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A Trade Idea for the Yankees
7 years ago  ::  Feb 28, 2014 - 9:16AM #1
Yankeeman04
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The Arizona Diamondbacks have 2 young short stops on their roster fighting for one position. Didi Gregorius is the incumbent shortstop out there for the snakes. They have another young kid, Chris Owings who is battling to take the job. One of them is going to win the job and what happens with the other one?


Well, Kevin Towers has already come out and said he'd be open to trading a shortstop for a young catcher.


Hmm, well the Yankees have signed Brian McCann to a 5 year deal so the catching position is set for a while and we clearly have a need at shortstop going forward.


How would you feel if the Yankees traded, say Gary Sanchez for either of the young shortstops? Gregorious is a defensive wizard, Owings has more of a power bat I believe but either could be an answer at shortstop for years.

7 years ago  ::  Feb 28, 2014 - 9:45AM #2
laurenfrances
Posts: 39,680

Feb 28, 2014 -- 9:16AM, Yankeeman04 wrote:


The Arizona Diamondbacks have 2 young short stops on their roster fighting for one position. Didi Gregorius is the incumbent shortstop out there for the snakes. They have another young kid, Chris Owings who is battling to take the job. One of them is going to win the job and what happens with the other one?


Well, Kevin Towers has already come out and said he'd be open to trading a shortstop for a young catcher.


Hmm, well the Yankees have signed Brian McCann to a 5 year deal so the catching position is set for a while and we clearly have a need at shortstop going forward.


How would you feel if the Yankees traded, say Gary Sanchez for either of the young shortstops? Gregorious is a defensive wizard, Owings has more of a power bat I believe but either could be an answer at shortstop for years.




If Gregorious is a defensive wizard, why trade for him if Brendan Ryan is exactly that?  

7 years ago  ::  Feb 28, 2014 - 10:17AM #3
hampfan
Posts: 3,610

Feb 28, 2014 -- 9:45AM, laurenfrances wrote:


Feb 28, 2014 -- 9:16AM, Yankeeman04 wrote:


The Arizona Diamondbacks have 2 young short stops on their roster fighting for one position. Didi Gregorius is the incumbent shortstop out there for the snakes. They have another young kid, Chris Owings who is battling to take the job. One of them is going to win the job and what happens with the other one?


Well, Kevin Towers has already come out and said he'd be open to trading a shortstop for a young catcher.


Hmm, well the Yankees have signed Brian McCann to a 5 year deal so the catching position is set for a while and we clearly have a need at shortstop going forward.


How would you feel if the Yankees traded, say Gary Sanchez for either of the young shortstops? Gregorious is a defensive wizard, Owings has more of a power bat I believe but either could be an answer at shortstop for years.




If Gregorious is a defensive wizard, why trade for him if Brendan Ryan is exactly that?  




I wouldn't trade either Murphy or Sanchez for "either of the young shortstops"; same goes w/ a possible trade for one of the White Sox's possibles. Cervelli or Romine (possibly adding Warren to the mix), yes; but not Murphy or Sanchez. If one of the latter is what Towers wants, sorry, no dice.

7 years ago  ::  Feb 28, 2014 - 11:00AM #4
NW
Posts: 13,163

I would trade any of Cervelli, Romine, or Murphy in a deal for one of the young shortstops.  Gregorious would probably come cheaper as he has an average bat and average defense but I'd have no issue trading a package for Owings.

7 years ago  ::  Feb 28, 2014 - 11:43AM #5
BigGuy
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I'm not trading Sanchez.  

"Leave the gun. Take the cannoli."
7 years ago  ::  Feb 28, 2014 - 11:44AM #6
NW
Posts: 13,163

Feb 28, 2014 -- 11:43AM, BigGuy wrote:


I'm not trading Sanchez.  




This why I didn't list Sanchez in the ones that I would trade.

7 years ago  ::  Feb 28, 2014 - 11:51AM #7
yank0428
Posts: 18,446

Feb 28, 2014 -- 11:00AM, NW wrote:


I would trade any of Cervelli, Romine, or Murphy in a deal for one of the young shortstops.  Gregorious would probably come cheaper as he has an average bat and average defense but I'd have no issue trading a package for Owings.




NW from what I have read of both players Owings has more upside and is thought of more highly. I don't recall seeing either play.With Ryan on board for his defense I would rather go for the better bat in Owings. Knowing Towers he would want more the just a catcher. What are your thoughts on what kind of package it would take to get him he if he is available? I have a feeling it will be Gregorious who is more likely to be traded.

7 years ago  ::  Feb 28, 2014 - 12:01PM #8
NW
Posts: 13,163

Feb 28, 2014 -- 11:51AM, yank0428 wrote:


Feb 28, 2014 -- 11:00AM, NW wrote:


I would trade any of Cervelli, Romine, or Murphy in a deal for one of the young shortstops.  Gregorious would probably come cheaper as he has an average bat and average defense but I'd have no issue trading a package for Owings.




