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2 years ago  ::  Dec 27, 2016 - 7:41PM #31
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The Yankees Anti-All-Time 25-Man Roster

Last week I took a stab at putting together the Yankees all-time 25-man roster, and it led to quite a bit of strong discussion. The team's history is littered with brilliant players, so it was all but impossible to proceed without leaving off (at least) a few literal Hall of Famers, and much of the debate focused on that. However, Mean Mr. Mustard wondered what the team's worst historical 25-man roster would look like, and I found that infinitely more interesting ... and so here we are.

In the interest of time (and my own sanity), I'm going to limit my search to position players with at least 500 PA as a Yankee, starting pitchers with a minimum of 100 IP, and relievers with 50-plus IP. I'm going to throw out regulars, but I will still focus on building a "modern" roster (that is, two catchers, seven relievers, etc).

And away we go.


Walter Blair (1907-1911)

Blair hit .196/.251/.249 with the Yankees (50 OPS+), accumulating -0.6 bWAR in 652 PA.

Joel Skinner (1986-1988)

Despite having the superior OPS+ - 51 - Skinner was worse than Blair, tying his -0.6 bWAR as a Yankee in 52 fewer PA.


Babe Dahlgren (1937-1940)

Dahlgren was Lou Gehrig's replacement (in name only, of course), and he spent two seasons as the team's everyday first baseman. He posted a 78 OPS+ and -0.6 bWAR in his time in the Bronx.

Stephen Drew (2014-2015)

It seems like just yesterday that Drew was holding down the keystone for the Yankees, hovering around replacement-level and leading us to cry for Rob Refsnyder. His -0.2 bWAR with the team feels a bit high, doesn't it?

Eduardo Nunez (2010-2013)

Nunez with the Yankees: 88 OPS+, -1.6 bWAR (827 PA). Nunez after the Yankees: 100 OPS+, 4.1 bWAR (1012 PA).

Rafael Santana (1988)

Santana hit .240/.289/.294 (65 OPS+) in his lone season in the Bronx, contributing -0.6 bWAR as the team's everyday shortstop.

Johnny Sturm (1941)

Sturm played just one season in the Majors, starting 123 games at first base for the World Series champs. He hit .239/.293/.300 (58 OPS+), and was two wins below replacement along the way.

Enrique Wilson (2001-2004)

Wilson will hold a special place in our hearts forever, as he hit .364/.382/.485 against Pedro Martinez. He also hit .216/.261/.332 (56 OPS+) as a Yankee, and produced -3.0 bWAR due to his awful hitting and subpar glovework.


Cedric Durst (1927-1930)

Durst was dealt to the Red Sox (along with $50,000) for Red Ruffing, and that was the extent of his usefulness to the Yankees.

Hensley Meulens (1989-1993)

In addition to having a plus-plus name (his full name is Hensley Filemon Acasio Meulens), Meulens produced -1.5 bWAR in pinstripes.

Bill Robinson (1967-1969)

Robinson hit just .206/.264/.318 with the Yankees, producing -2.0 bWAR in 351 games. He was surprisingly good after leaving the Bronx, though, posting a 111 OPS+ from 1972 through 1983.

Gary Ward (1987-1989)

Ward posted a 113 OPS+ in his first five full seasons, averaging 3.6 bWAR per year. The Yankees signed him away from the Rangers after that, and received a 78 OPS+ and -0.9 bWAR for their troubles.

Designated Hitter

Ruben Sierra (1995-1996, 2003-2005)

I remembered Sierra being fairly good with the Yankees, largely due to his strong postseason performance (specifically his clutch 3-run home run in game four of the 2004 ALDS). It turns out that my memory is a liar, though, as Sierra hit just .254/.310/.421 (88 OPS+) in New York, with -1.5 bWAR in parts of five seasons.

Starting Pitchers

Chris Capuano (2014-2015)

Capuano split his time between the rotation and the bullpen in the Bronx, and he was slightly less bad as a starter, posting a 5.13 ERA in 79 IP. All told, he was worth -0.9 bWAR in his time with the Yankees.

