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newinn

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Mar 30, 2012 -- 2:26PM, luvdayanks wrote:

Mar 30, 2012 -- 2:17PM, newinn wrote:

Mar 30, 2012 -- 2:13PM, luvdayanks wrote:

Mar 30, 2012 -- 2:02PM, newinn wrote:

Mar 30, 2012 -- 1:46PM, luvdayanks wrote:

Mar 30, 2012 -- 1:29PM, prof. quiz wrote:

Sarcasm or not, you are being petty.

Right, posting an article, not writing it mind you, about spending millions of the taxpayers money on Obama's daughter's vacation is petty. I see! I suppose the deficit, unemployment rate, and ever growing home foreclosures among others is also petty? Typical liberal justification and that's why this country is in the state it's in.

Remember when the Reagans brought Glamour and Class back to the White House with their extravagent dinner parties and state events? All during a recession. IMO this kind of stuff is just piling on to a President that the cons don't like. No different then when Bush was being criticized for going back and forth to Texas every weekend. There is plenty legit thing for Americans to be angry over, imo this stuff aint one of them.

There was a big stink over some 200 million that was supposedly spent on a trip to Pakistan or someplace like that. The Obama's were staying in some Palace at 10 million a day or some such nonsense. Of course the story was completely bogus. Fact is they all do it and the opposition always criticizes it. For the record I thought it was petty when Christie was blasted for private use of a gov't helicopter. IMO it's all nonsense

That's one of my points, New, that I don't care what administration does it, it doesn't make it right, and less so during this economy and defecit! I know how to solve it, send every US citizen $1,000,000, it will stimulate the economy and no one would care when the POTUS and family go on vacation or how many times. Then, there's always the Queen of the airways, Nancy Pelosi.

On another note, I read you own your own business, what type business?

I own a pretty laarge dog boarding kennel with a grooming shop. I'm also a pretty good trainer if I do say so myself. State inspector told our First Selectman ( mayor) that we're the best run kennel in the state. We're very proud of that comment

Kudos!!! Excellent!!! So you're "The Dog Whisperer"?

He looks like an illegal!!!! I'm not him

luvdayanks

Posts: 10,150

Mar 30, 2012 -- 2:28PM, newinn wrote:

Mar 30, 2012 -- 2:26PM, luvdayanks wrote:

Mar 30, 2012 -- 2:17PM, newinn wrote:

Mar 30, 2012 -- 2:13PM, luvdayanks wrote:

Mar 30, 2012 -- 2:02PM, newinn wrote:

Mar 30, 2012 -- 1:46PM, luvdayanks wrote:

Mar 30, 2012 -- 1:29PM, prof. quiz wrote:

Sarcasm or not, you are being petty.

Right, posting an article, not writing it mind you, about spending millions of the taxpayers money on Obama's daughter's vacation is petty. I see! I suppose the deficit, unemployment rate, and ever growing home foreclosures among others is also petty? Typical liberal justification and that's why this country is in the state it's in.

Remember when the Reagans brought Glamour and Class back to the White House with their extravagent dinner parties and state events? All during a recession. IMO this kind of stuff is just piling on to a President that the cons don't like. No different then when Bush was being criticized for going back and forth to Texas every weekend. There is plenty legit thing for Americans to be angry over, imo this stuff aint one of them.

There was a big stink over some 200 million that was supposedly spent on a trip to Pakistan or someplace like that. The Obama's were staying in some Palace at 10 million a day or some such nonsense. Of course the story was completely bogus. Fact is they all do it and the opposition always criticizes it. For the record I thought it was petty when Christie was blasted for private use of a gov't helicopter. IMO it's all nonsense

That's one of my points, New, that I don't care what administration does it, it doesn't make it right, and less so during this economy and defecit! I know how to solve it, send every US citizen $1,000,000, it will stimulate the economy and no one would care when the POTUS and family go on vacation or how many times. Then, there's always the Queen of the airways, Nancy Pelosi.

On another note, I read you own your own business, what type business?

I own a pretty laarge dog boarding kennel with a grooming shop. I'm also a pretty good trainer if I do say so myself. State inspector told our First Selectman ( mayor) that we're the best run kennel in the state. We're very proud of that comment

Kudos!!! Excellent!!! So you're "The Dog Whisperer"?

He looks like an illegal!!!! I'm not him

The dog does look illegal, I don't see any tags on him.

