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This pitching staff proves why the Pineda/Montero trade was a good trade.
1 year ago  ::  Apr 25, 2012 - 9:33PM #1
Boardroomjimmy aka Mr. Meebo
Posts: 3,300
My title is pretty self explanatory. This pitching staff had/has more holes in it then swiss cheese and something needed to be done to solidify it now and in the future. Sure an injury happened and there's all sorts of whack conspiracy theories that pineda wasn't examined thoroughly enough before the trade but the facts are the facts... he was injured during spring trading and at the time it was the right move. 


On a side note if we all feel the need to get upset any someone within the org. we need to be upset with Hank Steinbrenner. That A-rod contract is a big reason why the yanks are in the situation they are and are going to be.  
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1 year ago  ::  Apr 25, 2012 - 9:38PM #2
fatgiambi
Posts: 1,114

normally ur off ur rocker, but this is a good post. the pineda trade was the right move, regardless of what occurred. the arod contract and the tex contract are the culprits. mostly the arod contract though. also i wouldve not paid garcia to do exactly what phelps or warren couldve done. the kuroda move was ok b/c it was only one year and he has talent. but it lacked foresight to get into the arod and tex deals. yanks really gotta pray that either banuelos or betances pan out. 

1 year ago  ::  Apr 25, 2012 - 9:39PM #3
nc01
Posts: 1,146

Apr 25, 2012 -- 9:33PM, Boardroomjimmy aka Mr. Meebo wrote:

My title is pretty self explanatory. This pitching staff had/has more holes in it then swiss cheese and something needed to be done to solidify it now and in the future. Sure an injury happened and there's all sorts of whack conspiracy theories that pineda wasn't examined thoroughly enough before the trade but the facts are the facts... he was injured during spring trading and at the time it was the right move. 


On a side note if we all feel the need to get upset any someone within the org. we need to be upset with Hank Steinbrenner. That A-rod contract is a big reason why the yanks are in the situation they are and are going to be.  




You got it right on the head Jimmy. We have exactly 2 starting pitchers -- CC and Nova and that's it.


NC...


 

1 year ago  ::  Apr 25, 2012 - 9:42PM #4
Boardroomjimmy aka Mr. Meebo
Posts: 3,300

Apr 25, 2012 -- 9:38PM, fatgiambi wrote:


normally ur off ur rocker, but this is a good post. 





I def. won't disagree with you there.... :P 



I agree with you too on freddy. Should haved saved the dollars and give one of the kids a shot. They couldn't have done any worse. 

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1 year ago  ::  Apr 25, 2012 - 10:25PM #5
JoeGNJ
Posts: 9,595

Apr 25, 2012 -- 9:39PM, nc01 wrote:


Apr 25, 2012 -- 9:33PM, Boardroomjimmy aka Mr. Meebo wrote:

My title is pretty self explanatory. This pitching staff had/has more holes in it then swiss cheese and something needed to be done to solidify it now and in the future. Sure an injury happened and there's all sorts of whack conspiracy theories that pineda wasn't examined thoroughly enough before the trade but the facts are the facts... he was injured during spring trading and at the time it was the right move. 


On a side note if we all feel the need to get upset any someone within the org. we need to be upset with Hank Steinbrenner. That A-rod contract is a big reason why the yanks are in the situation they are and are going to be.  




You got it right on the head Jimmy. We have exactly 2 starting pitchers -- CC and Nova and that's it.


NC...


 




Dont give up on Kuroda...and ur right BRJ, there was NO conspiracy! I'm tired of reading all that crap.

JoeGNJ
1 year ago  ::  Apr 25, 2012 - 11:36PM #6
TheIronHorse
Posts: 838

Everyone has to stop with the Arod contract. It's ridiculous already. The Arod contract is not what's hurting the Yankees now. In 2 years it could be a different story, but stop lying to yourselves. The guy may need to DH once a week and that's it. There are plenty of at bats at DH to go around.

1 year ago  ::  Apr 25, 2012 - 11:51PM #7
AceMitchell
Posts: 3,782

Apr 25, 2012 -- 9:33PM, Boardroomjimmy aka Mr. Meebo wrote:

My title is pretty self explanatory. This pitching staff had/has more holes in it then swiss cheese and something needed to be done to solidify it now and in the future. Sure an injury happened and there's all sorts of whack conspiracy theories that pineda wasn't examined thoroughly enough before the trade but the facts are the facts... he was injured during spring trading and at the time it was the right move. 


On a side note if we all feel the need to get upset any someone within the org. we need to be upset with Hank Steinbrenner. That A-rod contract is a big reason why the yanks are in the situation they are and are going to be.  



No it wasn't unless you were getting back a sure thing.


Hank is the reason why the can't develop pitchers?

To anyone going through a difficult time right now  remember someone always has it worse.
1 year ago  ::  Apr 26, 2012 - 12:04AM #8
paterson
Posts: 959

   Michael Pineda went 1 and 4 with an ERA over 5.00 in an expansive ballpark during the 2nd half of 2011. Do you think that might have been a clue that something was not right with him? I don't see how giving up an elite hitting prospect, even if he never develops into more than a reserve catcher, for a questionable pitcher was a good idea.


   Even if you give all the characters in this sordid act the benefit of the doubt, doesn't it tell us something when he showed up looking like Hideki Irabu for training camp? Yes, the Yankees could use more pitching, but this was a dumb deal!

1 year ago  ::  Apr 26, 2012 - 5:47AM #9
Stratocaster
Posts: 6,405

Apr 25, 2012 -- 11:36PM, TheIronHorse wrote:

Everyone has to stop with the Arod contract. It's ridiculous already. The Arod contract is not what's hurting the Yankees now. In 2 years it could be a different story, but stop lying to yourselves. The guy may need to DH once a week and that's it. There are plenty of at bats at DH to go around.






Don't kid yourself.  That contract affects everything the Yankees do.  They don't operate in a vacuum.

1 year ago  ::  Apr 26, 2012 - 8:00AM #10
qwik3457bb
Posts: 5,751

Apr 26, 2012 -- 12:04AM, paterson wrote:


   Michael Pineda went 1 and 4 with an ERA over 5.00 in an expansive ballpark during the 2nd half of 2011. Do you think that might have been a clue that something was not right with him? I don't see how giving up an elite hitting prospect, even if he never develops into more than a reserve catcher, for a questionable pitcher was a good idea.


 



Not really. His peripherals were the same or better through the 2nd half. The 1 and 4 is the Mariners' awful offense as much as him. There was nothing really questionable, and if the results in the 2nd half had been just as good, the Yanks would have had to give up either Banuelos or Betances along with Montero to get him.

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