Andy Hawkins (1989-1991)

Hawkins pitched what may have been the worst no-hitter ever in 1990, taking the loss thanks to 5 walks and a slew of errors. He also had almost as many walks (164) as strikeouts (177) with the Yankees, as well as -2.4 bWAR.

Jeff Johnson (1991-1993)

Johnson has the lowest ERA+ (63) of any pitcher to throw over 100 IP for the Yankees (he had 182.1 IP). He put up -2.5 bWAR, to boot. 

Terry Mulholland (1994)

Mulholland managed -1.0 bWAR in his lone season in New York, thanks to a 71 OPS+ in 120.2 IP.

Jeff Weaver (2002-2003)

My memory fooled me again, as I thought Weaver was substantially worse with the Yankees than his 83 ERA+ and 1.2 bWAR would suggest. There are worse starters in the team's history, but his inclusion feels like a must, given his postseason failures.

Relief Pitchers

Jonathan Albaladejo (2008-2010)

Albaladejo wasn't that bad for the Yankees, pitching to a 4.70 ERA (97 ERA+) in parts of three seasons. However, as was the case with Weaver, I feel that he belongs here, considering that he was acquired in exchange for Tyler Clippard (who has a 143 ERA+ since said trade).

Sean Henn (2005-2007)

I seem to recall Henn being a big deal as a prospect, but I can't find much to support that. My recollection of his awfulness was far more accurate, to the tune of a 60 ERA+ and -1.2 bWAR.

Shawn Kelley (2013-2014)

Kelley has been excellent since leaving the Bronx, but that doesn't wipe away his 88 ERA+ and -0.1 bWAR in pinstripes.

Cuddles Marshall (1946-1949)

Marshall got Ted Williams to ground into a double play in his Major League debut, and it was all downhill from there. He had a 71 ERA+ and -1.4 bWAR with the Yankees.

Lou McEvoy (1930-1931)

McEvoy managed to produce -1.8 bWAR in just 64.2 IP, thanks to a 55 ERA+ and nearly two baserunners per inning.

Sergio Mitre (2009-2011)

Mitre was better than you remember in 2010, posting a 130 ERA+ and 0.9 bWAR in 54 IP. However, he was a Yankee for parts of two additional season, which drag his totals with the team down to an 84 ERA+ and -0.6 bWAR.

Esmil Rogers (2014-2015)

The Yankees tried to make Rogers a thing over parts of two seasons, and it simply never worked. He pitched in Korea last year, after posting a 72 ERA+ and -0.9 bWAR in pinstripes.

13 months ago  ::  Dec 23, 2017 - 10:55AM #32
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Somebody Loved Baseball


William Frawley was such a huge baseball fan – of the New York Yankees no less – that his contract stipulated that he could miss work if the Yankees were playing in a World Series game.

11 months ago  ::  Feb 21, 2018 - 10:52AM #33
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Yankees: All-time greatest 25-man roster

10 months ago  ::  Mar 11, 2018 - 7:47PM #34
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7 months ago  ::  Jun 15, 2018 - 10:08AM #35
Posts: 30,182 | Mark Feinsand: In 1978, Ron Guidry had one of the most memorable seasons for a Yankee pitcher. This was the year of the “Bronx Zoo.” Guidry went 25-3 with a 1.74 ERA across 35 starts. This kind of year is almost unheard of in this day and age. This post is a good read that helps remember Guidry and is extremely dominant season.

7 months ago  ::  Jun 17, 2018 - 9:31AM #36
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Eyewitness Bouton: The Strange 70s of the Yankees’ Prodigal Son

The following is a guest post from Adam Moss, who goes by Roadgeek Adam in the comments. He’s written scores of guest posts at RAB over the years.

Bouton. (Getty)

On this June the 17th, 2018, we have the 72nd Annual Old Timers’ Day. While modern fans will be honoring those like Andy Pettitte, Jason Giambi and Nick Swisher on their first appearance, 79-year Jim Bouton will be possibly making his last appearance in a Yankee uniform. Bouton suffers from cerebral amyloid angiopathy, a disease that causes bleeding within the brain, causing dementia-like symptoms. His grandchildren have never seen Bouton in a Yankee uniform (even in his 1998 appearance at Old Timers’ Day). This may be the last time we see the resident of Great Barrington, Massachusetts in a Yankee uniform and we should treasure him.

