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Hal may have to choose between Grandersen and Cano to lower payroll
1 year ago  ::  Mar 10, 2012 - 10:43AM #1
CaptainJeter
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Curtis Granderson shows power and good glove in center but he’s no Robinson Cano in terms of value to Yankees and that’s where line may be drawn. Corey Sipkin/News




TAMPA — You ask Curtis Granderson about whether he feels the pressure to follow up his 40-home run season, and his reply is both revealing and consistent with his just-let-me-blend-in personality.


“I just want to do my business and help us win,” he said. “If there’s one guy, I’m looking at (Robinson) Cano. He’s been the guy.”


Granderson wasn’t talking home runs so much as singling out Cano as the best hitter in the Yankee lineup. And while he’s right about that, it was Granderson who had the gaudier numbers last season and finished higher in the MVP voting — fourth as opposed to sixth.


The real intrigue is that, since Hal Steinbrenner went public last week with his desire to get the Yankee payroll under $189 million by 2014 to avoid stiffer luxury-tax penalties, it’s possible the Yankees will have to choose between Granderson and Cano to get to that number.


If they had to make that choice now, it would have to be Cano. He has become one of the Yankees’ most feared hitters, as evidenced by the way Jim Leyland pitched around him at every opportunity in the playoffs last season, and his outstanding play at second base adds significantly to his value.




Could that change by the end of the 2013 season, when each can become a free agent?


Perhaps only if Granderson took still another leap forward in home run power, but since he’ll turn 31 in a week, that seems unlikely. “I know it’s fun talking about it,” Granderson said, “but people are throwing the number 50 out there — and I say, ‘Let's be realistic.’ ”


Granderson shrugged when asked about the potential decision the Yankees could face, and said, “It’s not something I can control, so I don’t worry about it.”


Keeping both Granderson and Cano and staying under $189 million aren’t out of the question, but chances are it can only happen if the young pitching the Yankees are banking on forms the nucleus of the starting rotation by 2014.


Of Michael Pineda, Ivan Nova and their two top pitching prospects, Manny Banuelos and Dellin Betances, at least three of them would have to be staples, and perhaps all four, depending where Phil Hughes stands by then.


In that case, the Yankees might not need to spend big in the free agent market for starting pitchers, the most expensive commodity in baseball.


That’s a key because the Yankees are committed to $78.5 million already in 2014 for Alex Rodriguez (25), CC Sabathia (23), Mark Teixeira (22.5), and Derek Jeter ($8 million player option). Figure that Cano will cost at least $20 million a year, and that takes the Yankees to $100 million for five players





They would have $89 million for the other 20 on the roster, including an entire outfield, four starting pitchers, an entire bullpen, a DH and a bench.


Would keeping Granderson at $15 million a year be feasible?


One factor would be whether the Yankees sign Russell Martin to a long-term deal for at least $10 million a year, or turn the catching over next year to prospect Austin Romine.


Then it’s about pitching. If the young arms don’t deliver and the Yankees sign a Cole Hamels or Matt Cain for $20 million or more a year, then Granderson almost surely would be the odd man out.


By then it’s also possible that Mason Williams, the highly regarded center field prospect, might have convinced the Yankees he’s ready to inherit the job.


If Granderson continues to put up 40-home run seasons, however, he would make it awfully difficult not to find a way to re-sign him. As it is, he’s in rarefied air, having joined Joe DiMaggio and Mickey Mantle as Yankee center fielders with 40-plus home run seasons.


He also fits nicely into the post-George Steinbrenner era, a star who is more earnest than outspoken. Indeed, compared to the likes of DiMaggio or Mantle, it’s hard to imagine that a slugging Yankee center fielder could carry a lower profile.


Maybe it’s because he doesn’t show up places in limos with entourages, but Granderson says he’s rarely even recognized in Manhattan, where he lives.


“Maybe it's because I’m not as big as people might expect,” he said with a laugh. “When fans do recognize me they always say, ‘You look bigger on TV.’


“But I walk around town all the time. I walk right past people wearing Yankee caps and Yankee shirts, and it’s rare when anybody recognizes me. It’s OK. I don’t need any more attention.”


The longer Granderson keeps hitting home runs for the Yankees, the more likely that will change. But with payroll cuts coming, even 40 home runs a year may not assure him of a long stay in the Bronx.


