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Apr 30, 2012 -- 10:02PM, luvdayanks wrote:

Apr 30, 2012 -- 9:26PM, Yankeeloon wrote:

I totally agree it's not yet fair to judge the Pineda deal and also not to judge Cashman for that deal alone. What's perplexing is that nobody is allowed to call Cashman's overall record of pitching acquisitions & development horrid. What am I missing here? I'm not asking for his firing or imprisonment. Simply want to know why he's above criticism with you good folks.

I think if you look at the deals other GM's have made, Cashman is way above the standard. Theo wasn't the genius everyone thought he was. The GM position is tough, sometimes you bite the dog and sometimes the dog bites you.

Good analogy Luv.... Theo signed Lackey.... Cashman signed Burnett.

I like the saying they have on one of the new fields at Heritage field. "Sometimes you win... Sometimes you lose.... Sometimes it rains."

Speaking of Theo.... Where's his big signing Carl Crawford? Cashman dodged that bullet.

As Darvish pitches another gem. 

Apr 30, 2012 -- 9:09PM, theBaron wrote:

trades are not an exact science ..sure you can look at stats, tendencies, health, etc ..all of that really does is give the GM should he/she make the deal or not ... i think the yankees are terrible at grading& evaluating pitching, terrible at preping pitchers for the majors ...look at the resume of the trades ,and the record of prospects over the last 5-6 years ....the first wave of Hughes, Chamberlain, Kennedy for instance.. for some reason Hughes has regressed why ? ...Kennedy was supposed to be the next Maddux.. he is becoming that in the NL..sure lineups are shorter and weaker... but a friend always reminds me the yankees dont give prospects enough time to learn how to pitch ..maybe , maybe not depends on your point of view..as for Joba ...he is his own worst enemy ...he has the stuff ..does he have the mindset ?... we could sure use him now ...the killer B's ... Betances, Banulaous, Brackaman... all 3 have struggled since getting to AAA, Nova turned out to be the best of the lot... maybe Phelps will turn into that ...

Interesting viewpoint, but I don't get it.

I am not sure if it's "grading& evaluating pitching, terrible at preping pitchers for the majors" that is the problem. The Yankees have had this problem ever since i was a fan as a little kid, which has been for the past 30+ years. When it comes to developing, it's hard to make the argument that this is a Cashman problem, it's a Yankee Universe problem. We, the Yankee Universe, will not allow a pitcher to develop because we have all been "George Steinbrennerized" and that's fueled by the likes of the NY Sports Media. Let's face the facts, Cashman & Girardi tried giving our pitchers the time in 2009 remember? LOL...by the end of May, the fans were screaming for a "change."