For over 25 years, the general belief was that Jim Bouton, “The Prodigal Son” of Yankees baseball, was not allowed at Old Timers’ Day because of his feud with Yankee legend Mickey Mantle. The belief that Bouton had made questionable comments about the slugger in his 1970 book, Ball Four, led to a blacklisting. That rumor held up for many years because of the fact that Bouton did not come to Old Timers’ Day until after Mantle died in 1995. Bouton’s first Old Timers’ Day was 1998. That year, they also invited the 1978 Dodgers to the stadium in a rematch of the 1978 World Series. However, it ended a long departure from Yankee-life for #56.

However, the 1970s were a strange decade for the former 20-game winner. Despite numerous attempts to come back to the game he enjoyed, Bouton went for a different career: Sportscaster. The job in the media opened him to a national stage aside of his pitching in New York during a bad time in Yankees history. Until finally getting the chance in 1978 to return to a pitching mound, Bouton’s life during this time is almost a comedy in itself, unlike the reaction to Ball Four. One he never regretted.

Prodigal Son

For those who may not have lived in the 1960s, it is important to explain who Jim Bouton, the Yankee, was. A native of Newark, New Jersey, James Alan Bouton came to this world on March 8, 1939. Raised as a fan of the New York Giants, baseball was not Bouton’s sport of interest originally. Instead, he wanted to be on the basketball team and/or football team in Bloom Township, Illinois, where his family moved from Northern Jersey in the 1950s. Bouton almost never made the baseball team either, but eventually did. He was slow to start, being a bench arm for his 10th grade year. By his senior season, he was much improved, throwing a no-hitter that year. However, his pitches were very amateur: lots of different styles, but almost no velocity.

Eventually, he developed a knuckleball, and enrolled at Western Michigan University. His sophomore season he got a scholarship and when pitching in an amateur league in 1958, scouts began to look at Bouton. Art Stewart, the protégé scout of Lou Maguolo, signed Jim Bouton in 1958 for $30,000. After working his way through the minors, Bouton finally cracked the major league team out of Spring Training in 1962, Ralph Houk gave him #56 on his back, the first to ever wear that number in a regular season game for the Yankees. #56 would become Bouton’s lone number afterwards to show just how hard he worked to make it to the majors.

Bouton’s best seasons in a Yankee uniform were in 1963 and 1964. In 1963, the Yankees knuckleballer put up a 2.53 ERA as one of the better right-handers behind Whitey Ford. He started 30 games in 1963 and appeared in relief for 10 others. Bouton won 2 games in the 1964 World Series for Yogi Berra against the St. Louis Cardinals, outdueling Curt Simmons twice. The Yankees ended up losing that World Series in seven games as a gassed Mel Stottlemyre lost to Bob Gibson.

In a game against the Baltimore Orioles on June 6, 1963, Bouton nearly had his season ended by a foul ball to the face off the bat of Jackie Brandt. The shot was so powerful that Bouton appeared to have rebounded backwards from the force. He landed on his face in front of 28,000 people, who thought his jaw was broken. Joe Soares, the Yankees athletic trainer, ran with Bouton to Union Memorial Hospital in Baltimore, despite Bouton’s pleas to stay in the game. Bouton had a nasty wound in his jaw, which took 12 stitches to clear. Soares joked with Bouton after “You’ll have to cut down on that smooching now.” He had married his wife in December 1962. Bouton, feeling a little embarrassed for being at the hospital, made his next start on June 10 in the second game of a doubleheader against the Washington Senators. He pitched seven innings and gave up one run (overshadowed by a complete game shutout by Claude Osteen.)