MADMAX

Posts: 6,115

Mar 30, 2012 -- 2:22PM, luvdayanks wrote:

Mar 30, 2012 -- 2:12PM, MADMAX wrote:

Mar 30, 2012 -- 11:27AM, luvdayanks wrote:

Mar 30, 2012 -- 11:07AM, MADMAX wrote:

Mar 30, 2012 -- 10:20AM, luvdayanks wrote:

Want to know where Obama’s 13 year-old daughter is right now with 12 friends?

Why the Bush girls didn't go on vacation and get protection?

Why turn it into a R&D thing? IF that occured with the Bush girls, that doesn't make it right and I wouldn't condone that. The point is, there are millions of Americans scraping to make ends meet and cancelling vacations because this economy is in the sh!tter, and this "vacation" is costing millions of taxpayer dollars. That, my friend, is NOT a perk of the POTUS. If you do want to make it a R&D discussion, find out how much Bush spent on vacations and needless trips, and not flying his dog on a seperate plane compared to Obama. I'm guessing you would be shocked.

It's not an R&D thing. I asked a question is all. They are R&D POTUS kids and should grow up and have fun as normal as possible. Maybe we should just vote for childless bachelors? It's a trip to Mexico, big deal. The big cost is security and you can't put a price on that especially if a POTUS kids are at risk. If you are that worried about your tax dollars you should still be complaining and starting threads about why the Iraqi oil revenue still hasn't paid for the cost of the war like President Bush promised. Now, that kind of tax money can pay for aaaaaaaaaaa lot of vacations.

See Cleese's post right above yours and see what the real issues are. He said it better than I did. Mexico...really??? 2 airplanes and 25 SS agents???

Cleese is a nice poster as are you. But I read his post and it was as petty as yours. Sorry. So what, 2 planes and 25 agents. That's the kind of protection all POTUS kids get. There's money allocated for the protection of the POTUS and his family. But nice job avoiding the tax dollars we never got back from Iraq. I guess that doesn't count even though it dwarfs a trip to Mexico. I mean come on, let's talk about the big tax bucks.

jorgecostanza

Posts: 1,253

Does anyone expect Obama to announce where his 13 year old daughter is going on vacation, especially when it's a lawless land like Mexico? I mean, it's almost as violent as Florida, geez...

And let's see PROOF that the taxpayer is paying this, and not Obama...

bomberhojoe

Posts: 7,336

Of all the places he could send his daughter to, why would he pick Mexico?? POTUS and the parents of the friends may very well be picking up their daughter's hotel and daily expense costs, in fact I would bet that OMB regulations require it, but the planes and the security is all most assuredly on US.

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prof. quiz

Posts: 2,887

From what I read Obama's daughter asked her parents for permission to go on a class trip to Mexico to work in an orphanage as well as vacation with her schoolmates.

craner7

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Luvda thank you for being the one bringing this stuff up. When I do or any other person who finds all these vacations over the top we're mean and petty and hateful.

You are exactly right, it be wrong for ANY POTUS and family doing this BS. You wanna know whats even more maddening about it Luvda? Couldn't find the exact thing he ordered but this is close enough....giving orders for OTHERS to consolidate trips, cut down on expenses.

An executive order signed by President Obama this week calls on agencies to use travel sparingly, only when it requires workers to be away from their desks, such as diplomatic missions and enforcement inspection. Obama also instructed agencies to expand their use of teleconferencing and videoconferencing.

And this Mexico thing ain't nothing.....read and cringe.

And to those who say its petty or hateful to complain about this....how about appearances, let alone the cost? Especially when you order others in Govt to clamp down on spending. Fraud is what this guy is.

Oh....and Bush and Reagan vacationed mainly to their own places.

Michelle Obama thanks Media for their Bias during $100 Million Safari Vacation

By Andrew Zarowny

How much has Michelle Obama′s vacation trip to Africa cost? For security reasons, an exact figure is unknown. The estimates range anywhere from $2 Million dollars a day to $10 Million per day, depending on how many vehicles and support equipment from America was brought along for her use. My guess is that she and her entourage, including staff, children, her mother as well as cousins and friends is probably on the higher end. So while continuing her $100 Million dollar African safari vacation, she took a few moments to be interviewed by CNN, where the First Lady thanked the media when asked about the upcoming election. “Fortunately, we have help from the media. I have to say this: I am very grateful for the support and kindness that we’ve gotten.”

