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5 years ago  ::  Dec 04, 2012 - 4:39PM #11
ArtVandelay
Posts: 28,403

Dec 4, 2012 -- 2:29PM, 61in61 wrote:


I don't think there really is a cliff.


Plus, I don't really care.




so you're rich or you're on welfare....  there's another choice but I'm going to be nice from now on!

5 years ago  ::  Dec 04, 2012 - 5:25PM #12
zzdogg
Posts: 1,178

Dec 4, 2012 -- 1:33PM, ArtVandelay wrote:


Dec 4, 2012 -- 12:30PM, GottaGoToMo wrote:


Dec 4, 2012 -- 12:08PM, MAX wrote:


Dec 4, 2012 -- 9:09AM, GottaGoToMo wrote:


I can feel the edge of this cliff getting closer and closer.


My money is that they go over it ... a lot easier for the Republicans to vote for tax cuts in January, than it is for them to vote for tax increases on anyone in December.





BINGO! Some (R) after the election woke up and came out on the side of the voters. But there are still some (R) that are still scared of Grover.




The tea party backed Congressmen/women know they have to get re-elected!





sounds like a weak president to me...  he had 4 years and got away with blaming someone else, now he has 4 more years and he still is playing the blame game...  what makes anyone here think that this guy will actually lead and make compromises? - you all got what you voted for, enjoy!




if the 2%(so called JOB CREATORS) had created jobs instead of holding out for larger tax cuts, the base would have been expanded and the bush tax cuts probably would have been extended,they've had 10 years, but nooooo they chose rather to believe the FOX, RASMUSSEN,and the ART(i'll never post here again)VANDERLAY POLLS and LOST. So tell me why POTUS should compromise, in 27 days their money is ours to SPEND ,SPEND,SPEND.word to wise art  start looking for govt.affordable housing now. but seriously welcome back art we libtards missed you

5 years ago  ::  Dec 04, 2012 - 6:33PM #13
newinn
Posts: 28,464

Dec 4, 2012 -- 1:33PM, ArtVandelay wrote:


Dec 4, 2012 -- 12:30PM, GottaGoToMo wrote:


Dec 4, 2012 -- 12:08PM, MAX wrote:


Dec 4, 2012 -- 9:09AM, GottaGoToMo wrote:


I can feel the edge of this cliff getting closer and closer.


My money is that they go over it ... a lot easier for the Republicans to vote for tax cuts in January, than it is for them to vote for tax increases on anyone in December.





BINGO! Some (R) after the election woke up and came out on the side of the voters. But there are still some (R) that are still scared of Grover.




The tea party backed Congressmen/women know they have to get re-elected!





sounds like a weak president to me...  he had 4 years and got away with blaming someone else, now he has 4 more years and he still is playing the blame game...  what makes anyone here think that this guy will actually lead and make compromises? - you all got what you voted for, enjoy!





You're guys aren't being very reasonable either. What sense does it make to offer up a plan that they lost the election on?


By the way, I'm glad you came back.

5 years ago  ::  Dec 04, 2012 - 9:22PM #14
61in61
Posts: 26,115

Dec 4, 2012 -- 4:39PM, ArtVandelay wrote:


Dec 4, 2012 -- 2:29PM, 61in61 wrote:


I don't think there really is a cliff.


Plus, I don't really care.




so you're rich or you're on welfare....  there's another choice but I'm going to be nice from now on!




I'm not rich nor on welfare. I just don't give a rat's ass.

5 years ago  ::  Dec 05, 2012 - 12:15PM #15
louisiana_lightning
Posts: 9,055

Dec 4, 2012 -- 6:33PM, newinn wrote:



You're guys aren't being very reasonable either. What sense does it make to offer up a plan that they lost the election on?


By the way, I'm glad you came back.




The election doesn't change economic realities.  We don't have a revenue problem, we have a spending problem.  Anything we do or don't do will have both short term and long term consequneces.  What will have a far greater impact on the economy than the fiscal cliff occuring or being avoided is how it is reported to the public.  Markets will turn on a dime depending on how reporters treat the story even if the investors know that the stories are bs because nobody wants to be caught with their pants down.  The media often temporarily makes perception reality but only until the truth catches up.

5 years ago  ::  Dec 05, 2012 - 12:33PM #16
ArtVandelay
Posts: 28,403

Dec 4, 2012 -- 9:22PM, 61in61 wrote:


Dec 4, 2012 -- 4:39PM, ArtVandelay wrote:


Dec 4, 2012 -- 2:29PM, 61in61 wrote:


I don't think there really is a cliff.


Plus, I don't really care.




so you're rich or you're on welfare....  there's another choice but I'm going to be nice from now on!




I'm not rich nor on welfare. I just don't give a rat's ass.





that's what an Obama America does...  it removes hope from the hard working middle class....  I hear ya pal, sometimes I feel like just kicking back, giving up and collecting welfare...  but then I'd miss my vacations!

5 years ago  ::  Dec 05, 2012 - 1:11PM #17
MAX
Posts: 34,279

Dec 5, 2012 -- 12:15PM, louisiana_lightning wrote:


Dec 4, 2012 -- 6:33PM, newinn wrote:



You're guys aren't being very reasonable either. What sense does it make to offer up a plan that they lost the election on?


By the way, I'm glad you came back.




The election doesn't change economic realities.  We don't have a revenue problem, we have a spending problem.





Because taxes were cut at the same time that are troops were fighting two wars, we have both a spending and revenue problem.

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5 years ago  ::  Dec 05, 2012 - 1:14PM #18
61in61
Posts: 26,115

Dec 5, 2012 -- 12:33PM, ArtVandelay wrote:


Dec 4, 2012 -- 9:22PM, 61in61 wrote:


Dec 4, 2012 -- 4:39PM, ArtVandelay wrote:


Dec 4, 2012 -- 2:29PM, 61in61 wrote:


I don't think there really is a cliff.


Plus, I don't really care.




so you're rich or you're on welfare....  there's another choice but I'm going to be nice from now on!




I'm not rich nor on welfare. I just don't give a rat's ass.





that's what an Obama America does...  it removes hope from the hard working middle class....  I hear ya pal, sometimes I feel like just kicking back, giving up and collecting welfare...  but then I'd miss my vacations!




See...LOL. When I was groing up we heated the house on wood, and didn't have a telephone or TV or vacations.  I don't remember being unhappy. There were so many other things to be happy about: Fresh food from the garden, homemade bread, milk straight from the cow; all the things that people pay a premium for now. Heck, I had organic vegetables and eggs and meat everyday. Now people pay 10 times what they are worth for that stuff.

5 years ago  ::  Dec 05, 2012 - 1:23PM #19
louisiana_lightning
Posts: 9,055

Dec 5, 2012 -- 1:11PM, MAX wrote:


Dec 5, 2012 -- 12:15PM, louisiana_lightning wrote:


Dec 4, 2012 -- 6:33PM, newinn wrote:



You're guys aren't being very reasonable either. What sense does it make to offer up a plan that they lost the election on?


By the way, I'm glad you came back.




The election doesn't change economic realities.  We don't have a revenue problem, we have a spending problem.





Because taxes were cut at the same time that are troops were fighting two wars, we have both a spending and revenue problem.




The wars are only one piece of this, we would still be unsustainable if they had not occured, it just would have taken longer.  The deficits and debt are a regressive tax on any that holds US currency and it compounds exponentially until we begin to address it.

5 years ago  ::  Dec 05, 2012 - 2:47PM #20
MAX
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