Bouton fell apart after the 1964 season. His arm started flaring up pain. Bouton’s motion was thrown out of whack and as a result, Bouton’s numbers fell apart. He was sent back to Syracuse in 1967 and fell apart farther there. However, the Yankees knuckleballer didn’t give up entering the 1968 season, but the Yankees did. Despite a great Spring Training, Bouton was sent to the Seattle Pilots expansion team for $20,000 (Yankees paid $8,000). Bouton was loved by the media for his openness, which made it easier on them to say positive things about the righty, but Bouton was bad and the Yankees wanted to go with their rotation of Stottlemyre, Bill Monbouquette, Stan Bahnsen, Fritz Peterson and Al Downing over Bouton.

The Pilot’s Author

Now a member of the famous 1969 Seattle Pilots season, playing in Sick’s Stadium, Bouton joined former Yankees Lou Piniella, Steve Barber, Mike Ferraro and Gary Timberlake along with third base coach Frank Crosetti on a new team. It was during this season that Bouton started taking notes about his daily life at his locker and compile everything going on in his life and around him in the Pilots clubhouse. This led to a lot of strain as he would hide his notes so his teammates and coaches would not see him. Multiple times he took shots at Pilots pitching coach Sal Maglie, a former Yankee. Like many of his teammates, he was traded on August 24, 1969 to the Houston Astros for former teammate Dooley Womack and Roric Anderson. 1969 ended up being his last full season, appearing in 73 games as a reliever for the Pirates and the Astros.

He returned to the Astros in 1970 and threw 29 games for the Astros, but sported a 5.40 ERA and released by the club on August 12, 1970. However, in June 1970, the book Ball Four hit bookshelves as the production of Bouton’s daily notes. The 371-page book opened the door into clubhouse life for the Yankees and the Pilots. The book was so popular, by September 1970, it reached to a spot between Up the Organization by Robert Townsend and Inside the Third Reich by historian Albert Speer.

Bowie Kuhn, the Commissioner of Baseball, tried to discredit the book and force Bouton, a noted activist, to recant everything. He did not. Many people in baseball saw it as a betrayal, along with some sportswriters. Dick Young called Bouton and Leonard Shecter, the editor, ‘social lepers’ for the book. The person Bouton was, he released a second book in 1971 called I’m Glad You Didn’t Take it Personally, which was in response to Dick Young’s comments, along with his battles with the Kuhn administration.

Bouton would end up calling it quits in 1970 after his release and that’s where we pick up his story. The ones not really talked about in Ball Four and the regular baseball media.

There Goes the News Van Again

While Jim Bouton was toiling with the Houston Astros during the 1970 season, going up and down between the minors and the majors, another group of people had interest in his services. This group, however, was not one of a baseball franchise. In just its third year of existence, Albert Primo, the director of news broadcasts for WABC-TV in New York City needed a new sportscaster. Howard Cossell, who worked aside of acerbic news legend Roger Grimsby, was the sportscaster for Eyewitness News. Cossell had other things to do, such as Monday Night Football, which became his big project with veteran Keith Thomas. However, Thomas was let go and the job became Cossell’s.

WABC in this time period was last in ratings compared to powerhouses WNBC and WCBS. Al Primo, was brought from KYW-TV in Philadelphia to revamp a middling news show called Roger Grimsby and the Noisemakers. The show was an 11 pm newscast, with a bit of a twist. Everyone on the group was a bit acerbic or maybe the better term, crazy. All of the members of the crew with Grimsby were established people with high egos. Facing against Jim Jensen & Robert Trout of WCBS, WABC sent Howard Cossell as the “Sports Noisemaker”; Tex Antoine as the “Weather Noisemaker”, smock and all; Allan Jefferys as the “Broadway Noisemaker”; Jimmy Breslin as “All-Around Noisemaker”; and Rona Barrett as the “Hollywood Noisemaker”. The group was definitely a raucous mix. They often all fought with Grimsby about his attitude towards them, especially Rona Barrett and Howard Cossell. Cossell once ripped Grimsby live on air after Grimsby went after one another in a series of backhanded comments.

