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Apr 17, 2012 -- 12:09PM, Stratocaster wrote:

Apr 17, 2012 -- 12:01PM, yank0428 wrote:

Apr 17, 2012 -- 10:22AM, Stratocaster wrote:

Apr 17, 2012 -- 10:15AM, Lola wrote:

Does he have a no trade clause? I'll help pack his bags but I don't see him fitting in with that group.

Cot's doesn't list a no-trade. Kind of surprising though if it's accurate. Rafael Soriano rhp 3 years/$35M (2011-13) 3 years/$35M (2011-13) signed by NY Yankees as a free agent 1/14/11 11:$10M, 12:$11M, 13:$14M Soriano may opt out and take $1.5M buyout after either 2011 or 2012 seasons

I didn't know he was getting 14 mil next year. There would have to have money going to the other team and no way he opts out unless he goes somewhere and pitches like his last year in Tampa . Even then that would be stupid on his part because every team knows his act now.

Yep... Yanks are stuck with him. Thanks Hal, et al. Nobody's going to pay him that $$ even to close, so he won't opt-out. If the Yankees could eat a chunk of money in a deal while getting a valuable young player back that would be great IMO. Those are tough things to work out though, especially during the season. This thing with the Giants probably goes nowhere, but it's fun to ponder. I think they have other guys in the pen, and they have a minor league reliever they're pretty high on apparently.

Ponder?  lol  I doubt it would go anywhere either, but it is an interesting idea.  That opt-out clause and his amount would be the killer.  If the Yanks wanted a good young guy in return they'd have to kick in a chunk of money especially with that opt-out clause.  The Giants would probably be more willing to deal a young guy if they knew they'd have Soriano for at least the next 2 years with the Yankees paying some of that money.

Apr 17, 2012 -- 12:15PM, BigGuy wrote:

Apr 17, 2012 -- 12:09PM, Stratocaster wrote:

Apr 17, 2012 -- 12:01PM, yank0428 wrote:

Apr 17, 2012 -- 10:22AM, Stratocaster wrote:

Apr 17, 2012 -- 10:15AM, Lola wrote:

Does he have a no trade clause? I'll help pack his bags but I don't see him fitting in with that group.

Cot's doesn't list a no-trade. Kind of surprising though if it's accurate. Rafael Soriano rhp 3 years/$35M (2011-13) 3 years/$35M (2011-13) signed by NY Yankees as a free agent 1/14/11 11:$10M, 12:$11M, 13:$14M Soriano may opt out and take $1.5M buyout after either 2011 or 2012 seasons

I didn't know he was getting 14 mil next year. There would have to have money going to the other team and no way he opts out unless he goes somewhere and pitches like his last year in Tampa . Even then that would be stupid on his part because every team knows his act now.

Yep... Yanks are stuck with him. Thanks Hal, et al. Nobody's going to pay him that $$ even to close, so he won't opt-out. If the Yankees could eat a chunk of money in a deal while getting a valuable young player back that would be great IMO. Those are tough things to work out though, especially during the season. This thing with the Giants probably goes nowhere, but it's fun to ponder. I think they have other guys in the pen, and they have a minor league reliever they're pretty high on apparently.

Ponder?  lol  I doubt it would go anywhere either, but it is an interesting idea.  That opt-out clause and his amount would be the killer.  If the Yanks wanted a good young guy in return they'd have to kick in a chunk of money especially with that opt-out clause.  The Giants would probably be more willing to deal a young guy if they knew they'd have Soriano for at least the next 2 years with the Yankees paying some of that money.

LOL..  Nice!  You laughed at my word, and then repeated my ponder right back to me... Or would it be my "ponderance"?  Yeah, that's it.

I'd love to move him. I was completely behind signing him, i thought it would make us unstoppable, but i hate his attitude and he can't get big outs. my patience with him has been exhausted, i'm done supporting him.

Right now his only "value" is as trade bait to an NL team that is desperate.  That team is the Giants.  PICK UP THE PHONE!

Apr 18, 2012 -- 9:14AM, CaptainJeter wrote:

Apr 17, 2012 -- 3:00PM, AltaJoe wrote:

Right now his only "value" is as trade bait to an NL team that is desperate.  That team is the Giants.  PICK UP THE PHONE!

I agree. It can't hurt to call. Soriano is a sulky sourpuss who hates being the 7th inning guy. He wants to close.

Sends  him to a place where he will close.

Yanks  would  probably have to offer some cash, but with that they would have leverage to ask for a decent

prospect or  2 .

sanfrancisco.giants.mlb.com/mlb/prospect...

Looking into this idea yesterday led me to lurking on a Giants message board or two to get a sense of how they felt about the closer situation.  The overwhelming consensus was that trading for a closer is a bad idea.  They have a couple of in house candidates, and a highly touted prospect (Heath Hembree) at AAA who they feel could be their next closer.  While this initially seemed like an intriguing idea to me, I honestly don't see a fit here.  I can't see the Giants using financial or prospect resources to address their closer vacancy when they have in-house options they like.  That's my take at this point anyway.