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3 years ago  ::  Feb 14, 2011 - 12:07AM #1
qwik3457
Posts: 6,220

...but it makes sense for both teams.

The Cards can't sign Pujols; too expensive for too many years. They need a top quality first baseman to replace him, one they can afford, one who can anchor their lineup, one that isn't signed until he's 41.

So the Yanks should trade Teixiera for Pujols. Right now. They're virtually the same age, and Tex is at least 90% of the player Pujols is. The Yanks might have to throw in a solid prospect, just to help the Cards save face, but it might not be neccessary.
 
What do the Cards gain? They get a very good player only until he 36 at a salary they can handle, without having to pay for Pujols $30 million a year until he's 40, and they don't have to worry about losing Pujols for two draft picks who almost certainly won't come close to replacing his value, a value they also can't come close to replacing at anything like Pujols' current salary. 

What do the Yanks gain? They get an even better hitter than Tex for this year, and a defensive first baseman just as good. (Pujols is also a multiple Gold Glove winner, and he rates better in the defensive metrics than Tex; or at least he has the past few years.)  

Then, at the end of the season, they can decided whether or not to give Pujols $30 million a year, and for how long, or let him go, get a #1 pick and a supplemental #1 in compensation, and move Montero to 1st base. They get some of the psychological edge back from the Red Sox. And if Pujols leaves, they move Montero to 1st, and spend Tex's $22 million a year on an ace pitcher. Or Hanley Ramirez. Or something. If they re-sign Pujols, then plan A continues: the Yanks try to slot Montero in at catcher.

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Why would it never, ever happen?

Teix's full no-trade clause. If the Yanks are to do this, they must act quickly and quietly, and if they have to stop and get Tex's permission, it'll crush the deal. If the deal folds, having asked Tex to waive the no-trade will cheese him off royally, and he and the Yanks will still be stuck with each other for the next six seasons. 

Pujols has a limited no-trade as well, but I think he'd agree to come to the Yanks for 1) an even better chance to win it all, 2) the cache of playing for the Yankees for one season, 3) showcasing himself for the Yanks to drive his market next off-season and 4) trying the New York market on for size, just in case he likes it.

If he doesn't, it hardly matters, he can leave in November. 

Well, OK, I've made the prosposal. Bring on the abuse and derision. 

==================================================

Ahhh...even if Tex and Pujols agreed, the Cards would probably scotch the deal by asking for Yogi Berra as a throw-in.

Knowledge is Good -- Emil Faber
3 years ago  ::  Feb 14, 2011 - 5:02AM #2
Stratocaster
Posts: 6,408
LOL... I'll need more coffee to get my head wrapped around this one quik.  I like the part about moving quickly and quietly though.  I got a mental image of Cashman crating Tex up while he sleeps and shipping him off to ST. Louis, where he plays a month of the season before he realizes what happened.  Ooops!  Too late now Mark!  LOL...  Good stuff though ;)

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3 years ago  ::  Feb 14, 2011 - 8:12AM #3
yankeeoldfan
Posts: 6,934

Your right, It will never happen...

3 years ago  ::  Feb 14, 2011 - 9:05AM #4
bomberhojoe
Posts: 9,105

Qwik, Pujols is a Great talent, the best hitter in baseball.  And while he is a good fielder, he is not as good as Tex no matter what the metrix say.  All that being said, you were right ... it will never happen.

John 3:16 * Ephesians 2:8-9 * Romans 10:9-10 * John 14:3-6 * Romans 5:8
3 years ago  ::  Feb 14, 2011 - 9:53AM #5
newinn
Posts: 18,119

Feb 14, 2011 -- 12:07AM, qwik3457 wrote:


...but it makes sense for both teams.

The Cards can't sign Pujols; too expensive for too many years. They need a top quality first baseman to replace him, one they can afford, one who can anchor their lineup, one that isn't signed until he's 41.

So the Yanks should trade Teixiera for Pujols. Right now. They're virtually the same age, and Tex is at least 90% of the player Pujols is. The Yanks might have to throw in a solid prospect, just to help the Cards save face, but it might not be neccessary.
 
What do the Cards gain? They get a very good player only until he 36 at a salary they can handle, without having to pay for Pujols $30 million a year until he's 40, and they don't have to worry about losing Pujols for two draft picks who almost certainly won't come close to replacing his value, a value they also can't come close to replacing at anything like Pujols' current salary. 

