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May 21, 2012 -- 9:29PM, Yankeeloon wrote:

Thank GOD these front office clowns passed on Darvish for Kuroda. They have all the inside knowledge.

Because you know spending $10 mill is the same as spending $100 mill on a pitcher.  I will never trust a japanese pitcher completely, they always seemed to be figured out.

May 22, 2012 -- 2:49AM, qwik3457bb wrote:

May 21, 2012 -- 7:43PM, AJFreeway wrote:

The Japanese A.J. Burnett. Darvish was the same price and he is 5x as good. Cashman's "going cheap" strategy sure is working wonders. The problem with trying to cut payroll is you have to be smart enough to know how to do it. Cashman clearly isn't.

Darvish wasn't anywhere close to the same price. Rangers won him with a $50 million posting bid.

What do you mean its not anywhere close? Its very close:

Darvish 6/$56M + $50M = $106M/6 = $17.7M + 40% of $56M/6 = $17.7 + $3.7M = $21.4M annualized cost

AJ  5/$82.5M = $16.5M per + 40% of $82.5M/5 = $16.5 + $5.5M = $22M annualized cost

That would be the cost if the Yanks had signed Darvish for the same contract as what Texas gave him. If you want to say that the Yanks would have had to pay more than $50m to win the bid and maybe a bit more in salary you can say that the total cost would have been equal: Roughly $22M per year for each player.

Now lets look at the total cost for each player with respect to the teams they played for over the life of the contract.

Darvish  $106M/6 = $17.7M

AJ $16.5 x 3 = $49.5 x 40%= $49.5M + $19.8M = $69.3M for first 3 years

$20M + $20M x 40% = $20M + $8M = $28M. for last 2 years + $69.3M = $97.3/5 = $19.6M

The bottom line is that Texas will pay less for Darvish in yearly cost than the Yanks will for AJ.

May 21, 2012 -- 7:43PM, AJFreeway wrote:

The Japanese A.J. Burnett. Darvish was the same price and he is 5x as good. Cashman's "going cheap" strategy sure is working wonders. The problem with trying to cut payroll is you have to be smart enough to know how to do it. Cashman clearly isn't.

My God.... ARE YOU THAT DUMB ?!?!?!?

Do you actually think that Yu Darvish is gonna actually come to the Yankees and pitch well? You're an idiot. So the Yankees sign Yu Darvish for 60 mil/6 years and what if he bombs like all the other Asian pitchers? Then he becomes another AJ Burnett with a contract that the Yankees will have a hard time unloading. Whoever thinks that Yu Darvish was going to come to NY and pitch the way he is pitching for Texas (now) is a FOOL.  It's not going to happen. I have been a Yankee fan toooooo long, to know that Darvish's success here is NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. It's the added pressure of the BIG CONTRACT that kills us...look at Albert Pujols, for example. Add to the fact that these players play here in NYC, the mecca of the media world and the pressure is overwhelming. 

I swear some people in these messageboards are just plain old two-face fools, like this **** who I am responding too who has absolutely no clue on how to run a baseball team or any business in general. There solution to a problem is to spend more money for more problems! They probably don't care whether or not the Yankees continue to subsidize the KC Royals or Pittsburgh Pirates through the luxury tax. People who advocate for that are NO YANKEE FANS or stupid ones, to say the least.

May 22, 2012 -- 10:44AM, Bats wrote:

May 21, 2012 -- 7:43PM, AJFreeway wrote:

The Japanese A.J. Burnett. Darvish was the same price and he is 5x as good. Cashman's "going cheap" strategy sure is working wonders. The problem with trying to cut payroll is you have to be smart enough to know how to do it. Cashman clearly isn't.

My God.... ARE YOU THAT DUMB ?!?!?!?

Do you actually think that Yu Darvish is gonna actually come to the Yankees and pitch well? You're an idiot. So the Yankees sign Yu Darvish for 60 mil/6 years and what if he bombs like all the other Asian pitchers? Then he becomes another AJ Burnett with a contract that the Yankees will have a hard time unloading. Whoever thinks that Yu Darvish was going to come to NY and pitch the way he is pitching for Texas (now) is a FOOL.  It's not going to happen. I have been a Yankee fan toooooo long, to know that Darvish's success here is NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. It's the added pressure of the BIG CONTRACT that kills us...look at Albert Pujols, for example. Add to the fact that these players play here in NYC, the mecca of the media world and the pressure is overwhelming. 

I swear some people in these messageboards are just plain old two-face fools, like this **** who I am responding too who has absolutely no clue on how to run a baseball team or any business in general. There solution to a problem is to spend more money for more problems! They probably don't care whether or not the Yankees continue to subsidize the KC Royals or Pittsburgh Pirates through the luxury tax. People who advocate for that are NO YANKEE FANS or stupid ones, to say the least.

Geez man...who p!$$ed in your cornflakes? Everytime you come in here you have start by calling somebody a fool, or stupid, or worse.

The luxury tax doesn't directly subsidize anyone. Its revenue sharing that gets divided among some of the teams. The luxury tax money goes into the general funds account and gets spent on MLB operations. So what if it indirectly subsidizes a few teams as long as the Yanks win? You sound like the guy at work who doesn't want a raise because some of it might go to an entitlement program and we wouldn't want THAT! Its called CUTTING OFF YOUR NOSE TO SPITE YOUR FACE!

The value of the Yankee franchise increased about $150M last year. Part of that is the result of them winning and thus putting butts in the seats and selling TV rights and other stuff. So, despite their high payroll and luxury tax they still managed to increase their franchise value. Do you think its wise to sacrifice that $150M profit just because you don't want to subsidize the other teams? That is what is REALLY dumb. Maybe you are too dumb to know the difference.

Maybe they can keep under the luxury cap and still keep winning. If they are going to do that they have to show they are smarter about judging talent and making trades than they have shown in the past. There's a 1 in 30 chance they will be smarter than ALL the other teams. There is a 100% chance they can outspend every team.