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May 24, 2012 -- 10:23PM, Yankeeloon wrote:

I've always said that 3 man rotation in 09 - plus Pettitte's awesomeness - was the key 'decision' toward winning that ring.

 Yup,and like Jack Mckeon in 03..everyone was screaming how it would blow up in their faces...they were proven wrong.

May 24, 2012 -- 10:40PM, Yankeeloon wrote:

I still say the 03 WS was lost by Aaron Boone's lousy at-bat/K in game 4, top of the 10th inning, bases loaded 1 out. Awful.

 That helped the kiss of death along. You knew when we didn't score that inning that it would blow up in our faces,and it did a la Weaver the next inning. Having said that,what also hurt was David Well's neglecting to take care of himself and the fact I really don't think the Yanks took the Marlins seriously until it was too late.

 That series haunts me more than 01. All we went through in the ALCS,only to lose at a home to a team that no one gives a crap about. There are baseball fans in Arizona..in Miami no one gives a flying crap about baseball. At least if we had lost to the Cubs it would have been to a team that actually has fans.

I find it funny how Girardi gets no credit for 2009, just as Torre got no credit for any of those championships at the time.  Girardi outmanaged one of the best managers in the game in Mike Scoscia and the Phillies team they faced in the WS was favored by many, including many on these boards.  

I don't think you can judge a young manager like Girardi against a career manager like Torre quite yet.  Girardi's strengths were actually some of Torre's worst weaknesses and vice versa.  However, we'll end up comparing them in 20 years.  Today, it just doesn't work.

May 24, 2012 -- 11:17PM, nwfire176 wrote:

I find it funny how Girardi gets no credit for 2009, just as Torre got no credit for any of those championships at the time.  Girardi outmanaged one of the best managers in the game in Mike Scoscia and the Phillies team they faced in the WS was favored by many, including many on these boards.  

I don't think you can judge a young manager like Girardi against a career manager like Torre quite yet.  Girardi's strengths were actually some of Torre's worst weaknesses and vice versa.  However, we'll end up comparing them in 20 years.  Today, it just doesn't work.

 Indeed and no one talks about Mike Scocia's gaffe in the deciding game where he brought in Kazmir to stop the bleeding..great idea there Mike. And in game 6,series on the line and what do you with Pedro? You leave a tiring Pedro out there with bases loaded against a guy who not only owned him in 09 but had given him headaches through his whole career. Dumb,dumb,dumb.

ninja in 01, it wasn't only 9/11 that made that postseason special. The. ALDS was a great comeback down 0-2, Jeter flip play etc, the ALCS was vs the 116 win Seattle team and of course the dramatic walk offs in that series plus the WS....and the fact that Mariano blew away the Dbacks in the 8th the way he did, the rain - of all things - in AZ, making the ground slick with the roof still open, the lousy throw to 2nd, the non throw to first by Brosius....ugh it's painful.