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Aug 12, 2012 -- 6:42PM, GottaGoToMo wrote:

course work for a law course will include the writing of legal documents, and one of those legal documents is a brief.  If one writes a Motion for Summary Judgment, they need a Brief in Support of Motion for Summary Judgment ... they also need Affidavits ... none of these documents are a thesis in the true sense of the word though.

Wow Mo, you and Demonseed have made fools out of everyone at Harvard, for generations they have been giving J.D.s  (legal doctorates) to legal students that completed Harvard's Law School curriculum.  What do you think Harvard will do they find out their J.D. standards aren't what you and Demonseed think they ought to be? 

Aug 12, 2012 -- 11:39PM, craner7 wrote:

Billy how dare you go against a Mensaman! Do you not realize just how brilliant he is?

Demonseed is backpeddling faster than an outfielder playing behind Josh Beckett.

First Demonseed claimed 0bama was never required to submit a substantial writing requirement such as one required for a masters degree or a higher doctorate degree.

Then I brought to Demonseeds attention that 0bama does have a doctorate, a JD from Harvard.  Then Demonseed claimed 0bama has a double-secret doctorate degree that didn't require any writing beyond ordinary course work. 

Then Demonseed claimed a legal doctorate degree was no where near the standard required for any other doctorate degree, just because he said so.

Just more spin from Demonseed to try to justify is political BS.

Aug 12, 2012 -- 11:20PM, BillyTheKid wrote:

 

Aug 12, 2012 -- 10:57PM, Demonseed wrote:

  Look up the requirements for a Doctoral Dissertation and tell me if you think they are equivalent with your paper.

 

  What part of a Harvard Law School degree being a doctorate degree are you too dumb to understand?  My "paper" earned me a doctorate degree, what is your highest degree? 

A J.D.(a legal doctorate) requires a significant writing requirement beyond what is required by regular class work.  If you think the standard for a J.D. are below the standards for other doctorate degrees, you should contact Harvard, I for one would love to hear that conversation. 

Why can't you just admit, you were wrong, shamelessly spinning you political agenda?

 

Billy, we can argue this point for days, for whatever reason you can not comprehend the fact that a J.D "legal doctorate" does not require a doctoral dissertation.  I do not know how else to explain it to you.  By your own admission your "substantial writing requirement" was fulfilled by writing a paper for a class that was 'longer and more comprehensive' than the 10 page paper others in the class had to write.  Here is the thing about this whole "argument" I never said anything about a substantial writing requirement, you did.  I said it required course work and no accompanying Thesis or Dissertation.  Yes, many degree programs in college/universities require substantial writing, many require comprehensive papers, but those are not dissertations.  Many of those papers may be written outside the normal scope of the required classwork, but they are still not a Thesis or a Dissertation.  It is not a matter of Semantics, if a writing requirement is waived because someone wrote a book or had an essay published, it still is not a Thesis or a Dissertation.  There is not much else to say about the issue.

Aug 13, 2012 -- 12:15PM, Demonseed wrote:

  I said it (a J.D.) required course work and no accompanying Thesis or Dissertation. 

Actually, you denied a J.D. require a substantial writing requirement, just course work, which is WRONG. 

Aug 13, 2012 -- 12:15PM, Demonseed wrote:

  ...if a writing requirement is waived because someone wrote a book or had an essay published ...

Your quote there just proves you have no idea what you post about.  A doctorate program can't "waive(d)" the writing requirement of the degree because by definition, a doctorate requires satisfactory completion of the programs writing requirement criteria.

By my count that's about four facts you have completely fabricated in this thread.  

Aug 14, 2012 -- 1:58AM, Demonseed wrote:

lol, you must be fun to have around.  First, show me where I said a J.D. did not require a substantial amount of writing, wow, you can't because I never stated that. 

I never said you said that.  What you posted was a J.D. only requires course work.   Which was/is incorrect because a J.D. candidate could successfully complete the minimum requirements of a programs course work, yet not qualify for a J.D. degree becaue he or she didn't complete the legal writing requirement.

Aug 14, 2012 -- 1:58AM, Demonseed wrote:

where did I specifically mention a Doctorate degree in what you quoted above,

 

My discussion, in this thread, only revolved around doctorate degrees, but I should have been aware that you are to dumb to notice that and reply relevent response.  It is like I were posting about apples, so why would you be so dumb as to post a response about oranges?

Aug 14, 2012 -- 1:58AM, Demonseed wrote:

you would realize some classes and degree programs will waive writing requirements for reasons such as I listed.

I am sure that education programs you have participated in "waived" a lot of requirements.  That would explains a lot.  Doctorate programs don't waive writing requirements because writing is a necessary element of the doctorate.

Aug 14, 2012 -- 1:58AM, Demonseed wrote:

 

You see, we are on a message board and it is possible to go back and read our previous posts

Ya mean like when you said advance degrees, like JD's require writing requirments.  Then you claimed a J.D. only requires course work?

Or what about when you said Obama never was required to a writing requirement required for an advanced degree, when we all know he has a J.D. from Harvard.

Or what about when you challenged Art to help me out, and it turned out Mo tried, unsuccessfully to help you out ... that one was my favorite.

Or how about when I posted some basics about the requirements of a JD writing requirement, and you replied how a writing requirement could be "waived" and then you back-peddled you claimed you were referring to degrees not relevent to what I was posting about.  Do you have any more irrelevent facts?

Keep posting.  The more you do, the more you prove you don't know what you are talking about.