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Gun Control Bill Moves Through NY State Legislature
5 years ago  ::  Jan 24, 2013 - 1:10PM #81
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Jan 23, 2013 -- 9:16PM, 61in61 wrote:

Jan 23, 2013 -- 1:13PM, Max wrote:

Jan 22, 2013 -- 6:11PM, 61in61 wrote:

Jan 22, 2013 -- 3:28PM, Max wrote:


Jan 22, 2013 -- 1:59PM, 61in61 wrote:

Jan 22, 2013 -- 12:13PM, Max wrote:

Jan 22, 2013 -- 11:49AM, 61in61 wrote:

Jan 21, 2013 -- 11:55PM, bran wrote:

im pretty sure all the criminals in new york will definitely follow the new law  and get rid of their 30 shot magazines, since criminals are great at following the law!

New York has had very strict laws for many years. It hasn't stopped people from getting guns and using them. The same goes for Detroit, Washington, D.C. and most large metro areas.

Those gun laws made NYC one of the safest big cities in America. It would be even safer if they could stop guns from out of state from getting here. That's not my opinion, it's from a NYPD study. Most of the guns come from  Virginia. A state with weak gun laws. Any guesses where the NRA is based?

Those gun laws didn't do a thing. Every major city has tough gun laws.  What made NYC safer was a crackdown on ALL crime, plus periodic sweeps of high crime areas under Rudy's boot heels. Police would routinely sweep neighborhoods taking "suspects" and people with criminal records into custody for 24 hrs and then releasing them. Guess what? When the suspects were locked up the crime rate went down. Eventually a lot of the criminal element decided that NYC wasn't fun anymore so they moved to Newark and Philly.

Sorry 61 but your post is not totally accurate. New gun laws will stop and or make it harder for people like the lowlife in the link below.

He wasn't supposed to have guns under the current laws.

That's the point, and why universal background checks are needed.

No its not the point at all. He was issued a permit which means they did check him. The necessary information wan't available to those people who needed it.  The article was very clear on that issue.

His background check was flawed. It's exactly the point of why we need new gun laws and improved background checks. As per the article. Check out the last sentence.

 they realized the convicted criminal was allowed to get a gun permit without raising any red flags because the Minnesota Bureau of Criminal Apprehension (BCA) didn't have a fingerprint card from his 1995 murder and there was no case disposition. Carver County Chief Deputy Jason Kamerud told the Herald-Journal that "any purchasing of guns by him was never legal but it was possible because the disqualifiers weren't in place."

The BCA claims it never received the proper records after Oberender killed his mother.

"The BCA relies on entities in the criminal justice system to provide data on an individual which then populates the individual's criminal history," the department said in a statement to KARE 11. "There were no data submitted to the BCA about this individual - without it there can be no record."

Oberender isn't the first person disqualified from owning a gun who obtained one anyway. The federal database used for gun background checks may be missing millions of records on people with mental illnesses who are forbidden from owning guns, according to a recent New York Times report.

On Wednesday, President Obama revealed his plan to curb gun violence in the wake of the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting. The legislation would require mandatory background checks for all gun purchases, a ban on assault weapons and improved access to mental health care.

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