When Primo came in, he had to deal with a lot of mixed personalities. Immediately he set new standards and abandoned the Noisemaker format. Barrett, Grimsby, Antoine and Cossell still thought they could beat to their own drum. Primo immediately asked all members for WABC to start wearing suits and skirts. This offended Tex Antoine, who was famous for wearing a smock on air (and smoking on air during his time at NBC) and his friend Uncle Wethbee. Despite his pleas to keep the look, he followed suit. Rona Barrett disliked having to be in New York for her work, preferring sunny Southern California. That and she was a noted pest to Grimsby (and Primo). One newscast, the acerbic Grimsby went ahead and introduced her with “Speaking of trash, here is Rona Rooter.” The entire studio laughed. Allan Jefferys quit in 1969 after a piece on a Broadway show was removed in favor of a series on prostitution.

In 1970, as Primo was hiring new reporters and new anchors for more broadcasts, Primo hired former New York city-based ABC reporter Bill Beutel to work aside Grimsby. Beutel was the ABC bureau chief in London from 1968 to 1970 and replaced Tom Dunn as the side anchor. He joined Grimsby, Antoine, Melba Tolliver, Bob Lape, Doug Johnson, Gil Noble, John Schubeck, Milt Lewis among others in the new Eyewitness News. This new approach, where reporters would be on-scene to report the news, was a far cry from Noisemakers, where it was just people telling you the news. Ratings skyrocketed. In 1970, Primo also hired Geraldo Rivera, then a member of the Young Lords, a Puerto Rican activist group considered similar to the Black Panthers. He gave Rivera a scholarship to journalism school, as well as dropping the name Jerry Rivers in favor of being the first Puerto Rican on television. The ratings were going up in WABC’s favor in 1970 and 1971 with the new format. Grimsby and Beutel made a great pairing together.

Also, in 1970, Al Primo picked up Jim Bouton to be a sportscaster for WABC. Primo, whose colleagues noted he had a knack for finding raw talent, called Bouton and offered him a position. However, Bouton wanted to focus on baseball first. During the All-Star Break of 1970, Bouton performed an audition for Primo and co, who offered him a five year deal for $40,000 base salary (escalators to $50,000). With the Astros, he basically made $27,000 in 1970. Bouton bombed the audition and decided that the requirement that he would have to quit baseball immediately was not an option he wanted to pursue.

However, after being sent to the minors, Bouton decided to go ahead and take their offer. Bouton was being beaten around in the minors for the Astros. The timing made sense. Instead of the five-year deal, the deal was reduced to one year with a starting salary of $24,000 on the 11 pm news.

Bouton told The New York Times that the adjustment to being a broadcaster over a ballplayer was hard. Never having a job, Bouton had to learn on the job. He learned from old movies about how to be a reporter, but on his first day at WABC, Bouton was put to the test. Denny McLain, a pitcher for the Detroit Tigers, was suspended a second time from baseball. The first time it was for bookmarking operation (also known as sports betting). This time, McLain dumped buckets of water on Jim Hawkins of the Detroit Free Press and Watson Spoelstra of the Detroit News. Bouton, on his first day, looked like a professional, shouting questions towards McLain.

On his first show as the 11 pm sportscaster, Bouton was modest, something unusual in the news industry in that time period. After being introduced by Grimsby & Beutel, Bouton noted that “Some people say I can’t pitch, others say I can’t write, now we’ll find out if I can’t broadcast.” During the first week, Bouton made several comments about Bowie Kuhn instructed players to not talk to the media. He made comments about women’s liberation could lead to “bra-less tennis tournaments” and even defended the use of “greenies” by Soveit weight lifters. (This is despite calling out the use of greenies in Ball Four.)

William Aylward, a veteran of Eyewitness News was disappointed that veteran sportscaster Lou Boda was moved out in favor of Bouton. At a bar near Channel 7 (Chipp’s at 66th & Columbus), Aylward told Bouton that he was terrible and that if Bouton did not get better, he would be out. Aylward considered Bouton an “interfering, inexperienced, dumb jock” (Bouton’s words). Despite that, ABC hired Bouton to replace Boda. Bouton did not fire Boda, so it was not Bouton’s fault. Bouton noted he got 3 minutes for the sportscast, whereas Boda got a lot less time for his effort.

