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6 years ago  ::  Dec 12, 2013 - 11:04PM #31
AceMitchell
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Dec 12, 2013 -- 11:01PM, nystripes2 wrote:


Dec 12, 2013 -- 10:59PM, AceMitchell wrote:


Dec 12, 2013 -- 10:48PM, nystripes2 wrote:


Dec 12, 2013 -- 10:45PM, AceMitchell wrote:


Dec 12, 2013 -- 10:40PM, nystripes2 wrote:


Dec 12, 2013 -- 10:37PM, AceMitchell wrote:


Dec 12, 2013 -- 10:05PM, Yankees wrote:


This all could of been avoided if they did away with their silly policies.




They won't because they don't understand baseball has changed and still cling to old policies. I understand not wanting to extend a player that's not worth it like Hughes or Joba but when it comes to players with a long track record lock them up. You avoid the free agent bs and the player gets a good contract. It's a win for both sides. When the next great Yankee prospect comes up in 10-15 yrs will they wait for him to be a free agent to lock him up. 




Derek Jeter back in 2000 was going to be a lot cheaper of a contract (though it actually


worked out for the most part for both parties), until Arod signed the biggest deal in history, then Yankees had to pay for Jeter more than they would have, Bernie the same thing, Rivera, Pettitte left for Houston, it can go on and on.




Yep you can come up with a ton of examples. Ppl forget Jeter's contract was based off onwhat A-rod signed for. 



You're right though his deal worked out. 




now if they're Free Agents they want?.. Yankees go all out to get them, and make them a priority and don't really do anything else until they get that person, CC, Burnett, Tex, Giambi, Sheffield, etc. etc etc.





Exactly when it's players they want it's nothing but roses and sweet nothings in their ear. This was different from Cano. I think both sides dug in the sand and didn't move. Cano stated early on no discounts and the Yankees stated he's not a miust sign or anything like that. Both sides let emotions get in the business




in the end both are at fault IMO. whatever it is, what it is.. Cashman at least had a much better backup plan than he did at the end of the 2003 season when we lost both Roger and Andy.





True they were aggressive and didn't sit and wait. 

To anyone going through a difficult time right now  remember someone always has it worse.
6 years ago  ::  Dec 13, 2013 - 12:04AM #32
dixieyank
Posts: 5,844

You two should get a room.....

6 years ago  ::  Dec 13, 2013 - 12:06AM #33
doubleplay643
Posts: 6,115

Just like the daily A-Rod articles, I just don't care anymore about it. 

6 years ago  ::  Dec 13, 2013 - 12:34AM #34
Bats
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Dec 12, 2013 -- 10:16PM, nystripes2 wrote:


Dec 12, 2013 -- 10:15PM, YankeeLoon wrote:

6 minutes ago by nystripes2 whatever im so sick of both parties on this. Cano asked for the moon, and the Yankees barely offered him.any more than Ellsbury, both screwed up " Yea the Yankees were SO cheap!! You're a fool.



overall the offer was not "cheap".. I said its cheap when you factor in they offered Ellsbury not much less. (7/153)




WHAT?


It's called negotiations. 


THEY WERE THE ONES, who came up with 10 years at $310. What were the Yankees to do? Say "duhhhh....how about 10 years at $290? NO....they told Cano, "You're not worth more than David Wright, a middle of the order lineup infielder.....BUT we'll pay you alot more than him" and they did with the 7/153.  That's not respect? Now,...when two parties have two totally different figures operating under the same goal (which was supposed to be Cano wearing pinstripes), they are supposed to find middle ground? Did they? NO, because Jay-Z/Cano was not interested to find middle ground.  Obviously that wasn't Jay-Z's intention.  The funny thing is.....NO baseball team was gonna for it. Then when one did, Cano and Jay-Z hopped on a plane and never looked back. 


Cashman was right, Cano was all about the money, which is fine by me. Just don't blame the Yankees on this.

6 years ago  ::  Dec 13, 2013 - 12:46AM #35
Bats
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Dec 12, 2013 -- 10:05PM, Yankees wrote:


This all could of been avoided if they did away with their silly policies.




Are you kidding? In this case, it wouldn't have mattered if you listened to Cano.


If I remember correctly, In 2011 Cano dumped his first agent to go with the most shrewdest one in the majors, Scott Boras. If that didn't tell you that it was all about the money, it should have. With all this talk about "respect" and "last contract" in his Cano's press conference today, it makes me wonder what kind of extension was he looking for back in 2011.....a twelve year extension?


The truth is...I am cool with Cano going off to Seattle. Just don't blame the Yankees on this. They gave him a ridiculous offer at 22+ mil per year...and even INCREASED IT to 25 mil!  LOL...25 mil per year for a player with no MVP awards and no individual batting titles at all. (Kinda like Ellsbury)

6 years ago  ::  Dec 13, 2013 - 12:57AM #36
Yankees
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Dec 12, 2013 -- 10:32PM, 78Bombers wrote:


Dec 12, 2013 -- 10:05PM, Yankees wrote:


This all could of been avoided if they did away with their silly policies.




I'm so glad that we didn't avoid it.  Now the team can go forward and Cano can grow a beard like Popi.  He's happy, Yankee fans are happy and you...well you don't seem like you are ever happy. 




It'a a win-win Downer!




You don't know anything about me so stop pretending you do.