Michelle Obama and company will round out their 8-day visit to Africa with a private, exclusive safari in Botswana. While she has made a few ‘official’ visits, meeting with leaders and talking about youth and education, the trip to Africa has been more of a vacation. Dozens of family members and friends have accompanied her and her daughters. As far as any real, genuine official business, that would have happened the prior two weeks when Secretary of State Hillary Clinton toured Africa. So Michelle Obama′s trip is one of fluff and photo-ops.

Now, while critics may disagree with estimates of the cost of this safari vacation, even if you take the low-end of the pricing, around $18-20 Million dollars total, can you honestly say it is justified? The United States is broke! We are borrowing 42 cents of every single dollar the Federal government spends. With the nation facing a true unemployment rate of about 16% or worse, as some 14-plus million Americans have lost their jobs since her husband, Barack Obama took office, was taking a vacation overseas a good idea? Could not Michelle Obama had taken her friends and family to the Gulf Coast, still suffering economically after her husband bungled the BP oil spill disaster?

So how much is Michelle Obama′s African safari vacation costing American taxpayers? Anywhere between $20 Million to $100 Million dollars. The range largely depends on the number of vehicles to be used by her and her entourage which would have been flown there from America. Large Air Force transport jets only carry so many armor-plated SUVs and limousines. But the First Lady is obvious relaxed enough during this vacation as she admitted to CNN that the media is biased and she even went so far as to thank them for their support and kindness. True, she said this in context to the amount of privacy given to her daughters, but we know the real meaning behind the statement. Especially since she said this in regards to the upcoming reelection campaign.

MADMAX

Posts: 6,115

Mar 30, 2012 -- 4:56PM, craner7 wrote:

Luvda thank you for being the one bringing this stuff up. When I do or any other person who finds all these vacations over the top we're mean and petty and hateful.

You are exactly right, it be wrong for ANY POTUS and family doing this BS. You wanna know whats even more maddening about it Luvda? Couldn't find the exact thing he ordered but this is close enough....giving orders for OTHERS to consolidate trips, cut down on expenses.

An executive order signed by President Obama this week calls on agencies to use travel sparingly, only when it requires workers to be away from their desks, such as diplomatic missions and enforcement inspection. Obama also instructed agencies to expand their use of teleconferencing and videoconferencing.

And this Mexico thing ain't nothing.....read and cringe.

And to those who say its petty or hateful to complain about this....how about appearances, let alone the cost? Especially when you order others in Govt to clamp down on spending. Fraud is what this guy is.

Oh....and Bush and Reagan vacationed mainly to their own places.

Michelle Obama thanks Media for their Bias during $100 Million Safari Vacation

By Andrew Zarowny

How much has Michelle Obama′s vacation trip to Africa cost? For security reasons, an exact figure is unknown. The estimates range anywhere from $2 Million dollars a day to $10 Million per day, depending on how many vehicles and support equipment from America was brought along for her use. My guess is that she and her entourage, including staff, children, her mother as well as cousins and friends is probably on the higher end. So while continuing her $100 Million dollar African safari vacation, she took a few moments to be interviewed by CNN, where the First Lady thanked the media when asked about the upcoming election. “Fortunately, we have help from the media. I have to say this: I am very grateful for the support and kindness that we’ve gotten.”

Michelle Obama and company will round out their 8-day visit to Africa with a private, exclusive safari in Botswana. While she has made a few ‘official’ visits, meeting with leaders and talking about youth and education, the trip to Africa has been more of a vacation. Dozens of family members and friends have accompanied her and her daughters. As far as any real, genuine official business, that would have happened the prior two weeks when Secretary of State Hillary Clinton toured Africa. So Michelle Obama′s trip is one of fluff and photo-ops.

Now, while critics may disagree with estimates of the cost of this safari vacation, even if you take the low-end of the pricing, around $18-20 Million dollars total, can you honestly say it is justified? The United States is broke! We are borrowing 42 cents of every single dollar the Federal government spends. With the nation facing a true unemployment rate of about 16% or worse, as some 14-plus million Americans have lost their jobs since her husband, Barack Obama took office, was taking a vacation overseas a good idea? Could not Michelle Obama had taken her friends and family to the Gulf Coast, still suffering economically after her husband bungled the BP oil spill disaster?

