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You know what's funny? How many times have posters here said you have to wait 3 years to judge a trade? OK, its 3 years down the road on the Melky trade and people are making excuses about how the trade was 3 years ago, blah, blah, blah, and he had a horrible year in Atlanta, blah, blah, blah and he was a bad influence on Cano blah, blah, blah. You can't have it both ways. The 3 years is up and melky has had 2 consecutive years of batting over .300...meanwhile what did Javier Vazquez ever do for the Yankees?

Aug 4, 2012 -- 9:19AM, 61in61 wrote:

You know what's funny? How many times have posters here said you have to wait 3 years to judge a trade? OK, its 3 years down the road on the Melky trade and people are making excuses about how the trade was 3 years ago, blah, blah, blah, and he had a horrible year in Atlanta, blah, blah, blah and he was a bad influence on Cano blah, blah, blah. You can't have it both ways. The 3 years is up and melky has had 2 consecutive years of batting over .300...meanwhile what did Javier Vazquez ever do for the Yankees?

I think many people feel that while Melky may have always had this talent in him, it was the wake up call that finally brought it out.  I certainly feel that's likely the case, or it's an incredible coincidence.  If the Yankees kept Melky, it's very possible that he never becomes this player.  He's going to get paid now.  Let's see what happens.  You can't deny that you'd have to have this in the back of your mind if you're the GM that signs him to big money/ multiple years.

I guess I'm not willing to call it a bad trade, because I'm not sure he would ever have done this for the Yankees.  Your opinion may be different.  We'll probably never know.  If he goes and signs a big contract and then tanks though, we can safely draw conclusions.

Aug 4, 2012 -- 9:34AM, Stratocaster wrote:

Aug 4, 2012 -- 9:19AM, 61in61 wrote:

You know what's funny? How many times have posters here said you have to wait 3 years to judge a trade? OK, its 3 years down the road on the Melky trade and people are making excuses about how the trade was 3 years ago, blah, blah, blah, and he had a horrible year in Atlanta, blah, blah, blah and he was a bad influence on Cano blah, blah, blah. You can't have it both ways. The 3 years is up and melky has had 2 consecutive years of batting over .300...meanwhile what did Javier Vazquez ever do for the Yankees?

I think many people feel that while Melky may have always had this talent in him, it was the wake up call that finally brought it out. I certainly feel that's likely the case, or it's an incredible coincidence. If the Yankees kept Melky, it's very possible that he never becomes this player. He's going to get paid now. Let's see what happens. You can't deny that you'd have to have this in the back of your mind if you're the GM that signs him to big money/ multiple years. I guess I'm not willing to call it a bad trade, because I'm not sure he would ever have done this for the Yankees. Your opinion may be different. We'll probably never know. If he goes and signs a big contract and then tanks though, we can safely draw conclusions.

Then with that argument you can't call any trade "bad". You can't know if Jay Buhner would have done as well if he had stayed in NY either.

Aug 4, 2012 -- 9:58AM, Stratocaster wrote:

Aug 4, 2012 -- 9:51AM, 61in61 wrote:

Aug 4, 2012 -- 9:34AM, Stratocaster wrote:

Aug 4, 2012 -- 9:19AM, 61in61 wrote:

You know what's funny? How many times have posters here said you have to wait 3 years to judge a trade? OK, its 3 years down the road on the Melky trade and people are making excuses about how the trade was 3 years ago, blah, blah, blah, and he had a horrible year in Atlanta, blah, blah, blah and he was a bad influence on Cano blah, blah, blah. You can't have it both ways. The 3 years is up and melky has had 2 consecutive years of batting over .300...meanwhile what did Javier Vazquez ever do for the Yankees?

I think many people feel that while Melky may have always had this talent in him, it was the wake up call that finally brought it out. I certainly feel that's likely the case, or it's an incredible coincidence. If the Yankees kept Melky, it's very possible that he never becomes this player. He's going to get paid now. Let's see what happens. You can't deny that you'd have to have this in the back of your mind if you're the GM that signs him to big money/ multiple years. I guess I'm not willing to call it a bad trade, because I'm not sure he would ever have done this for the Yankees. Your opinion may be different. We'll probably never know. If he goes and signs a big contract and then tanks though, we can safely draw conclusions.

Then with that argument you can't call any trade "bad" because. You can't know if Jay Buhner would have done as well if he had stayed in NY.

I don't recall Buhner having issues with work ethic, but who knows. In any case, I'm not going to go round and round on this, because I just don't think it's important to begin with. Every individual situation and decision is unique. This banging on some perceived message board "establishment" is getting old though. It seems to me like more and more threads are being twisted to serve this agenda.

I'm not sure what you are getting at here. The thread was about whether or not the Melky trade could be considered one of the worst Yankee trades. I was just comparing it to the Buhner trade since that has been the perceived worst trade in Yankee history.