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May 6, 2012 -- 8:38AM, hampfan wrote:

I agree Montero would have been a good full time DH, but what are they going to do with A-Rod, Jeter etc. just sit them on the bench when they need rest  ?? For some reason and I'm sure they know more then we do on these boards, the Yankees didn't feel Montero could handle the catching duties for this team..  People don't realize just how important a catcher is to a team.. Hitting really comes second at that position, it's a very demanding defensive position on the field and a catcher more times then one thinks can save more runs with his defense then he ever makes up for with his bat..

Like so many have said, this trade is history, we didn't come out with it looking good right now, but I think it's too early to really see if this trade was a bust or not.. The good both players we received in this deal are young and still have time to become what we had hoped... Like the old saying, don't cry over spilt milk, it's over, it's time for all of us to get over it, there's nothing else that can be done...

And yet, for all the predictions about his being a "butcher" (New Fire) at catching, he caught King Felix last night, apparently without horrific issues. Couldn't we have had more patience with a 22 yr old whose offensive upside was as promising as Pineda's supposed pitching one? I  think the people running our team's organization have dropped the ball and succumbed to the shibboleth of "It's always pitching, stupid." It isn't JUST pitching that wins. Nor is it just pitching that excites a fan base.

Maybe the Yankees dropped the ball, but the thing that matters is simple, it's their money, it's their scouts and it's their team.. There must have been more in agreement to trade Montero for what ever they needed then there was people on these boards who think they know whats best for the team.. Like I said we won't know how this trade works out for years down the road.. It looks bad in the near future, but these two players we got are young something like 19 and 24 years old, it's too early to proclaim this a good or bad deal yet...

May 6, 2012 -- 8:38AM, hampfan wrote:

I agree Montero would have been a good full time DH, but what are they going to do with A-Rod, Jeter etc. just sit them on the bench when they need rest  ?? For some reason and I'm sure they know more then we do on these boards, the Yankees didn't feel Montero could handle the catching duties for this team..  People don't realize just how important a catcher is to a team.. Hitting really comes second at that position, it's a very demanding defensive position on the field and a catcher more times then one thinks can save more runs with his defense then he ever makes up for with his bat..

Like so many have said, this trade is history, we didn't come out with it looking good right now, but I think it's too early to really see if this trade was a bust or not.. The good both players we recieved in this deal are young and still have time to become what we had hoped... Like the old saying, don't cry over spilt milk, it's over, it's time for all of us to get over it, there's nothing else that can be done...

And yet, for all the predictions abt his being a "butcher" (Newfire) at catching, he caught King Felix last night, apparently without horrific issues. Couldn't we have had more patience with a 22 yr old whose offensive upside was as promising as Pineda's supposed pitching one? I  think the people running our team's organization have dropped the ball and succumbed to the shibboleth of "It's always pitching, stupid." It isn't JUST pitching that wins. Nor is it just pitching that excites a fan base.

Which is weird when you think about about. They didn't believe he could catch here but yet he's catching the King in Seattle. I understand it's Felix and he's great but if he was as bad as ppl say wouldn't the Ms keep him away from catching their biggest asset.

They had no patience for Montero but yet every time  Nunez botches a ball all you hear is he's a young kid, it's not easy, he's still learning, etc.

May 5, 2012 -- 8:01PM, GottaGoToMo wrote:

May 5, 2012 -- 7:59PM, newinn wrote:

May 5, 2012 -- 7:57PM, GottaGoToMo wrote:

May 5, 2012 -- 7:54PM, AJFreeway wrote:

May 5, 2012 -- 7:49PM, GottaGoToMo wrote:

You really are the worst!

Mo, I don't understand the "Awww, shucks!" attitude every time Cashman bombs a deal. It's like people are just supposed to laugh it off and forget it ever happened. The team would literally have to finish dead last for anyone to consider getting rid of him. It's obvious making bad deals alone isn't going to be enough.

The Pavano deal was not a bad deal ... it just turned into a bad deal ... but when he signed Pavano, everyone was after him.

This deal ... it's just bad luck.

Igawa ... well that was bad ... and that one was indeed on Cashman.

You really do have to look at things more objectively.

Wasting your time Mo.

I know ... I don't know why I keep trying ... but I remember the AJ that posted when I first joined the boards, and he wasn't this AJ!

AJ's a good guy. His opinions differ is all.

May 5, 2012 -- 8:46PM, Yankeeloon wrote:

I was following Montero for years and couldn't wait for him to get here (same w/Hughes). Then I was against trading him but when they got Pineda I was ok with it - pumped actually to see him become an ace. Looks like the trade is a bust now. It sucks. But we got the good end of Brosius for Rogers O'Neill for Kelly Graeme for Gerald W (was it?) Justice for Ledee Tino/Nelson for Hitchcock/Davis Knoblauch for Milton Cone for Jansen (?) Girardi for ( who again?) Cecil Fielder for Sierra Arod for Soriano (you can laugh at me go'head) And others... See, we can't rob everybody all the time.

So far the Montero trade looks like the M's did to the Yankees what the Yankees used to do to the Indians in the early 70's.

May 6, 2012 -- 10:03AM, AceMitchell wrote:

May 6, 2012 -- 8:38AM, hampfan wrote:

I agree Montero would have been a good full time DH, but what are they going to do with A-Rod, Jeter etc. just sit them on the bench when they need rest  ?? For some reason and I'm sure they know more then we do on these boards, the Yankees didn't feel Montero could handle the catching duties for this team..  People don't realize just how important a catcher is to a team.. Hitting really comes second at that position, it's a very demanding defensive position on the field and a catcher more times then one thinks can save more runs with his defense then he ever makes up for with his bat..

Like so many have said, this trade is history, we didn't come out with it looking good right now, but I think it's too early to really see if this trade was a bust or not.. The good both players we recieved in this deal are young and still have time to become what we had hoped... Like the old saying, don't cry over spilt milk, it's over, it's time for all of us to get over it, there's nothing else that can be done...

And yet, for all the predictions abt his being a "butcher" (Newfire) at catching, he caught King Felix last night, apparently without horrific issues. Couldn't we have had more patience with a 22 yr old whose offensive upside was as promising as Pineda's supposed pitching one? I  think the people running our team's organization have dropped the ball and succumbed to the shibboleth of "It's always pitching, stupid." It isn't JUST pitching that wins. Nor is it just pitching that excites a fan base.

Which is weird when you think about about. They didn't believe he could catch here but yet he's catching the King in Seattle. I understand it's Felix and he's great but if he was as bad as ppl say wouldn't the Ms keep him away from catching their biggest asset.

They had no patience for Montero but yet every time  Nunez botches a ball all you hear is he's a young kid, it's not easy, he's still learning, etc.

Agreed. Montero isn't Johnny Bench behind the plate but I've seen worse. There's no reason why he couldn't catch 1 or 2 times a week.