The really interesting relationship at Channel 7 with Bouton was not with Aylward, or with Roger Grimsby for that matter. Howard Cossell was still with Channel 7 when Bouton was brought aboard. Cossell thought that Bouton was in the way and competition for him. Most people around the station hated Cossell one referring to a question of his location with “He’s out walking his pet rat.” Despite claiming to everyone that he was influential in bringing Bouton into Channel 7, he would waste no time talking crap about Bouton at other occasions.

Andy Lawson

Possibly the most interesting part of Jim Bouton’s tenure at WABC came in his waning months. Comeback attempts were still in Bouton’s blood. In 1972, he attracted a tryout with the Pittsfield Senators (AA affiliate of the Washington Senators). That failed. However, in 1973, sports producer Pete Heller wanted to video tape a Yankees tryout in August. Now, Pete Heller did not sign up for the tryouts. Jim Bouton did not sign up for the tryouts. “Andy Lawson” signed up for the event. In choosing the name, Bouton noted that it was the most generic baseball name he could come up with.

In August 1973, when the tryout came around, Bouton hid his hair under a dark black wig, while a dark black mustache that looked like the 70s (two small diagonal lines on his upper lip) was pasted to his face. Along with a Yankees hat, he looked like a different person altogether. At the tryout “Andy Lawson” showed off six different pitches, including the knuckleball, for the scouts at the camp. About sixty people from all different backgrounds (lawyers, cooks, television broadcasters, etc.) came to the 1973 tryout, an annual event.

In order to direct the cameras, Bouton had a microphone wired under his uniform, which he would whisper to. Now, Bouton’s work impressed the scouts that they asked him for a 2nd look. “Lawson” claimed that he was 21 originally, but when they asked for what year “Andy Lawson” was born, Bouton blew his cover by saying 1961. If you do the math, 1973-1961 = welp. The cover was mostly blown. Depending which year you ask Bouton (1973 vs. 1990), he seemed to have differing opinions on whether or not he really wanted to make the team. In the 1973 newspaper articles about the tryout, Bouton told the press that he did not really want to make the team, just show the world what a Yankee tryout was like. In 1990, that statement was not present.

However, Bouton did get to play some baseball in 1973. Well, it was softball. The broadcaster joined fellow radio and television broadcasters in a game against The Carpenters. These were Karen and Richard Carpenter, who were playing softball as part of fundraising for the American Cancer Society. They raised $3,500 during the game for the cause, but the Carpenters guaranteed $5,000 no matter what. Bouton pitched on the mound. Karen Carpenter fouled out consistently against Bouton. However, she reached second and scored after an error. Bouton’s team was quite the mix: Dave Marash, Murray the K, Tubby Ted Brown, Jim Scott, Jim Hartz, Sherrye Henry, and Vince Hartnett. However, the two names that really stuck out were Cousin Brucie (Bruce Morrow) and Geraldo Rivera (Bouton’s colleague at WABC), the latter of which caught for the team. Can you imagine Geraldo Rivera in 2018 catching at an event? They had some security problems as many girls wanted the young Rivera’s autograph. The Carpenters and their crew won 17-5 in 87-degree heat.

From 66th Street to 57th Street

In late August 1973, WABC’s management team decided to not renew Jim Bouton’s contract for the years 1974, 1975 and 1976. On Tuesday, September 11, 1973, Bouton informed viewers of Eyewitness News that he would not be returning, noting that “I guess I lost my fastball or something. To those of you who sent crank letters, let me just say you won’t have Jim Bouton to kick around anymore.” After signing off with Grimsby and Beutel, Bouton noted to the press that he was probably “too outspoken” for their preferences, but they gave him full editorial leeway until the very end.  He denied it having anything to do with money and was happy working at WABC. Bouton also noted that he had discussions with other stations and considering going back to pitching.

Bouton had no trouble getting a new gig. On September 19, WCBS’ news director Ed Joyce announced to the press that Jim Bouton would be joining the station. They felt that Bouton would have the right to be as outspoken as he wished at WCBS. Bouton, who made $30-40,000 at WABC, was said to make double that at WCBS. At WCBS, he joined with local newscasters Rolland Smith, the recently hired Dave Marash, the legend Jim Jensen along with Alan Kasper and Pat Collins.