NW from what I have read of both players Owings has more upside and is thought of more highly. I don't recall seeing either play.With Ryan on board for his defense I would rather go for the better bat in Owings. Knowing Towers he would want more the just a catcher. What are your thoughts on what kind of package it would take to get him he if he is available? I have a feeling it will be Gregorious who is more likely to be traded.




Towers is a good GM but a fair GM and he knows the Yankees system pretty well.  He is looking for a catcher who can back up Montero and probably someone who could catch during interleague play regularly and allow Montero a few days at DH.  Outside of Sanchez, who I call untouchable, I think John Ryan Murphy is the best prospect among the others, although Cervelli is more MLB ready, but also out of options.  I'd start the package with Murphy and then ask for what else he wanted.  I think we'd be able to get Owings for a package of Murphy and a near MLB-ready starter/middle reliever, along the lines of Nik Turley (pending his injury status).  Although we don't think a lot of these guys, there have been quite a few that have left the NYY farm and contributed significant innings elsewhere.

7 years ago  ::  Feb 28, 2014 - 12:05PM #9
yank0428
Posts: 18,446

Feb 28, 2014 -- 12:01PM, NW wrote:


Feb 28, 2014 -- 11:51AM, yank0428 wrote:


Feb 28, 2014 -- 11:00AM, NW wrote:


I would trade any of Cervelli, Romine, or Murphy in a deal for one of the young shortstops.  Gregorious would probably come cheaper as he has an average bat and average defense but I'd have no issue trading a package for Owings.




NW from what I have read of both players Owings has more upside and is thought of more highly. I don't recall seeing either play.With Ryan on board for his defense I would rather go for the better bat in Owings. Knowing Towers he would want more the just a catcher. What are your thoughts on what kind of package it would take to get him he if he is available? I have a feeling it will be Gregorious who is more likely to be traded.




Towers is a good GM but a fair GM and he knows the Yankees system pretty well.  He is looking for a catcher who can back up Montero and probably someone who could catch during interleague play regularly and allow Montero a few days at DH.  Outside of Sanchez, who I call untouchable, I think John Ryan Murphy is the best prospect among the others, although Cervelli is more MLB ready, but also out of options.  I'd start the package with Murphy and then ask for what else he wanted.  I think we'd be able to get Owings for a package of Murphy and a near MLB-ready starter/middle reliever, along the lines of Nik Turley (pending his injury status).  Although we don't think a lot of these guys, there have been quite a few that have left the NYY farm and contributed significant innings elsewhere.



I like Murphy but with Sanchez getting closer and McCann here you would think it would be a move Cashman has to consider. A young SS with upside. I thought I read that Owings can also play 2nd. From reading the reports on him he has some tools.

7 years ago  ::  Feb 28, 2014 - 2:35PM #10
hampfan
Posts: 3,610

Feb 28, 2014 -- 12:05PM, yank0428 wrote:


Feb 28, 2014 -- 12:01PM, NW wrote:


Feb 28, 2014 -- 11:51AM, yank0428 wrote:


Feb 28, 2014 -- 11:00AM, NW wrote:


I would trade any of Cervelli, Romine, or Murphy in a deal for one of the young shortstops.  Gregorious would probably come cheaper as he has an average bat and average defense but I'd have no issue trading a package for Owings.




NW from what I have read of both players Owings has more upside and is thought of more highly. I don't recall seeing either play.With Ryan on board for his defense I would rather go for the better bat in Owings. Knowing Towers he would want more the just a catcher. What are your thoughts on what kind of package it would take to get him he if he is available? I have a feeling it will be Gregorious who is more likely to be traded.




Towers is a good GM but a fair GM and he knows the Yankees system pretty well.  He is looking for a catcher who can back up Montero and probably someone who could catch during interleague play regularly and allow Montero a few days at DH.  Outside of Sanchez, who I call untouchable, I think John Ryan Murphy is the best prospect among the others, although Cervelli is more MLB ready, but also out of options.  I'd start the package with Murphy and then ask for what else he wanted.  I think we'd be able to get Owings for a package of Murphy and a near MLB-ready starter/middle reliever, along the lines of Nik Turley (pending his injury status).  Although we don't think a lot of these guys, there have been quite a few that have left the NYY farm and contributed significant innings elsewhere.



I like Murphy but with Sanchez getting closer and McCann here you would think it would be a move Cashman has to consider. A young SS with upside. I thought I read that Owings can also play 2nd. From reading the reports on him he has some tools.




I'll say it again: Murphy has offensive potential greater than Cervelli and possibly even Sanchez (others will disagree abt that last comparison). I wouldn't let Murphy go. He's a homegrown offensive superior--like, if he's not injured, Austin. Here we have everyone trashing our minor league system and yet have a player who can make "them" eat their words. Don't trade JRM! I know everyone's anxious abt our future SS, but let's wait to see who else comes to the top of the post-Jeter list and who won't require anyone better than Cervelli (plus a Warren, say). Just my opinion, of course.

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