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1 year ago  ::  Apr 13, 2012 - 11:48PM #11
cywhitey
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Apr 13, 2012 -- 11:33PM, craner7 wrote:


By the time I knew Archie was a leftist his show was out of production so thankfully I got to enjoy it without knowing it. I cannot, will not see movies with Sean Penn, Brad Pitt, Clooney or many others of the far left outspoken windbags or who like Penn, I think it was, refused to stand for God Bless America at Yankee Stadium. They knock the nation that has made them rich. Screw  them. I dont care if an actor is liberal or not like Art but dont preach your BS to us.




Well I'm glad you were able to enjoy him being a racist before you were disappointed to learn that he didn't really hate black people.

1 year ago  ::  Apr 13, 2012 - 11:54PM #12
craner7
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C'mon! Chill! Everyone loved " All in the Family" Tongue Out

1 year ago  ::  Apr 14, 2012 - 12:10AM #13
cywhitey
Posts: 1,330

Apr 13, 2012 -- 11:54PM, craner7 wrote:


C'mon! Chill! Everyone loved " All in the Family"



I did too. I don't understand why it matters what people think though. Whitey Ford was my favorite pitcher growing up. It doesn't bother me that he's a Republican. 

1 year ago  ::  Apr 14, 2012 - 12:16AM #14
craner7
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And it doesnt bother me either, unless they become a windbag or pull stunts like Penn ( think it was him ) did at Yankee Stadium a few yrs ago.


I still liked Carrol O'Connor, just was shocked he was a libby.

1 year ago  ::  Apr 14, 2012 - 12:27AM #15
louisiana_lightning
Posts: 2,067

I thought it was pretty obvious Carroll O'Conner was liberal, for him not to be it would mean not being in on the joke and being laughed at rather than laughed with.  Norman Lear made alot of entertaining shows back then designed to challenge convention and present complex flawed charcters that we can relate to rather than full out silly caricatures.  Knowing Lear's politics I am sure there is very little we would see eye to eye on but for their time his shows were ground breaking if not a little campy.

1 year ago  ::  Apr 14, 2012 - 12:31AM #16
cywhitey
Posts: 1,330

Apr 14, 2012 -- 12:27AM, louisiana_lightning wrote:


I thought it was pretty obvious Carroll O'Conner was liberal, for him not to be it would mean not being in on the joke and being laughed at rather than laughed with.  Norman Lear made alot of entertaining shows back then designed to challenge convention and present complex flawed charcters that we can relate to rather than full out silly caricatures.  Knowing Lear's politics I am sure there is very little we would see eye to eye on but for their time his shows were ground breaking if not a little campy.




Hey LL. I have a question for you. Why can't Ron Paul do better in this Republican primary? All we've heard since 2008 from Republicans is about how much we need a smaller government. Even liberals thought the Tea Party, supposedly libertarian-leaning, was running the GOP.

1 year ago  ::  Apr 14, 2012 - 12:46AM #17
craner7
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Ron Paul has many good ideas but also wacky ones. Not to mention ( and I love the guy ) his own lovable but wacky demeanor.

1 year ago  ::  Apr 14, 2012 - 1:04AM #18
louisiana_lightning
Posts: 2,067

Apr 14, 2012 -- 12:31AM, cywhitey wrote:


Hey LL. I have a question for you. Why can't Ron Paul do better in this Republican primary? All we've heard since 2008 from Republicans is about how much we need a smaller government. Even liberals thought the Tea Party, supposedly libertarian-leaning, was running the GOP.




It's flat out depressing, I'd watch alot of the debates with my grandfather and he would be nodding with everything Paul said only to turn to me and ask each time "how old is he again" then shake his head at the answer.  We put in our votes in the primary but he didn't even make an effort down here because the Doctor doesn't tell people what they want to hear, he tells them what they need to hear and nobody was winning a primary in Florida while pointing out that the countries we embargoed still have their oppressive dictators and a convenient scape goat while the countries we traded with have experienced a political renaissance.  The truth is that libertarians like him are a rare breed in Washington on either side of the aisle and it seems that with bipartisan support we have changed the subject to polarizing issues where both sides dig in their heals and display their outragous ignorance while the legitimate issues get once again marginalized.


The vast majority of political contributions are to buy influence, not squelch it so he will always be an enemy of the ambitious self serving slugs that don't care what damage they do as long as the consequences aren't immediate and the stink doesn't stick to them.  My hope now that Santorum fortunately bowed out is that Paul out performs Gingrich decisively from here on out and can peddle influence and get Romney to adopt alot of his platform in order to release the libertarian vote.  If we get another active Keynesian or Monetarist in office disquised as an alternative we will unfortunately decline further until we wake up while most will just get more cynical and stop listening.

1 year ago  ::  Apr 14, 2012 - 8:17AM #19
louisiana_lightning
Posts: 2,067

Apr 14, 2012 -- 12:46AM, craner7 wrote:


Ron Paul has many good ideas but also wacky ones. Not to mention ( and I love the guy ) his own lovable but wacky demeanor.





His ideas only seem wacky when they are presented by the media as sound bites and are not given proper context.  As far as his demeanor I think his being 76 has alot to do with that perception, if he was still in the body of the freshman Congressman in 1976 that made him the greatest baseball player on the Congressional baseball team ever he would probably be alot more marketable but then again he wouldn't be not only consistant but proven right on almost every major issue to anyone unbiased enough to set their personal interests aside and give an objective view of the results.



1 year ago  ::  Apr 14, 2012 - 10:45AM #20
Yankee1954
Posts: 8,749

Apr 13, 2012 -- 11:33PM, craner7 wrote:


By the time I knew Archie was a leftist his show was out of production so thankfully I got to enjoy it without knowing it. I cannot, will not see movies with Sean Penn, Brad Pitt, Clooney or many others of the far left outspoken windbags or who like Penn, I think it was, refused to stand for God Bless America at Yankee Stadium. They knock the nation that has made them rich. Screw  them. I dont care if an actor is liberal or not like Art but dont preach your BS to us.





Stay away from tall buildings Craner, you're losing it!

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