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Gone too soon - Bernie Williams
6 years ago  ::  Sep 01, 2013 - 2:43PM #1
3rdbasemn
Posts: 113
Derek Jeter just passed the great Bernie Williams on the Yankees all time RBI list.   How great was Bernie?  
Derek Jeter had to play an approximately additional 5 years to tie Bernie.   I'll never understand why the Yankees forced Bernie to retire.   The only complaint in his final two years was that his arm was weak.   He still had speed, and could hit.   Possibly the best clutch hitter in the last 50 years for the NYY. 

During his tenure with the Yankees, the Yankees had 4 rings.  Bernie was the reason for those rings. 
6 years ago  ::  Sep 01, 2013 - 2:46PM #2
nystripes2
Posts: 6,287

Bernie was pretty much done.. one of my favorites, but come on I'm glad he retired when he did.

6 years ago  ::  Sep 01, 2013 - 2:50PM #3
JonahFalcon
Posts: 25,531

Bernie was NOT the reason for those rings. Check his postseason stats for one. For another, there are 25 men on a team, and Mariano, Jeter, O'Neill etc were more a key than he was.

6 years ago  ::  Sep 01, 2013 - 2:51PM #4
61in61
Posts: 26,516

Sep 1, 2013 -- 2:43PM, 3rdbasemn wrote:

Derek Jeter just passed the great Bernie Williams on the Yankees all time RBI list.   How great was Bernie?  
Derek Jeter had to play an approximately additional 5 years to tie Bernie.   I'll never understand why the Yankees forced Bernie to retire.   The only complaint in his final two years was that his arm was weak.   He still had speed, and could hit.   Possibly the best clutch hitter in the last 50 years for the NYY. 

During his tenure with the Yankees, the Yankees had 4 rings.  Bernie was the reason for those rings. 



The Yankees extended Bernie an invitation to Spring Training in 2007 to compete for a job,  but, he declined because he wanted a guaranteed contract.

6 years ago  ::  Sep 01, 2013 - 2:58PM #5
YankeeLoon
Posts: 17,903
7 minutes ago by JonahFalcon
Bernie was NOT the reason for those rings. Check his postseason stats for one. For another, there are 25 men on a team, and Mariano, Jeter, O'Neill etc were more a key than he was.



Your idiocy knows no borders
6 years ago  ::  Sep 01, 2013 - 3:00PM #6
YankeeLoon
Posts: 17,903
15 minutes ago by 3rdbasemn
Derek Jeter just passed the great Bernie Williams on the Yankees all time RBI list.   How great was Bernie?   
Derek Jeter had to play an approximately additional 5 years to tie Bernie.   I'll never understand why the Yankees forced Bernie to retire.   The only complaint in his final two years was that his arm was weak.   He still had speed, and could hit.   Possibly the best clutch hitter in the last 50 years for the NYY. 



Bernie was a cleanup hitter.  Jeter has always been a table setter.  Your well meaning logic is faulty and you need to learn a lot more about this game. Stay away from Jinah.  He knows jack sht about this game or anything.
6 years ago  ::  Sep 01, 2013 - 3:02PM #7
ArtVandelay
Posts: 34,732

Sep 1, 2013 -- 3:00PM, YankeeLoon wrote:

15 minutes ago by 3rdbasemn Derek Jeter just passed the great Bernie Williams on the Yankees all time RBI list. How great was Bernie? Derek Jeter had to play an approximately additional 5 years to tie Bernie. I'll never understand why the Yankees forced Bernie to retire. The only complaint in his final two years was that his arm was weak. He still had speed, and could hit. Possibly the best clutch hitter in the last 50 years for the NYY. Bernie was a cleanup hitter. Jeter has always been a table setter. Your well meaning logic is faulty and you need to learn a lot more about this game. Stay away from Jinah. He knows jack sht about this game or anything.



correct, for Jeter it's about the runs he scores and the million other things he does that don't show up on a box score...

6 years ago  ::  Sep 01, 2013 - 3:06PM #8
3rdbasemn
Posts: 113

That invitation was an insult.   He deserved a guaranteed contract.  The prior year, was the one year extension to the original contract.  However the Yankees cancelled the contract and forced a re-negotiation where he got half of what the extension was to be.    The  Yankees put the screws to Bernie. 


Not quite the same, but the Yankees also pre-maturely ended Jorge Posada's career.  I recall Giradi in an interview saying (paraphrasing) "I was a catcher.  And I know at this age a catcher's career is done".  That same day, in a separate interview Jorge had tears in his eyes as he said "my career isn't done".  At the time Jorge was throwing out batters left and right.  He was also hitting well.   But I digress.  Back to Bernie.


Bernie was hitting well.  He was hitting over 300 when the Yankees got a replacement right fielder.  Bernie then played sporadically and his BA plumbited.    Bernie was not done by any means.  Maybe he had enough money and simply wanted to play with his guitar.  I prefer to see it this way.

6 years ago  ::  Sep 01, 2013 - 3:20PM #9
canoera
Posts: 868

Sheesh, the thread title shocked me! Thought Bernie had a heart attack or something!

6 years ago  ::  Sep 01, 2013 - 4:27PM #10
newinn
Posts: 33,592

Sep 1, 2013 -- 2:50PM, JonahFalcon wrote:


Bernie was NOT the reason for those rings. Check his postseason stats for one. For another, there are 25 men on a team, and Mariano, Jeter, O'Neill etc were more a key than he was.





It was time for Bernie to go but to complain about Bernies post season play is complete idiocy. I mean you have got to be kidding with this post

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