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Who killed Bin Laden?
2 years ago  ::  May 03, 2012 - 10:26PM #41
Yankee1954
Posts: 8,749

May 3, 2012 -- 9:14PM, craner7 wrote:


OMG OMG OH MY GOOD GOD......The punk has been given credit over and freeking over again!!!!



The ISSUE is how he is handling it! The ISSUE is the UNPRESIDENTIAL way he is USING this....as HIS freeking victory.



AGAIN.....YEARS...Greeking YEARS of hard work by OTHERS went into this moment being possible. When presented with the monster on a silver platter he took it. THANK YOU oh freeking great one!! But you don't use an AMERICAN victory as a PERSONAL award for political points! It's UNPRESIDENTIAL and in the words of the leftist Huffington....Despicable.



Banging my head against the wall!!



Craner, what part of " I have stopped worrying about him" don't you get. Thelse are the words of G. Bush. Now you're gonna say he didn't mean it, right? And since when do you care about that LiberalHuffington Post? When was the last time Fox said anythinAbbas aboutbavRepublican?

2 years ago  ::  May 04, 2012 - 6:53AM #42
GottaGoToMo
Posts: 38,122

May 3, 2012 -- 9:14PM, craner7 wrote:


OMG OMG OH MY GOOD GOD......The punk has been given credit over and freeking over again!!!!



The ISSUE is how he is handling it! The ISSUE is the UNPRESIDENTIAL way he is USING this....as HIS freeking victory.



AGAIN.....YEARS...Greeking YEARS of hard work by OTHERS went into this moment being possible. When presented with the monster on a silver platter he took it. THANK YOU oh freeking great one!! But you don't use an AMERICAN victory as a PERSONAL award for political points! It's UNPRESIDENTIAL and in the words of the leftist Huffington....Despicable.



Banging my head against the wall!!




You're right Craner, using it as a political ploy at this point in time is despicable ... but anyone saying in the thread that he doesn't get credit for the initial kill is dead wrong ... he gets that credit ... however, you are right that he is now using it in a despicable manner to gain political points.

mariano42



"Without the Lord, I cannot do it."  Mariano Rivera - 9/22/13

2 years ago  ::  May 04, 2012 - 7:36AM #43
craner7
Posts: 14,950

Thats the point. Thank you!


2 years ago  ::  May 04, 2012 - 8:51AM #44
craner7
Posts: 14,950

May 3, 2012 -- 10:26PM, Yankee1954 wrote:





 When was the last time Fox said anythinAbbas aboutbavRepublican?




Undecided


2 years ago  ::  May 04, 2012 - 10:42AM #45
MAX
Posts: 11,014

May 4, 2012 -- 6:53AM, GottaGoToMo wrote:


May 3, 2012 -- 9:14PM, craner7 wrote:


OMG OMG OH MY GOOD GOD......The punk has been given credit over and freeking over again!!!!



The ISSUE is how he is handling it! The ISSUE is the UNPRESIDENTIAL way he is USING this....as HIS freeking victory.



AGAIN.....YEARS...Greeking YEARS of hard work by OTHERS went into this moment being possible. When presented with the monster on a silver platter he took it. THANK YOU oh freeking great one!! But you don't use an AMERICAN victory as a PERSONAL award for political points! It's UNPRESIDENTIAL and in the words of the leftist Huffington....Despicable.



Banging my head against the wall!!




You're right Craner, using it as a political ploy at this point in time is despicable ... but anyone saying in the thread that he doesn't get credit for the initial kill is dead wrong ... he gets that credit ... however, you are right that he is now using it in a despicable manner to gain political points.





Why shouldn't he use what was accomplished during his Presidency? Had the mission failed it would have been used against him. Giving the go ahead on such a risky mission couldn't have been an easy call. The President is also the first one to credit all those that were involved including the Navy Seals.

2 years ago  ::  May 04, 2012 - 11:03AM #46
craner7
Posts: 14,950

He blew it Max. I know its tough to admit but his arrogance and love of self took over and he screwed up the 1st anniversary of the AMERICAN victory.Tongue Out

2 years ago  ::  May 04, 2012 - 11:06AM #47
MAX
Posts: 11,014

May 4, 2012 -- 11:03AM, craner7 wrote:


He blew it Max. I know its tough to admit but his arrogance and love of self took over and he screwed up the 1st anniversary of the AMERICAN victory.Tongue Out



Maybe for the people who just don't like him and look to criticize him for anything. He didn't screw up the anniversary at all.




 

2 years ago  ::  May 04, 2012 - 1:22PM #48
craner7
Posts: 14,950

Who would've thought I'd ever like something from Huffigton!


