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Phillies must be waving the white flag.....Hamels is on the block

12 months ago :: Jul 01, 2012 - 8:14PM #21
Bats Posts: 5,179	Jul 1, 2012 -- 4:43PM, LouHermanMantle wrote: Jul 1, 2012 -- 4:42PM, AlexRodriguezX wrote: I want Cole Hamels!! Plz go get him Cashman!!! Nah, if we really want him, we could wait till the off season.. Amaro is salivating over our farm system. No..........the Yankees shouldn't do that. If the Yankees are truly interested in Cole Hamels, RENTING HIM NOW is perhaps the BEST OPTION , rather than waiting for the offseason to pursue and sign him. Simply put, the Yankees cannot afford another bad long term contract. I would rather the Yankees acquire Hamels now and if it doesn't work don't sign him at season's end. If it DOES work out, then you'll at least know what you'll get from Cole Hamels for the next 5-6 yrs at (perhaps) 18-20 mil per. Hamels, unlike Roy Halliday and Cliff Lee, is young at 28 years old 2 time World Series pitcher. Not only that, but he's a 6'3" lefthander and IMO a worthwhile investment and a good risk to pursue NOW. Good HITTING cannot hit Good PITCHING; Good Hitting can only hit BAD PITCHES.
12 months ago :: Jul 01, 2012 - 8:17PM #22
jete2sandman42 Posts: 1,242	Memo to Philly: Stay away from Gary Sanchez. Thanks.
12 months ago :: Jul 01, 2012 - 8:28PM #23
Bats Posts: 5,179	Jul 1, 2012 -- 7:54PM, TheStripes wrote: Hamels is a quality pitcher but I'm in the camp that the cost will be too high both to trade for him and pay him as a FA. It will cost higher if the Yankees sign him to a (untradeable) multi-year contract and he ends up wilting under the Yankee Stadium spotlight. Good HITTING cannot hit Good PITCHING; Good Hitting can only hit BAD PITCHES.
12 months ago :: Jul 02, 2012 - 12:04AM #24
JonahFalcon Posts: 14,541	Lee is more moveable than Hamels with that contract.
12 months ago :: Jul 02, 2012 - 12:11AM #25
LouHermanMantle Posts: 376	Bats, so let me see if i understand this... The Yankees should try out Hamels for a few months... half the games will be spent on the road... but that's besides the point... So we trade for Hamels and try him out, sort of like probation, to see if he's worth the money he'll be demanding in the off season... Mind you this probation would be costing us some serious talent in the minors... but he's a 28 yr old Lefty.... which brings me to.. Now he passes probation, and he's a Free Agent... We are 3 or 4 future Major Leaguers down from the farm system, and now we have to pay this man 18-20 Million... A 28 yr old lefty is going to demand less than what his teammates (Doc and Lee on the Phillies) and (CC on the Yankees) made at an older age? You really think the market for Hamels will dip under 20 Million when Lee warranted 24+? In what mind? Im confused with your logic... Elaborate, please.
12 months ago :: Jul 02, 2012 - 1:46AM #26
dixieyank Posts: 2,455	He's gonna want big money after this season, or to sign an extension. He's not worth big money imho. He makes an ace on some clubs, and great number 2 on most. There will come a point, where these guys will see salary start to decline. High payroll teams getting tapped out and trying to avoid going over the limit, small market teams with not enough to pay big contracts, there will be few teams that can continue to give out 180 million dollar deals to everyone with a bit of talent. I don't think the Yankees can expect to have enough left over to pay another huge contract. They have to worry about resigning some of their own guys in the near future.
12 months ago :: Jul 02, 2012 - 8:21AM #27
Stratocaster Posts: 6,405	Jul 1, 2012 -- 5:27PM, ninja108 wrote: If the deal is reasonable,go for it. But you don't gut your farm system for a 3-4 month rental. You don't even get the draft pick if he signs elsewhere next year anymore..
12 months ago :: Jul 02, 2012 - 8:48AM #28
LiferYank Posts: 1,797	A team needs a loaded farm and salary room. After looking at every team im going to go with the dark horse M's getting Hamels to pair with Felix.
12 months ago :: Jul 02, 2012 - 9:52AM #29
61in61 Posts: 12,323	Jul 2, 2012 -- 8:48AM, LiferYank wrote: A team needs a loaded farm and salary room. After looking at every team im going to go with the dark horse M's getting Hamels to pair with Felix. Why would the Mariners spend that kind of money when they have such a lousy team in so many other areas?
12 months ago :: Jul 02, 2012 - 10:02AM #30
Cleese Posts: 4,178	Id trade for Hamels on the condition that we get a window for a contract extension or else theres no deal. Problem is though, is Hamels worth Banuelos cause the Phillies would all but demand Banuelos in a trade.