What do the Yanks gain? They get an even better hitter than Tex for this year, and a defensive first baseman just as good. (Pujols is also a multiple Gold Glove winner, and he rates better in the defensive metrics than Tex; or at least he has the past few years.)  

Then, at the end of the season, they can decided whether or not to give Pujols $30 million a year, and for how long, or let him go, get a #1 pick and a supplemental #1 in compensation, and move Montero to 1st base. They get some of the psychological edge back from the Red Sox. And if Pujols leaves, they move Montero to 1st, and spend Tex's $22 million a year on an ace pitcher. Or Hanley Ramirez. Or something. If they re-sign Pujols, then plan A continues: the Yanks try to slot Montero in at catcher.

=====================================
Why would it never, ever happen?

Teix's full no-trade clause. If the Yanks are to do this, they must act quickly and quietly, and if they have to stop and get Tex's permission, it'll crush the deal. If the deal folds, having asked Tex to waive the no-trade will cheese him off royally, and he and the Yanks will still be stuck with each other for the next six seasons. 

Pujols has a limited no-trade as well, but I think he'd agree to come to the Yanks for 1) an even better chance to win it all, 2) the cache of playing for the Yankees for one season, 3) showcasing himself for the Yanks to drive his market next off-season and 4) trying the New York market on for size, just in case he likes it.

If he doesn't, it hardly matters, he can leave in November. 

Well, OK, I've made the prosposal. Bring on the abuse and derision. 

==================================================

Ahhh...even if Tex and Pujols agreed, the Cards would probably scotch the deal by asking for Yogi Berra as a throw-in.





While I agree it will never happen, I wish it would. It would be a brilliant move by the Yankees as well as the Cardinals

3 years ago  ::  Feb 14, 2011 - 9:59AM #6
laurenfrances
Posts: 18,785

Feb 14, 2011 -- 12:07AM, qwik3457 wrote:


...but it makes sense for both teams.

The Cards can't sign Pujols; too expensive for too many years. They need a top quality first baseman to replace him, one they can afford, one who can anchor their lineup, one that isn't signed until he's 41.

So the Yanks should trade Teixiera for Pujols. Right now. They're virtually the same age, and Tex is at least 90% of the player Pujols is. The Yanks might have to throw in a solid prospect, just to help the Cards save face, but it might not be neccessary.
 
What do the Cards gain? They get a very good player only until he 36 at a salary they can handle, without having to pay for Pujols $30 million a year until he's 40, and they don't have to worry about losing Pujols for two draft picks who almost certainly won't come close to replacing his value, a value they also can't come close to replacing at anything like Pujols' current salary. 

What do the Yanks gain? They get an even better hitter than Tex for this year, and a defensive first baseman just as good. (Pujols is also a multiple Gold Glove winner, and he rates better in the defensive metrics than Tex; or at least he has the past few years.)  

Then, at the end of the season, they can decided whether or not to give Pujols $30 million a year, and for how long, or let him go, get a #1 pick and a supplemental #1 in compensation, and move Montero to 1st base. They get some of the psychological edge back from the Red Sox. And if Pujols leaves, they move Montero to 1st, and spend Tex's $22 million a year on an ace pitcher. Or Hanley Ramirez. Or something. If they re-sign Pujols, then plan A continues: the Yanks try to slot Montero in at catcher.

=====================================
Why would it never, ever happen?

Teix's full no-trade clause. If the Yanks are to do this, they must act quickly and quietly, and if they have to stop and get Tex's permission, it'll crush the deal. If the deal folds, having asked Tex to waive the no-trade will cheese him off royally, and he and the Yanks will still be stuck with each other for the next six seasons. 

Pujols has a limited no-trade as well, but I think he'd agree to come to the Yanks for 1) an even better chance to win it all, 2) the cache of playing for the Yankees for one season, 3) showcasing himself for the Yanks to drive his market next off-season and 4) trying the New York market on for size, just in case he likes it.

If he doesn't, it hardly matters, he can leave in November. 

Well, OK, I've made the prosposal. Bring on the abuse and derision. 

==================================================

Ahhh...even if Tex and Pujols agreed, the Cards would probably scotch the deal by asking for Yogi Berra as a throw-in.




Wow..a well thoughout post.  A win-win for both teams, as you say....it won't happen.

Always proud to be a Yankee fan.