Arianna Huffington Shocker: Obama's Bin Laden Ad 'One of the Most Despicable Things You Can Do'






It seems a metaphysical certitude that when Charlie Rose asked the perilously liberal publisher Arianna Huffington about Barack Obama's new campaign ad featuring former President Bill Clinton praising the current White House resident's decision to take out Osama bin Laden the CBS This Morning co-host didn't expect this answer.


"To turn it into a campaign ad is one of the most despicable things you can do" (video follows with transcript and commentary):



CHARLIE ROSE, CO-HOST: There’s much now about this commercial that President Clinton has done for the Obama campaign and the Romney reaction saying that they should not be using this the way they are. What’s your take?


ARIANNA HUFFINGTON: I agree completely.


GAYLE KING, CO-HOST: You agree with?


HUFFINGTON: I agree with the Romney campaign…


ROSE: Ah…


HUFFINGTON: …that using the Osama bin Laden assassination, killing, the great news that we had a year ago in order to say basically that Obama did it and Romney might not have done it, which is a…


ROSE: That’s the crucial difference to me.


HUFFINGTON: ..which is the message speculating…


KING: You think the President is capitalizing on that?


HUFFINGTON: I don't think there should be an ad about that. I think it's one thing to celebrate the fact that they did such a great job. It’s one thing to have an NBC special from the Situation Room which we’re going to have this week.


ROSE: Right. They’re doing a whole thing which interviews everybody on the anniversary.


HUFFINGTON: All that is perfectly legitimate. In the Situation Room which is unprecedented. All that is perfectly legitimate. But to turn it into a campaign ad is one of the most despicable things you can do. It's the same thing that Hillary Clinton did with the 3 a.m. call. You know, “You're not ready to be commander-in-chief.”


And it's also what makes politicians and political leaders act irrationally when it comes to matters of war because they're so afraid to be called wimps, that they make decisions, which are incredibly destructive for the country. I'm sure the president would not have escalated in Afghanistan if he was not as concerned, as Democrats are, that Republicans are going to use not escalating against him in a campaign.


KING: But in a campaign, aren't you supposed to tout your accomplishments of what you've done?


HUFFINGTON: But this is not just what this ad did, does. What the ad does is questions, if we are talking about the same ad.


ROSE: We are. There’s only one ad out there on that one. President Clinton talks about the moment of decision he, quoting, even quoting former President Bush about the…


HUFFINGTON: And it quotes a snippet from Romney, you know, several, and uses that to imply that Romney would not have been as decisive. There is no way to know whether Romney would have been as decisive. And to actually speculate that he wouldn't be is, to me, not the way to run campaigns, on either side.


Hot Air's Ed Morrissey agreed with Huffington writing Monday, "Obama would be on firm ground to highlight that victory in the war on terror, as he does in his tedious 'Forward' campaign video. Implying that Romney would have let Osama bin Laden go under those circumstances is, as Huffington says, despicable."


So that makes at least two conservatives on the record as agreeing with Huffington. We've clearly entered some warped parallel universe. I hope I know how to get back.


Yet as I wrote Saturday, what I find even more deplorable is using Clinton in this ad despite the numerous times he passed on capturing or killing bin Laden when he was President.


Who is he to talk about the Commander-in-Chief having one chance to make the right decision?


He apparently had ten concerning bin Laden and made the wrong decision each time.


Exactly when is someone in the mainstream media going to point that out?


Readers are advised not to hold their breath.


2 years ago  ::  May 04, 2012 - 1:33PM #49
MAX
Posts: 11,014

Who would've thought I'd ever like something from Huffigton!


 


A bone for some of her AOL members.

2 years ago  ::  May 04, 2012 - 2:01PM #50
ArtVandelay
Posts: 15,037

May 3, 2012 -- 9:53PM, jorgecostanza wrote:


May 3, 2012 -- 9:33PM, craner7 wrote:


....I swear his hypnotizing is pretty strong. God help us.





You mean when bush and his friends convinced you there were wmds in Iraq?






"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line." --President Bill Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998


"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program." --President Bill Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998


"Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face." --Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998


"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983." --Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998


"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs." Letter to President Clinton, signed by: -- Democratic Senators Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others, Oct. 9, 1998


"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process." -Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998


"Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies." -- Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999


"There is no doubt that ... Saddam Hussein has reinvigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies." Letter to President Bush, Signed by: -- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), and others, Dec 5, 2001


"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandate of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and th! e means of delivering them." -- Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002


"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country." -- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002


"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power." -- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002


"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction." -- Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002


"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..." -- Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002


"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force -- if necessary -- to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security." -- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002


"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years ... We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction." -- Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002


"He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do" -- Rep. Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002


"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members ... It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons." -- Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002


"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction." -- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002


"Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real..." -- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003



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