I like the Beltran and McCann signings, the Ellsbury one was a desperation move.


They have no infield. So far their infield consists of a SS (who is really a DH) whos best days are in the past, a 1b who has trouble staying healthy and a 3b who we have no idea if he will be banned or allowed to play.  To sum it up, our infield aside from McCann is one huge question mark.  So no I am not going to sit back and pretend the Yankees are a better team than they were last year right now because they aren't.  You guys can sit back and drink the kool aid and act as if the Cano loss isn't significant while I sit back and hope the Yanks have something up their sleeve.  

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6 years ago  ::  Dec 13, 2013 - 1:50AM #37
scottsdaleyankee
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I hate that he left for Seattle BUT the Yankees did the right thing by not getting stuck with another A-Rod contract. The thing I ask myself is who is going to replace his bat?  There is no one on the current constructed roster that is as good of player as he is and there is no one headed up from the minors that shows that they can fill his shoes.


One last thing, I hope Cano knows that his "Brand" is not the same being a Mariner. Of course, maybe he can be the new spokesperson for Starbucks!

6 years ago  ::  Dec 13, 2013 - 4:13AM #38
YankeeLoon
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So it's settled. All sane, thinking fans are happy the yanks did the right thing and didn't overpay a non superstar who put up nice numbers but certainly not great ones. The franchise is better off not keeping a lazy selfish wannabe at $175M over 7 years (a ridiculously generous offer to begin with),

And the other three of you are lost but probably teens who refuse to get a job.
6 years ago  ::  Dec 13, 2013 - 5:15AM #39
doubleplay643
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Respect to others is $$$ ... Respect to me means the team showing interest in wanting you. Making sure they go out of their way to tell you they want you. The Yankees ever since the Cano contract came up said they would discuss a contract with him, even before free agency began, which they don't normally do with their players. 


Of course the Yankees are not going to want to talk to Cano about a 10 year, 300+ mil contract, they probably all fell off their chairs laughing. Girardi did everything to make sure Cano was in the best position he could be to get the most at-bats and be front and center of this Yankee team while chit was going downhill last season. When the Yanks needed Cano to step up, carry the team for a few weeks, he wasn't nowhere to be seen. 


I won't deny his talent but it's the stuff in between his ears that gets in his way at times that holds him back. I do not blame Cano for going for the money, it's his right but don't start making stupid statements of the Yankees not respecting your sorry a$$ because they didn't pay him 10 years, 241 mil. That's just bogus and loses points in my book of him. 


The smear campaign was an easy out for Cano, Jay - Z and CAA when Cano got that contract from the Mariners. They sent out reports saying "Well, we offered the Yanks "options" of 8 , 9 or 10 years. I call bull. They weren't going to take anything less than what the Mariners gave him. How many times have we heard Cano was going to go for the most money possible? A few times actually. Once before the offseason started and a couple more times just before he signed with the Mariners. 


The Yankees were fighting a losing battle before the offseason even began. What did Cano want the Yankees to do? Kiss his butt and tell him what a pretty boy he is? The word respect needs to be revaluated because most players in baseball don't know what that word actually means. 

6 years ago  ::  Dec 13, 2013 - 7:31AM #40
AceMitchell
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Dec 13, 2013 -- 5:15AM, doubleplay643 wrote:


Respect to others is $$$ ... Respect to me means the team showing interest in wanting you. Making sure they go out of their way to tell you they want you. The Yankees ever since the Cano contract came up said they would discuss a contract with him, even before free agency began, which they don't normally do with their players. 


Of course the Yankees are not going to want to talk to Cano about a 10 year, 300+ mil contract, they probably all fell off their chairs laughing. Girardi did everything to make sure Cano was in the best position he could be to get the most at-bats and be front and center of this Yankee team while chit was going downhill last season. When the Yanks needed Cano to step up, carry the team for a few weeks, he wasn't nowhere to be seen. 


I won't deny his talent but it's the stuff in between his ears that gets in his way at times that holds him back. I do not blame Cano for going for the money, it's his right but don't start making stupid statements of the Yankees not respecting your sorry a$$ because they didn't pay him 10 years, 241 mil. That's just bogus and loses points in my book of him. 


The smear campaign was an easy out for Cano, Jay - Z and CAA when Cano got that contract from the Mariners. They sent out reports saying "Well, we offered the Yanks "options" of 8 , 9 or 10 years. I call bull. They weren't going to take anything less than what the Mariners gave him. How many times have we heard Cano was going to go for the most money possible? A few times actually. Once before the offseason started and a couple more times just before he signed with the Mariners. 


The Yankees were fighting a losing battle before the offseason even began. What did Cano want the Yankees to do? Kiss his butt and tell him what a pretty boy he is? The word respect needs to be revaluated because most players in baseball don't know what that word actually means. 




True Cano could have handled it differently. I think at a certain point he let his emotions get the best of him. The more I think about this the more I feel the relationship between Robbie and the FO hit a rough patch at some point and the break up was inevitable 


I guess like many players Cano wanted to feel wanted. I know it sounds crazy because it's a kid's game but all these guys have egos that need to be stroke. Even before the off season started the Yankees seemed half hearted when it came to Cano. Maybe they knew all along he was gone but it did feel like they were not interested in bringing back. As Stripes mentioned compare that with a player they really want and it's completely different. 

To anyone going through a difficult time right now  remember someone always has it worse.
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