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1 year ago  ::  Mar 10, 2012 - 11:01AM #2
Stratocaster
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I don't know if it comes down to a choice between Granderson and Cano.  It's possible, depending on their demands, that the Yankees could keep both.  We will have to see what their numbers are the next two seasons.  A lot can happen between now and then, so we really don't have all the information yet.  It seems to me that it will likely mean decisions on four players... Cano, Granderson, Swisher and Martin.  The Yanks will probably be able to keep some combination, but not all of those.  By this time next year we should have a better picture in terms of what their demands will be, and who the possible replacements are via trades, free agency or from the Yankee system.  Maybe a catcher emerges, or an outfielder for example, that might make someone more easily replaceable.
1 year ago  ::  Mar 10, 2012 - 11:30AM #3
Cleese
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Cano. It's not that hard of a decision.
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1 year ago  ::  Mar 10, 2012 - 11:31AM #4
GottaGoToMo
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I think this is just the media looking for something to stir up the blood of Yankee fans ... as long as both have a good and healthy season, I don't see Hal going as far with the budget as choosing between Granderson and Cano.

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1 year ago  ::  Mar 10, 2012 - 11:38AM #5
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Mar 10, 2012 -- 11:01AM, Stratocaster wrote:

I don't know if it comes down to a choice between Granderson and Cano. It's possible, depending on their demands, that the Yankees could keep both. We will have to see what their numbers are the next two seasons. A lot can happen between now and then, so we really don't have all the information yet. It seems to me that it will likely mean decisions on four players... Cano, Granderson, Swisher and Martin. The Yanks will probably be able to keep some combination, but not all of those. By this time next year we should have a better picture in terms of what their demands will be, and who the possible replacements are via trades, free agency or from the Yankee system. Maybe a catcher emerges, or an outfielder for example, that might make someone more easily replaceable.



Cano and Granderson it would be hard to replace their production. I like Martin but he can be replaced with another good defensive catcher, if he starts hitting like he used to he will want more then his 7 mill a year. He's not going to get a Molina contract or close from the Yanks with all their catching prospects.


Swisher will be the one to leave. If he has a decent year he will want more then he makes now and the Yanks wont want to commit over 10 mill a year for him with Hals budget. That's a spot they will have to get a young cheaper player.

1 year ago  ::  Mar 10, 2012 - 11:38AM #6
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Mar 10, 2012 -- 11:31AM, GottaGoToMo wrote:


I think this is just the media looking for something to stir up the blood of Yankee fans ... as long as both have a good and healthy season, I don't see Hal going as far with the budget as choosing between Granderson and Cano.




Absolutely.... Let the seaon play out and worry about this stuff when the time comes. Strat said it! A lot can happen, we'll have to wait and see what happens.

1 year ago  ::  Mar 10, 2012 - 12:28PM #7
BigGuy
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This doesn't even become an issue until after next season.   They'll have to worry about Martin and Swisher after this year.  I don't see both of them coming back.  Swisher could be the odd man out.  Martin has a better chance of staying because he'll be cheaper and they may not trust Romine.  Romine's had back issues 2 years in a row now and went backwards at the plate last year at AA.  He'll have to prove he can stay healthy this year and improve at the plate before they think of letting Martin walk.   Cano will be resigned after next year.  Granderson could be a question mark. If they feel he'll be too expensive they can always deal him for somebody younger and cheaper next year.

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1 year ago  ::  Mar 10, 2012 - 12:44PM #8
JoeGNJ
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We've got WS victories to celebrate b4 this comes up.

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1 year ago  ::  Mar 10, 2012 - 12:47PM #9
CaptainJeter
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alot can happen.If Romine continues to have back issues,  they will try to resign Martin as long as he is not too demanding.


The Yanks have  around 53 million coming off the books after this season.. I think Swisher is the odd man out no matter what he  does. They probably will either  trade for a young cheaper right fielder or if Zolio  Almonte has a good year  , he might be in right field next year.


I think Grandersen could be the odd man out. If it comes down to him or Cano, Cano wins hands down. Yanks also have to worry about Hughes, Chamberlain , Gardner and Robertson  by 2014.


It also depends alot on Ravel Santana, Slade Heathcott, Jake Cave and Mason  Williams. If any of them continue to thrive , Grandersen could be out of here after 2013.

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1 year ago  ::  Mar 10, 2012 - 12:57PM #10
jete2sandman42
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We are not the friggin Kansas City Royals or Pittsburgh Pirates. Both of these guys are too important to our lineup to be frugal. You wanna lower payroll by letting guys like Martin or Swisher, or even both walk so be it. But Cano and Granderson better retire Yankees so help me.

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