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Nov 26, 2010 -- 12:03PM, Demetrios wrote:

Nov 26, 2010 -- 11:55AM, DrStrangeglove wrote:

Nov 26, 2010 -- 11:53AM, laurenfrances wrote:

I like to know where talking heads are getting their information.  It's seems every few days a new revelation crops up to be proven false a few days later.  As reporters scramble to get the first jump for a leading story, I wonder if they apply due diligence in checking it's accuracy prior to writing it.  It seem ridiculous as story after story is contradictory in manner.   After a while we'll just value these "revelations" in the same degree as good old fashion.....gossip.

And they wonder why we guffaw at the notion they call themselves ''journalist''....they have bigger ego's than any ballplayer could ever wish for on any level

I guess if there has to be a bad guy in this let it be the journalists.  I'd rather they be cast as the villian than Jeter or the Yankees.

 

 

But the reality s we all know who the Greedy one is in these negotiations.i

Greedy?  some call it fair maret value.....thats why these knuckleheads announce their salaries and length of contract....Personally I have no issue with a guy making money,  but I do have an issue if it hurts the team...The Yanks can always so no..and be done with it...

Nov 26, 2010 -- 11:57AM, newinn wrote:

Nov 26, 2010 -- 11:53AM, AceMitchell wrote:

Nov 26, 2010 -- 11:16AM, newinn wrote:

Nov 26, 2010 -- 11:09AM, AceMitchell wrote:

Nov 26, 2010 -- 10:42AM, newinn wrote:

Ace, respectfully, that last person to be announced at old timers games was strictly coming from Di Maggio. He insisted on it. Yanks didn't promote it nor do i think they really cared if he was announced last. Di Maggio insited on that and always being introduced as the greatest living ballplayer in order to preserve HIS image so he could better capitalize on it. The marketing done for Jeter in the past 10 years and being done while he is still active, will do far more to preserve Jeters earning power after he retires then the Yankees. Jeter's greatest value to the Yankees now remains his ability to help them win. It's far more important then any merchandising oportunities. if the Yankees stop winning most of that other stuff gets cut way down along with attendence. Look at what has happened to the Met attendence since they became laughing stocks again.

Oh yes winning is more important than any merchandising opportunity what I'm saying is if Jeter is "just another ball player" than that's fine because that's how they view him but you can't say that and then turn around and capitalize on him and his image every chance you get. When he gets his 3,000 hit how long before the Yankees and Steiner have the dirt, grass, Jeter's bat, basepads, used tickets from the game, and other merchandise on sale at ridiculous prices.

And in regards to being the last person introduced yes Joe D asked to be introduced last but you don't think the aura of Jeter is going to only get bigger as time passes by. He is going to be the greatest living Yankee because those that came before him unfortunately will have passed on by then.

Jeter will undoubtedly be a legend and will be considered the greatest living Yankee but my point is once he retires that is far far far away more beneficial and profitable to him then it will be to the Yankees and I would bet that the marketing the Yankees do now that solely uses Jeters image is and will continue to be more profitable to Jeter also. If the Yanks keep winning and use Mo the face of the franchise, I would bet they lose very little financially. Winning remains the real face of the Yankee franchise

True winning remains the real face of the Yankees and it is beneficial for Jeter to be linked to the Yankee organization. They have done alot for him and no one would argue that but Jeter is a bigger media personality than Mo. He is the one current Yankee that transcends baseball.

 

I just hope this comes to an end soon.

It's getting more messy then I thought it would and I anticipated it to be very messy as far back as 3 years ago

Well then you Newinn you are a prophet I thought this thing would be handled behind closed doors. I gotta stop listening to Francesa lol

Nov 26, 2010 -- 12:04PM, DrStrangeglove wrote:

Nov 26, 2010 -- 12:00PM, Walton wrote:

Nov 26, 2010 -- 9:13AM, Cleese wrote:

Derek Jeter’s representatives are asking for at least $80MM more than the Yankees are willing to offer in negotiations for the free agent shortstop, according to Bill Madden of the New York Daily News. The starting point for Jeter and agent Casey Close was six years and $150MM, according to Madden, who reports that the Jeter camp is not budging from demands for a $25MM annual salary. Alex Rodriguez’s contract “is at the cruz of Jeter’s and Close’s stance,” according to Madden.

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                                                         I believe Madden's numbers. It doesn't surprise me at all. Players always believe owners are making boatloads of money off them. They always believe each owner is becoming a billionaire because they caught a foul ball or got a walk in the ninth inning. Of course it goes the other way also. The owners always believe they've made each player fabulously wealthy and if the player weren't playing for them they'd be selling upholstery in Binghamton, New York.

                                                          I think all athletes are in for a rude awakening. I think the salad days where good players with the POTENTIAL to become superstars were handed 18 mil and 20 mil a year contracts on that potentiality are OVER. I know in the NBA the commissioner is talking about some drastic changes. David Stern is talking about virtually cutting the overall payroll for players in half and actually cutting some teams. I know football is talking about a work stoppage. I believe I read the other day where the head of the players union in football said there was a 98% chance of a work stoppage. America and the world is becoming a more "pragmatic" place. The days of simply handing people money {unless someone is in a perfect situation like a Cliff Lee} are over. Five or six years ago Derek Jeter {like Arod} probably would have "got what he wanted." Not anymore.

                                                        

I have yet to believe anything thus far...there has yet to be any sort of substantion on any level....but its fun to read

Exactly.   I don't believe half the figures I've seen bantied about so far this offseason in the media.   Those figures for Lee last week were bogus too.   I do believe Jeter is looking for a  more than 15 per year, (although at his age I think that's a very fair offer coming off the year he had).   From Jeter's perspective,  that's a paycut.  Nobody would want a paycut.   I know I wouldn't.   I still think he'll get 3 years 18-20 mil plus a possible option year.  After that he'll probably sign some sort of personal services contract with them. 

Nov 26, 2010 -- 1:00PM, DrStrangeglove wrote:

What do you guys mean when you say ''personal services contract''...?

He'll be the main front man of the organization when his career is over. Grand opening at a Yankee owed store Jeter will be there to cut the ribbon. Special events held at the stadium and there goes number 2 smiling, shaking hands, and taking pictures.