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3 years ago  ::  Feb 14, 2011 - 12:23PM #7
GottaGoToMo
Posts: 38,077

Feb 14, 2011 -- 12:07AM, qwik3457 wrote:


...but it makes sense for both teams.

The Cards can't sign Pujols; too expensive for too many years. They need a top quality first baseman to replace him, one they can afford, one who can anchor their lineup, one that isn't signed until he's 41.

So the Yanks should trade Teixiera for Pujols. Right now. They're virtually the same age, and Tex is at least 90% of the player Pujols is. The Yanks might have to throw in a solid prospect, just to help the Cards save face, but it might not be neccessary.
 
What do the Cards gain? They get a very good player only until he 36 at a salary they can handle, without having to pay for Pujols $30 million a year until he's 40, and they don't have to worry about losing Pujols for two draft picks who almost certainly won't come close to replacing his value, a value they also can't come close to replacing at anything like Pujols' current salary. 

What do the Yanks gain? They get an even better hitter than Tex for this year, and a defensive first baseman just as good. (Pujols is also a multiple Gold Glove winner, and he rates better in the defensive metrics than Tex; or at least he has the past few years.)  

Then, at the end of the season, they can decided whether or not to give Pujols $30 million a year, and for how long, or let him go, get a #1 pick and a supplemental #1 in compensation, and move Montero to 1st base. They get some of the psychological edge back from the Red Sox. And if Pujols leaves, they move Montero to 1st, and spend Tex's $22 million a year on an ace pitcher. Or Hanley Ramirez. Or something. If they re-sign Pujols, then plan A continues: the Yanks try to slot Montero in at catcher.

=====================================
Why would it never, ever happen?

Teix's full no-trade clause. If the Yanks are to do this, they must act quickly and quietly, and if they have to stop and get Tex's permission, it'll crush the deal. If the deal folds, having asked Tex to waive the no-trade will cheese him off royally, and he and the Yanks will still be stuck with each other for the next six seasons. 

Pujols has a limited no-trade as well, but I think he'd agree to come to the Yanks for 1) an even better chance to win it all, 2) the cache of playing for the Yankees for one season, 3) showcasing himself for the Yanks to drive his market next off-season and 4) trying the New York market on for size, just in case he likes it.

If he doesn't, it hardly matters, he can leave in November. 

Well, OK, I've made the prosposal. Bring on the abuse and derision. 

==================================================

Ahhh...even if Tex and Pujols agreed, the Cards would probably scotch the deal by asking for Yogi Berra as a throw-in.





Question ... Montero any good at first base?  or are we back on our way to the Giambi days with inadequate first base defense!


It's a very interesting idea though ... but as you say, it will never happen ... but you definitely get an A+ for innovational thinking!

mariano42



"Without the Lord, I cannot do it."  Mariano Rivera - 9/22/13

3 years ago  ::  Feb 14, 2011 - 12:32PM #8
DC_Chillin
Posts: 668

You kidding Mo!?!? Giambi was a stud at 1B! I'd kill for that awkward throwing motion he had. What a sweaty beast!

3 years ago  ::  Feb 14, 2011 - 12:47PM #9
GottaGoToMo
Posts: 38,077

Feb 14, 2011 -- 12:32PM, DC_Chillin wrote:


You kidding Mo!?!? Giambi was a stud at 1B! I'd kill for that awkward throwing motion he had. What a sweaty beast!





Can't tell if you are joking ... but I'm not kidding ... the only thing Giambi ever did well was pick the ball out of the dirt, but it needed to be close to the bag for him to be able to do it ... I'm not ... I repeat ... NOT ... going backwards to bad defense at first base!

mariano42



"Without the Lord, I cannot do it."  Mariano Rivera - 9/22/13

3 years ago  ::  Feb 14, 2011 - 12:49PM #10
DC_Chillin
Posts: 668

Feb 14, 2011 -- 12:47PM, GottaGoToMo wrote:


Feb 14, 2011 -- 12:32PM, DC_Chillin wrote:


You kidding Mo!?!? Giambi was a stud at 1B! I'd kill for that awkward throwing motion he had. What a sweaty beast!





Can't tell if you are joking ... but I'm not kidding ... the only thing Giambi ever did well was pick the ball out of the dirt, but it needed to be close to the bag for him to be able to do it ... I'm not ... I repeat ... NOT ... going backwards to bad defense at first base!





Clearly joking Tongue out

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