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Apr 25, 2012 -- 5:41PM, qwik3457 wrote:

Apr 25, 2012 -- 4:57PM, kingj wrote:

How can this trade be allowed to stand?  I mean, of course it will, but, geez, seems pretty obvious case of damaged goods.  Caveat emptor, indeed!

There is no evidence of damaged goods. The Yanks gave him the customary pre-trade physical, and that included a normal MRI. Everything came back normal.

Yes, I know.  And trades don't get taken back in baseball.  There was a physical.  He passed.  I get that.  But I am a skeptical man by nature, qwik, and I'm having a tough time buying all the coincidence.  No, I am not really proposing the trade get reversed.  There is no precedent.  The Yanks had their chance to have their doctors take a look.  They did.  They gave it a thumbs up.  It's more a "if it looks like a duck."  Pineda dropped off in production and speed after the All Star break last year.  Jack Z. did something few would do in trading a young arm.  Pineda arrived with a dead arm and fastball.  Seems fishy to me.  But what do I know?  I think trading Montero was the move to make.  He had no position, we have more catchers on the way up, and we needed an arm.  Just stinks that the arm we got won't be throwing for the Yanks for quite a while.  Perhaps there is no one to blame and it's just a fluke injury, bad timing, coincidence.  I'd just like to believe in a universe with a little more cohesive connectivity, I guess.

Apr 25, 2012 -- 6:20PM, CaptainJeter wrote:

Just saw Al Leiter on MLB Network

He said he had the same injury. It took him  a whole  year to re-hab. He  said he knew something was

wrong because a pitcher does not lose 5 mph off his fastball without something being wrong.

He said that he over compensended with his other muscles in his arm  and was probably pushing it ,( to get the velocity up) and this caused the tear.

Also he sited that it might have been the innings increase last year.

Those ****bag in Seattle must've overworked him to death.