't hitting behind him. Posada will slide into the #5 spot and do just fine.




did you forget all the walks  to arod when cano was hitting behind him?!?!  heck i saw arod get walked more than once in a game with men on  just so they could face cano . 




i don't know what to tell you, rat....Cano isn't going to be hitting behind A-Rod...Posada is...and Posada is a 25 HR, 80-90 RBI guy who hits .280ish...teams are not going to be giving A-Rod the barry bonds treatment to pitch to posada.


trust me, rat...it will be fine...even when Matsui was here and healthy he was still giving a chunck of the ABs out of the 5 hole to posada anyway.

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3 years ago  ::  Dec 19, 2009 - 2:19PM #112
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Dec 19, 2009 -- 2:11PM, RichGossageHOF wrote:


Dec 19, 2009 -- 12:28AM, ratman wrote:


Dec 17, 2009 -- 11:17PM, RichGossageHOF wrote:


Dec 17, 2009 -- 11:08PM, ratman wrote:


listen i am a big fan of posada and all but when it came to protecting arod , noone did it better than  matsui . plain and simple




ok, rat...but trust me. A-rod is going to get his numbers....teams are not going to start mass walking him now because Matsui isn't hitting behind him. Posada will slide into the #5 spot and do just fine.




did you forget all the walks  to arod when cano was hitting behind him?!?!  heck i saw arod get walked more than once in a game with men on  just so they could face cano . 




i don't know what to tell you, rat....Cano isn't going to be hitting behind A-Rod...Posada is...and Posada is a 25 HR, 80-90 RBI guy who hits .280ish...teams are not going to be giving A-Rod the barry bonds treatment to pitch to posada.


trust me, rat...it will be fine...even when Matsui was here and healthy he was still giving a chunck of the ABs out of the 5 hole to posada anyway.




 


actually you are wrong ,  once cano was taken out of the 5th spot , matsui was put there and that was back in july . heck matsui was the 5th hitter throughout the playoffs with the exception of the 3 games in philly

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3 years ago  ::  Dec 19, 2009 - 2:25PM #113
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Dec 19, 2009 -- 2:19PM, ratman wrote:


Dec 19, 2009 -- 2:11PM, RichGossageHOF wrote:


Dec 19, 2009 -- 12:28AM, ratman wrote:


Dec 17, 2009 -- 11:17PM, RichGossageHOF wrote:


Dec 17, 2009 -- 11:08PM, ratman wrote:


listen i am a big fan of posada and all but when it came to protecting arod , noone did it better than  matsui . plain and simple




ok, rat...but trust me. A-rod is going to get his numbers....teams are not going to start mass walking him now because Matsui isn't hitting behind him. Posada will slide into the #5 spot and do just fine.




did you forget all the walks  to arod when cano was hitting behind him?!?!  heck i saw arod get walked more than once in a game with men on  just so they could face cano . 




i don't know what to tell you, rat....Cano isn't going to be hitting behind A-Rod...Posada is...and Posada is a 25 HR, 80-90 RBI guy who hits .280ish...teams are not going to be giving A-Rod the barry bonds treatment to pitch to posada.


trust me, rat...it will be fine...even when Matsui was here and healthy he was still giving a chunck of the ABs out of the 5 hole to posada anyway.




 


actually you are wrong ,  once cano was taken out of the 5th spot , matsui was put there and that was back in july . heck matsui was the 5th hitter throughout the playoffs with the exception of the 3 games in philly




what do you mean i'm wrong?


i wasn't talking about just this season, rat. I'm talking about the whole time A-Rod has been here. While Matsui has been the main guy hitting behind A-Rod, Posada has still got a solid amount of games in the 5 spot during A-Rods time in the bronx. Thats not wrong.

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3 years ago  ::  Dec 19, 2009 - 2:28PM #114
ratman
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Dec 19, 2009 -- 2:25PM, RichGossageHOF wrote:


Dec 19, 2009 -- 2:19PM, ratman wrote:


Dec 19, 2009 -- 2:11PM, RichGossageHOF wrote:


Dec 19, 2009 -- 12:28AM, ratman wrote:


Dec 17, 2009 -- 11:17PM, RichGossageHOF wrote:


Dec 17, 2009 -- 11:08PM, ratman wrote:


listen i am a big fan of posada and all but when it came to protecting arod , noone did it better than  matsui . plain and simple




ok, rat...but trust me. A-rod is going to get his numbers....teams are not going to start mass walking him now because Matsui isn't hitting behind him. Posada will slide into the #5 spot and do just fine.




did you forget all the walks  to arod when cano was hitting behind him?!?!  heck i saw arod get walked more than once in a game with men on  just so they could face cano . 




i don't know what to tell you, rat....Cano isn't going to be hitting behind A-Rod...Posada is...and Posada is a 25 HR, 80-90 RBI guy who hits .280ish...teams are not going to be giving A-Rod the barry bonds treatment to pitch to posada.


trust me, rat...it will be fine...even when Matsui was here and healthy he was still giving a chunck of the ABs out of the 5 hole to posada anyway.




 


actually you are wrong ,  once cano was taken out of the 5th spot , matsui was put there and that was back in july . heck matsui was the 5th hitter throughout the playoffs with the exception of the 3 games in philly




what do you mean i'm wrong?


i wasn't talking about just this season, rat. I'm talking about the whole time A-Rod has been here. While Matsui has been the main guy hitting behind A-Rod, Posada has still got a solid amount of games in the 5 spot during A-Rods time in the bronx. Thats not wrong.




actually in 2008 niether posada or matsui hit behind arod .   and i was talking about this last year alone .   remember arod didnt become clutch until this year with matsui hitting behind him

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3 years ago  ::  Dec 19, 2009 - 2:42PM #115
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Dec 17, 2009 -- 7:25PM, RichGossageHOF wrote:


We always hear...Younger/Cheaper/Flexibility


younger: check


cheaper: check


flexibility: no check


2 of 3.





Felxibility comes in 2011 when Posada can DH more than half the time, hopefully Montero is DHing the rest of the time.


Also without Damon for 2 years the Yankees can pursue Crawford.

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3 years ago  ::  Dec 19, 2009 - 2:42PM #116
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Dec 19, 2009 -- 2:28PM, ratman wrote:


actually in 2008 niether posada or matsui hit behind arod .   and i was talking about this last year alone .   remember arod didnt become clutch until this year with matsui hitting behind him




rat i don't really feel like going back and forth with you on this because to put it simply...matsui isn't here anymore and i have grown tired of talking about him.


but i will say that some of A-Rod's clutchest hits THIS season came when Matsui wasn't batting behind him....thats not to say all of them were...but some of the biggest cam with matsui not protecting him. ex. HR off Hamels...HR off Funtes...Double off Lidge.So to insinuate A-Rod needs Matsui batting behind him to be clutch is false.


and like i said...Matsui has been the main guy behind A-Rod....such as in 2007 when he got nearly 80 games hitting in the 5 hole. if you remember...2007 was A-Rod best year. but even in that season Posada still got a health 49 games hitting behind him.

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