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Yankees stink at talent evaluation
13 months ago  ::  May 31, 2012 - 2:17PM #31
mikeyao
Posts: 1,323

May 30, 2012 -- 2:31PM, CaptainJeter wrote:

Listening to Mike talk about the Mets farm.  They are bringing up one guy after  another  from Buffalo  who are helping this  team. They are 6 games over , while we  are 3 games over with a bunch of superstars who can't buy a hit with RISP.
Meanwhile, the Mets minor leaguers  ARE coming  up, hitting  doubles in the gap and homeruns. And we have to look at Cano batting .150 with RISP and taking called strikes with the bases loaded.
Last year, he hit .350 with RISP. What happened ? Has he forgotten how to hit in the clutch? Swisher has gone cold as ice.  Tex has only hit  the past  few  games. Grandersen is back to swinging at pitches out of the strike  zone and striking out alot  , again.  ARod has less RBIS than Scott Hairston of the Mets.

Where is our Bourjous , our Trout ? Our Morales or our Kendricks ?

Brackman - first round pick- BUST
Colin  Curtis - bust
Kevin Russo- BUST

It is looking like Betances is a big  fat bust, too.Can't command his fastball and he is already 24. Looks like Cashman blew it  big time. He should have traded him  when he could. You got Joba and Hughes, both of whom you don't know if they are ever be what the Yanks expected them to be.
Romine? Doesn't appear he is going to  be much.  Heathcott , can't  stay healthy, appears to be another Nick Johnson ( all the tools,and injury prone )

Phelps , already 25 , as is Warren.

The Mets   got these kids   Zack Wheeler ( from the Giants for Beltran, previously ranked the 5th best prospect in baseball). Matt Harvey, Jeurys Familia, Jenrry Mejia



maybe  Big Guy or Major Yankee fan could post some hope about the farm system .


Is there really anyone to truly get  excited about?

It  seems to me that the Yankees lack in talent evaluation and player development.



Become a SMet fan than since you love their system SO MUCH!

13 months ago  ::  May 31, 2012 - 3:37PM #32
yank0428
Posts: 3,954

May 31, 2012 -- 1:09PM, hampfan wrote:






Hamp the Yanks never seem to jump levels with the prospects. I think BigGuy said in another thread Austin and Sanchez probably would go to Tampa which I think is the higher level of A ball. They might use Austin more at 3rd there since he couldn't play it at Charleston with Bichette there. I think Murphy is a Tampa so what happens to him if Sanchez moves up.Is he ready for AA.


 With no prior restrictions on international free agents you would think the Yanks would be loaded with them .How does anyone defend Cashman on that ? I would like to hear that excuse.


 Ibanez has been much better then I expected but seeing Jones and Chavez who are way past their better days is part of what makes this team so old. It would be nice to see a kid with some legs who can play.  




Good points, all of them. I think BG did indeed mention that any promotion of Austin and/or Sanchez would be to Tampa. I'd like to see some imaginative boldnes, though, when it comes to at least some such "promotions." Certainly Sanchez and Murphy wouldn't be a good combo to work together.



Murphy hit very well at Charleston but not that great since jumping to Tampa last year. He's hitting .234 this year. I know they tried him at other positions but has mostly caught this year. Sanchez would take over the catching. Creative and Cashman doesn't really seem like a fit.Maybe because Hal is so focused on his budget.


 I hope they know what they are doing with Nunez because from what I have seen of him I don't see how you could put a glove and shaky arm like that anywhere in the infield. BigGuy said when he was playing steady he improved but he is shaky out there. I know he didn't show much in the OF but he never played there much so he had an excuse . From what I saw of him his skills appear to be more suited to the OF. He's fast and has a decent arm where he doesn't have to be on the money like you do in the infield. With work I'm sure he could be a decent glove out there which also baffles me as to why he didn't play winter ball in the OF .Did he even play there in ST? Adam Dunn and Soriano play the OF I'm sure Nunez can also. 

13 months ago  ::  Jun 01, 2012 - 11:06AM #33
louisiana_lightning
Posts: 2,067

Let's look at where the Yankees have drafted their first pick out of 30 teams over the last decade:

  • 2011 - 51st
  • 2010 - 32nd
  • 2009 - 29th
  • 2008 - 28th
  • 2007 - 30th
  • 2006 - 41st
  • 2005 - 17th
  • 2004 - 23rd
  • 2003 - 27th
  • 2002 - 71st
  • 2001 - 23rd

Clearly that has to be the latest consistant draft picks of any of the 30 MLB teams and there are several reasons.  The Yankees rarely finish in the basement, the Yankees are one of a few teams that can afford to keep their aging stars after their prime where compensatory picks are awarded, the Yankees often give up high compensatory draft picks to opponents when they sign their aging stars.  When you are a team who's number one pick is a second rounder to your opponents you often have to gamble by drafting guys that declared to College or are high risk personality or health wise.  The question shouldn't be why are the Yankees not developing the talent the other teams are, the answer to that is clear.  The question should be why do other teams' top picks pan out so seldom?  Look how young, cheap, and deep the Rays are.  Why has it taken them this long with all those top draft picks to accomplish this and why with all those advantages reaped from years of finishing last has it bore so little fruit?

13 months ago  ::  Jun 01, 2012 - 11:33AM #34
yank0428
Posts: 3,954

Jun 1, 2012 -- 11:06AM, louisiana_lightning wrote:


Let's look at where the Yankees have drafted their first pick out of 30 teams over the last decade:

  • 2011 - 51st
  • 2010 - 32nd
  • 2009 - 29th
  • 2008 - 28th
  • 2007 - 30th
  • 2006 - 41st
  • 2005 - 17th
  • 2004 - 23rd
  • 2003 - 27th
  • 2002 - 71st
  • 2001 - 23rd

Clearly that has to be the latest consistant draft picks of any of the 30 MLB teams and there are several reasons.  The Yankees rarely finish in the basement, the Yankees are one of a few teams that can afford to keep their aging stars after their prime where compensatory picks are awarded, the Yankees often give up high compensatory draft picks to opponents when they sign their aging stars.  When you are a team who's number one pick is a second rounder to your opponents you often have to gamble by drafting guys that declared to College or are high risk personality or health wise.  The question shouldn't be why are the Yankees not developing the talent the other teams are, the answer to that is clear.  The question should be why do other teams' top picks pan out so seldom?  Look how young, cheap, and deep the Rays are.  Why has it taken them this long with all those top draft picks to accomplish this and why with all those advantages reaped from years of finishing last has it bore so little fruit?



All true LL but if doesn't answer the question of why the Yankees with their resources aren't loaded with international free agents.Thats where the could have made up for the constant low drafting positions. Now with the new CBA changes the have lost that advantage and didn't use the hammer while they could. Watching Chapman pitch for the Reds and making only 2 mill shows me somebody didn't do their homework.


 As far as the Rays that ownership hasn't been there that long and they are much better at what they do then the previous management.

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