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Dec 14, 2011 -- 9:15PM, Lola wrote:

Dec 12, 2011 -- 9:20PM, RobbieCano wrote:

Dec 12, 2011 -- 12:46PM, JonahFalcon wrote:

If Joba Chamberlain can be effective again, the Yanks have a pen of Rivera, Robertson, Soriano and Chamberlain.

Joba hasn't beem effective since 2008.  But maybe a year off gave him a chance to clear his head and focus on becoming what he once was.

Don't count on that happening... I'd trade him to the Red Sox, he can sit in their bp and swill beer.

Or he can go there and do well.

Dec 15, 2011 -- 10:59AM, yankeeoldfan wrote:

Dec 15, 2011 -- 9:33AM, AceMitchell wrote:

Dec 14, 2011 -- 11:14AM, yankeeoldfan wrote:

Dec 14, 2011 -- 9:17AM, NYYGuy wrote:

If Joba shows anything when he gets back he won't go to the pen. That ship (thankfully) has sailed.

I expect Joba to stay in Scranton Wilkes-Barre in 2012 and added to the rotation in 2013.

 

I think the Yankees still think of Job as a BP kind of pitcher.. He doesn't seem to be able to keep his game together for more then four or five innings and that's not good for starters..

Not enough of a sample size to come to that conclusion.

He's only been pitching that way since he came from Neb. How much sample size do you need ??  Even in long relieve he can't get by the third inning with out losing his control.. He also doesn't trust his catcher or the bench to call his pitches, he continually shakes off pitches, if he's ever going to succeed he needs to trust his stuff and the calls off the bench..

You said "He doesn't seem to be able to keep his game together for more then four or five innings and that's not good for starters.." He only started for a yr and a half compare that to a guy like Hughes who has been given every chance to start and will get another one in Feb. I'm not going to look at Joba's 43 career starts and say he can't be a starter. He won't be one for this team though. But it's alright I guess they really need to cover that 5th/6th inning spot(not a snipe at you but at the Yankee brain trust)

Dec 15, 2011 -- 11:53AM, RobS44 wrote:

Dec 15, 2011 -- 11:11AM, AceMitchell wrote:

Dec 15, 2011 -- 10:59AM, yankeeoldfan wrote:

Dec 15, 2011 -- 9:33AM, AceMitchell wrote:

Dec 14, 2011 -- 11:14AM, yankeeoldfan wrote:

Dec 14, 2011 -- 9:17AM, NYYGuy wrote:

If Joba shows anything when he gets back he won't go to the pen. That ship (thankfully) has sailed.

I expect Joba to stay in Scranton Wilkes-Barre in 2012 and added to the rotation in 2013.

 

I think the Yankees still think of Job as a BP kind of pitcher.. He doesn't seem to be able to keep his game together for more then four or five innings and that's not good for starters..

Not enough of a sample size to come to that conclusion.

He's only been pitching that way since he came from Neb. How much sample size do you need ??  Even in long relieve he can't get by the third inning with out losing his control.. He also doesn't trust his catcher or the bench to call his pitches, he continually shakes off pitches, if he's ever going to succeed he needs to trust his stuff and the calls off the bench..

You said "He doesn't seem to be able to keep his game together for more then four or five innings and that's not good for starters.." He only started for a yr and a half compare that to a guy like Hughes who has been given every chance to start and will get another one in Feb. I'm not going to look at Joba's 43 career starts and say he can't be a starter. He won't be one for this team though. But it's alright I guess they really need to cover that 5th/6th inning spot(not a snipe at you but at the Yankee brain trust)

Speaking of Hughes, his success, or lack thereof, as a starter may well impact what they do with Joba, especially since they will have about 3 months to evalaute Hughes as a starter.   Given that the Yanks already have a dynamite and overloaded pen, what they need is stasrters.  If ism reasonably successful as a starter, then Joba is probably destined for the bull pen.  But if Hughes enters June with, say a 3-5 record and a 5+ ERA, they may well move him to the pen and to try and stretch Joba out to start.

Sounds like a good idea but the Yankees don't want to go through the stress of stretching him out again. When he went down with TJS they could have said kid, we need starters....we would like you to rehab as one...take the time you need. But no they didn't do that in their mind he is better suited to be the Noesi of last yr. If Hughes doesn't perform well Colon(if he is brought back) will get a shot along with the kids on the farm.

Even if he doesn't show the electric stuff there is nothing to lose by having him start. It's not going to happen because they are dead set against it but what happens if he starts and fails he ends up in the pen anyway. Someone might say well his value takes a hit lol how much farther can his value drop....the kid is a middle reliever. He's not pitching the 8th or even 7th inning for that matter. In an over stacked bullpen is Joba really needed? The answer is no.

The better question is will Joba eventually end up on another team