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Pineda Deal Looking Even Worse
1 year ago  ::  May 06, 2012 - 1:38PM #101
Stratocaster
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May 6, 2012 -- 1:32PM, BigGuy wrote:

May 6, 2012 -- 1:31PM, Stratocaster wrote:

May 6, 2012 -- 1:21PM, BigGuy wrote:


Geez, I didn't think this thread would get anywhere near this much action.  Its nice to see all the love in this thread. lol





Yes you did! lol By the way, next time you see fire and have gasoline.... don't try to put the fire out. Hey! At least everyone has picked a side here. LMAO!!



You know me,  always spreading sunshine wherever I go.  lol






Lots of sunshine here, lol.  :-)

1 year ago  ::  May 06, 2012 - 1:52PM #102
CaptainJeter
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May 6, 2012 -- 12:30PM, yankeeoldfan wrote:


Biggest problem, some on here think this is fantasy baseball instead of the real deal... Some think you can just snap your fingers and you can move, trade, or have any one you want.. Sorry folks it just doesn't work that way...




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1 year ago  ::  May 06, 2012 - 1:53PM #103
CaptainJeter
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May 6, 2012 -- 12:58PM, yankeedoodle wrote:


[Cashman is the one with can't adjust to reality.  He fell for the old bait and switch, he wanted King Felix and ended up with a guy who reported out of shape with an attitude that matches Soriano.   You would think there would be some understanding and study of a player's dedication to the game before giving up Montero.  




 


you have no proof to support this statement. You weren't there in the meetings. This is just your opinion .

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1 year ago  ::  May 06, 2012 - 1:59PM #104
CaptainJeter
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May 6, 2012 -- 1:31PM, BigGuy wrote:


him is just not true.


You are never going to hear a "he's off the table" about an offensive player unless he is already established like Cano. They are just much less important and much easy to aquire than premier pitchers. The idea that teams shouldn't just trade away their top hitting propects, is more related to fans wanting to see players come up through their system and feel like they are their guys then if it is the right or wrong thing to do.




bingo. That is the problem here. People are "too in love " with their prospects. Of  course Cashman is  going to say that Montero can be a catcher. Does anyone  think he wanted to de-value Montero's   value ? I knew when they brought him up last September , it was to showcase him  for a possible trade. Unfornute for many Yankee fans they fell in love with him . The old saying goes , "Never fall in love with what a players does in the  spring or September.

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1 year ago  ::  May 06, 2012 - 2:02PM #105
GottaGoToMo
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May 6, 2012 -- 12:07PM, Stratocaster wrote:

May 6, 2012 -- 11:35AM, GiuseppeFranco wrote:

Doodle, you're spot on. Imho, the yanks should have tried to work out a trade with miami for aroid this past winter. Its his home and they wanted to make a splash. I know they said he didnt want to go anywhere, but if they got creative, it couldve been the opportunity to rid the team of that albatross. And montero couldve been the back up catcher and dh. Ugh, what a disaster.




Respectfully, while that's a nice idea in theory, there is the small matter of Arod's no-trade clause to consider. I know it's all the rage to blame Cashman, but that's just piling on. Even if the no-trade weren't there, those kind of deals just never get done. That's just not reasonable.



Nah, Hank gets the blame on anything A-Rod! Wink

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1 year ago  ::  May 06, 2012 - 2:08PM #106
Stratocaster
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May 6, 2012 -- 2:02PM, GottaGoToMo wrote:

May 6, 2012 -- 12:07PM, Stratocaster wrote:

May 6, 2012 -- 11:35AM, GiuseppeFranco wrote:

Doodle, you're spot on. Imho, the yanks should have tried to work out a trade with miami for aroid this past winter. Its his home and they wanted to make a splash. I know they said he didnt want to go anywhere, but if they got creative, it couldve been the opportunity to rid the team of that albatross. And montero couldve been the back up catcher and dh. Ugh, what a disaster.




Respectfully, while that's a nice idea in theory, there is the small matter of Arod's no-trade clause to consider. I know it's all the rage to blame Cashman, but that's just piling on. Even if the no-trade weren't there, those kind of deals just never get done. That's just not reasonable.



Nah, Hank gets the blame on anything A-Rod!






Now I could get on board with some good old Hank bashing!  That's long overdue Mo.  ;)

1 year ago  ::  May 06, 2012 - 2:25PM #107
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May 6, 2012 -- 1:53PM, CaptainJeter wrote:


May 6, 2012 -- 12:58PM, yankeedoodle wrote:


[Cashman is the one with can't adjust to reality.  He fell for the old bait and switch, he wanted King Felix and ended up with a guy who reported out of shape with an attitude that matches Soriano.   You would think there would be some understanding and study of a player's dedication to the game before giving up Montero.  




 


you have no proof to support this statement. You weren't there in the meetings. This is just your opinion .




The first is a fan assumption based on the reality that Cash has looked into getting King Felix many times and a Montero deal was speculated.  The second is an observation based on the fact that the guy showed up overweight his second season in the bigs accompanied by a chip on his shoulder.

1 year ago  ::  May 06, 2012 - 2:27PM #108
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1 year ago  ::  May 06, 2012 - 2:45PM #109
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May 6, 2012 -- 2:25PM, yankeedoodle wrote:

May 6, 2012 -- 1:53PM, CaptainJeter wrote:


May 6, 2012 -- 12:58PM, yankeedoodle wrote:


[Cashman is the one with can't adjust to reality.  He fell for the old bait and switch, he wanted King Felix and ended up with a guy who reported out of shape with an attitude that matches Soriano.   You would think there would be some understanding and study of a player's dedication to the game before giving up Montero.  




 


you have no proof to support this statement. You weren't there in the meetings. This is just your opinion .




The first is a fan assumption based on the reality that Cash has looked into getting King Felix many times and a Montero deal was speculated.  The second is an observation based on the fact that the guy showed up overweight his second season in the bigs accompanied by a chip on his shoulder.






So Cashman went after Felix and settled for Pineda.  Then Pineda showed up 10 lbs... no ... 20 lbs... no... 30 lbs overweight.  Now he has a bad attitude?  Even if some of this ends up being true, your logic is seriously flawed.

1 year ago  ::  May 06, 2012 - 2:47PM #110
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May 6, 2012 -- 2:45PM, Stratocaster wrote:

May 6, 2012 -- 2:25PM, yankeedoodle wrote:


May 6, 2012 -- 1:53PM, CaptainJeter wrote:


May 6, 2012 -- 12:58PM, yankeedoodle wrote:


[Cashman is the one with can't adjust to reality.  He fell for the old bait and switch, he wanted King Felix and ended up with a guy who reported out of shape with an attitude that matches Soriano.   You would think there would be some understanding and study of a player's dedication to the game before giving up Montero.  




 


you have no proof to support this statement. You weren't there in the meetings. This is just your opinion .




The first is a fan assumption based on the reality that Cash has looked into getting King Felix many times and a Montero deal was speculated.  The second is an observation based on the fact that the guy showed up overweight his second season in the bigs accompanied by a chip on his shoulder.





So Cashman went after Felix and settled for Pineda. Then Pineda showed up 10 lbs... no ... 20 lbs... no... 30 lbs overweight. Now he has a bad attitude? Even if some of this ends up being true, your logic is seriously flawed.



 


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