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how about the Yanks never trade with Seattle again? Pineda shutdown again.
1 year ago  ::  Apr 21, 2012 - 4:14PM #21
cano33
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Answer does not change.  We need that spot to keep our 30 something players healthy.  The days of full time DH in the al is fading. 

1 year ago  ::  Apr 21, 2012 - 4:25PM #22
BigGuy
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Apr 21, 2012 -- 4:14PM, cano33 wrote:


Answer does not change.  We need that spot to keep our 30 something players healthy.  The days of full time DH in the al is fading. 




That's the reason he was dealt.  Let's face it if the Yankees really believed that Montero was going to be their everyday catcher does anybody think they'd trade him away?  I doubt it.  Despite all their talk that they thought he could be an everyday catcher, everybody else thought he couldn't.  Even Seattle's GM said at the time of the trade that if he doesn't turn out to be their future catcher then the trade was not a good one for them.  I personally love Montero's bat and think he'll do really well. I was surprised when he was dealt.  But anytime you deal for a pitcher there's always a health risk involved.  It's not looking good right now for the Yankees part of this deal, but they also got the kid Campos in the trade and he could end up being the real gem  in years to come.  In the meantime, it looks like a bad deal for the Yankees, but its very early.  It'll be a few years before this deal can really be judged.

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1 year ago  ::  Apr 21, 2012 - 4:26PM #23
BigGuy
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Apr 21, 2012 -- 1:29PM, Searle wrote:


"Joel Sherman@Joelsherman1

Pineda IP in extend spring, still felt some shoulder weakness, shut down, #Yankees will determine next few days how to proceed"



"Joel Sherman @Joelsherman1


Emailed Cashman about Pineda's setback. Response: "Of course I am concerned - don't have an answer."#Yankees"



"Marc Carig @MarcCarig


Pineda's next stop ? Going to be examined by Yankees' team doctor"




Yanks should have stopped with the Nelson and Tino trades.




Good to see you around Searle, but how about some good news next time.

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1 year ago  ::  Apr 21, 2012 - 4:26PM #24
cano33
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Thank you BG. You are the voice of reason. 

1 year ago  ::  Apr 21, 2012 - 4:32PM #25
Stratocaster
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Apr 21, 2012 -- 4:26PM, cano33 wrote:

Thank you BG. You are the voice of reason. 






Sure when he's had his meds.  The other times he makes crazy claims like Mark Melancon is going to be Mo's replacement.

Sorry Big I just had to.  LOL

1 year ago  ::  Apr 21, 2012 - 4:40PM #26
AJFreeway
Posts: 4,710

If the Yankees never made another trade, they wouldn't lose anymore of their top players in exchange for used goods.

"I'm an angel in an Earth suit."

1 year ago  ::  Apr 21, 2012 - 4:44PM #27
AceMitchell
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Apr 21, 2012 -- 4:06PM, cano33 wrote:


So now he is Edgar lol.  They need an open DH spot. 




They have themselves to blame for that.

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1 year ago  ::  Apr 21, 2012 - 4:58PM #28
BigGuy
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Apr 21, 2012 -- 4:32PM, Stratocaster wrote:

Apr 21, 2012 -- 4:26PM, cano33 wrote:


Thank you BG. You are the voice of reason. 





Sure when he's had his meds. The other times he makes crazy claims like Mark Melancon is going to be Mo's replacement. Sorry Big I just had to. LOL



Actually,  I thought Melancon was going to be a very good setup man.  lol 

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1 year ago  ::  Apr 21, 2012 - 4:59PM #29
BigGuy
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Apr 21, 2012 -- 4:44PM, AceMitchell wrote:


Apr 21, 2012 -- 4:06PM, cano33 wrote:


So now he is Edgar lol.  They need an open DH spot. 




They have themselves to blame for that.




Thanks to the Arod deal.  The deal that keeps coming back to haunt them.

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1 year ago  ::  Apr 21, 2012 - 5:38PM #30
TheIronHorse
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Apr 21, 2012 -- 3:57PM, cano33 wrote:


Shame on yanks for letting go of a full time DHwhen our roster is loaded with 30 something players who need he DH spot.  Everyone is a Monday morning quarterback. 




This is a strawman. Montero could have taken all the DH at bats that will be given to Jones and Ibanez this season; Montero is a better hitter than Jones and Ibanez combined (and cheaper).


Also, it is not monday morning quarterbacking if people said it at the time of the trade. But as people were complaining about it, the response was that you have to wait and see how it plays out. Well, it's playing out about as horribly as possible. Anyone who criticised the trade before has every right to criticise the trade now; that is not monday morning quarterbacking.


Only trade big time prospects for big time proven talents. That means Cliff Lee, Felix Hernandez, David Price. It doesn't mean Pineda, unless you know something that rest of us don't, and it is obvious that the Yankees had no inside knowledge.

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