So how much is Michelle Obama′s African safari vacation costing American taxpayers? Anywhere between $20 Million to $100 Million dollars. The range largely depends on the number of vehicles to be used by her and her entourage which would have been flown there from America. Large Air Force transport jets only carry so many armor-plated SUVs and limousines. But the First Lady is obvious relaxed enough during this vacation as she admitted to CNN that the media is biased and she even went so far as to thank them for their support and kindness. True, she said this in context to the amount of privacy given to her daughters, but we know the real meaning behind the statement. Especially since she said this in regards to the upcoming reelection campaign.

I think you guys with selective outrage need a vaction.

Press Secretary Ari Fleischer: “Well, the reconstruction costs remain a very -- an issue for the future. And Iraq, unlike Afghanistan, is a rather wealthy country. Iraq has tremendous resources that belong to the Iraqi people. And so there are a variety of means that Iraq has to be able to shoulder much of the burden for their own reconstruction.” [Source: White House Press Briefing, 2/18/03]
Deputy Secretary of State Richard Armitage: “This is not Afghanistan…When we approach the question of Iraq, we realize here is a country which has a resource. And it’s obvious, it’s oil. And it can bring in and does bring in a certain amount of revenue each year…$10, $15, even $18 billion…this is not a broke country.” [Source: House Committee on Appropriations Hearing on a Supplemental War Regulation, 3/27/03]

Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz: “There’s a lot of money to pay for this that doesn’t have to be U.S. taxpayer money, and it starts with the assets of the Iraqi people…and on a rough recollection, the oil revenues of that country could bring between $50 and $100 billion over the course of the next two or three years…We’re dealing with a country that can really finance its own reconstruction, and relatively soon.” [Source: House Committee on Appropriations Hearing on a Supplemental War Regulation, 3/27/03]
Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld: “If you [Source: worry about just] the cost, the money, Iraq is a very different situation from Afghanistan…Iraq has oil. They have financial resources.” [Source: Fortune Magazine, Fall 2002]

State Department Official Alan Larson: “On the resource side, Iraq itself will rightly shoulder much of the responsibilities. Among the sources of revenue available are $1.7 billion in invested Iraqi assets, the found assets in Iraq…and unallocated oil-for-food money that will be deposited in the development fund.” [Source: Senate Foreign Relations Committee Hearing on Iraq Stabilization, 06/04/03]
Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld: “I don't believe that the United States has the responsibility for reconstruction, in a sense…[Reconstruction] funds can come from those various sources I mentioned: frozen assets, oil revenues and a variety of other things, including the Oil for Food, which has a very substantial number of billions of dollars in it. [Source: Senate Appropriations Hearing, 3/27/03]

craner7

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I'm confused Max....sum it up simple for me

JoeGNJ

Posts: 9,688

Mar 30, 2012 -- 2:03PM, Cleese wrote:

I have no problem with Obama sending his daughter somewhere for her birthday. The problem I have is Mexico, the 12 friends, 2 planes, and 25 SS men.

Ill start with Mexico. This countries economy is in the toilet, why not send your daughter some where in the USA and put the money towards something in the USA instead of giving the money to Mexico. Help your countries economy, not Mexico's. Is 12 friends necessary? Really, 12 friends? Odds are that tax payers are paying for the 12 friends travel and leisure expenses. I have no problem with taking friends, but how about 2 or 3, not 12. Why do you need 2 planes? 1 plane for his daughter and friends and then 1 plane for the SS men? Why not just have them all go on 1 big plane. 13 kids + 25 SS men + 2 pilots + (lets just say) 4 flight attendents = 44 people. Im pretty sure you can find a single plane that can carry 44 people. And then there is the 25 SS men. I know Mexico is a dangerous place but like I said, why not go somewhere in the USA? Also, does each kid need 2 SS men, cause thats about what it equates to. As I mentioned before as well, less friends means less SS men.

So less friends + 1 less plane + less SS men = less tax payers dollars being spent. I actually could get past all that stuff and not think much of it cause its his daughter birthday. You want your kids to have a great and memorable birthday.

My problem is...dont sit there and say your trying to improve this country by getting the economy turned around but then take US tax payers dollars and spend it in another country, helping another countries ecomony when you're supposed to be helping ours.

And here Cleese, I only thoguth you were a basbeaball dude! BRAVO!

JoeGNJ

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Michelle Obama thanks Media for their Bias during $100 Million Safari Vacation

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