However, you could not pull the baseball out of Jim Bouton. In August 1975, WCBS let Bouton pitch for three weeks in the Northwest League’s Portland Mavericks. Bouton picked up a baseball and threw his knuckleball. That was his inspiration. Instead of his five-figure salary, WCBS let him take a leave of absence for a $300/month salary for the Northwest League team. Bouton told the press in November 1975 that he would try to hook up with a AA or AAA team and that he would attend Spring Training in 1976.

In April 1976, however, Jim Bouton turned his role from baseball player to baseball actor as CBS picked up a new comedy named Ball Four. He, along with Marvin Kitman of Newsday, were co-writers for the new television show. Bouton and Ben Davidson were the main stars. Unfortunately, the show only lasted five episodes before CBS pulled the plug. That is show business. After the plug was pulled, Bouton left CBS completely. The game of baseball was still fresh on the mind of Bouton.

In 1977, the Portland Mavericks were the home of Jim Bouton once again. Despite the day to night work of sports casting and acting, Bouton was physically drained. Despite turning down $100,000 a year salary, Bouton decided to sell his $125,000 house in Englewood for a smaller, cheaper house for his wife and kids. That spring, he tried to join the Chicago White Sox farm team of Knoxville (AA) and then dropped by Durango in the Mexican League (AAA). Bing Russell offered Bouton back at $400 a month.

His comeback attempts finally came to a successful conclusion in September 1978 when the Atlanta Braves called him up. Now age 39, Bouton started five games for the Braves, consisting of 29 innings. The results were lackluster, 4.97 ERA and a 1-3 record. The knuckleballer, who had not appeared in eight seasons, was done, his dream completed. In December 1978, he called it quits for good. Bouton got an offer from WCBS to return to do sports on the 11 pm news. Another station in New York (unknown) offered him a positon as a sportscaster as well.

On January 15, 1979, Bouton returned to WCBS as a sports correspondent. He replaced former Met and Yankee Ron Swoboda. He wasted no time trying to get the big interview. Thurman Munson was not exactly an easy person to deal with an interview. Munson told Bouton thrice that he was not interested in an interview in Fort Lauderdale. Munson took his microphone and swore at Bouton rather than politely said no. Munson apparently did not like Ball Four, like many people.

However, by 1980, Bouton was gone from WCBS and replaced by a man who would become a legend in his own right, Warner Wolf. He moved on to freelancing and lecturing. The midlife crisis was over.

We all know the rest.

3 months ago  ::  Oct 05, 2018 - 10:45AM #37
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Stories behind Yankees-Red Sox rivalry: From Babe to curse breakers

Buckey Dent, Babe Ruth, Terry Francona AP (3)

Tensions between the teams began to simmer right from the beginning.

The first game pairing American League representatives of Boston and New York took place on May 7, 1903, at Boston’s Huntington Avenue Grounds, a relatively uneventful 6-2 Boston victory. There was already an underlying friction between the franchises, given that the Highlanders had spent the previous two seasons as the Baltimore Orioles, and Baltimore had long been Boston’s most bitter municipal enemy on baseball diamonds.

The next day, though, the paying customers at the Grounds received the first hint that a fresher, fiercer feud had officially arrived, the moment New York’s Dave Fultz barreled into Boston’s George Winter at first base. The vicious collision knocked Winter senseless, and it was only after Fultz began barking at him to pitch or quit that the Boston pitcher resumed throwing, ultimately taking the loss in a 6-1 New York victory.

In those heartier times, there was little chance of a bench-clearing brawl leaking onto the field, but the first blood of this rivalry had officially been spilled.

And then …
Years later, an old friend and teammate named Jumpin’ Joe Dugan would have this to say about George Herman (Babe) Ruth:

“That big SOB could never have played his whole career in Boston. He was born to play in New York. That swing, that ambition, that appetite? There was just no way a small town like Boston could contain him. What town could? Maybe Chicago. Maybe. No, the Babe was built for Broadway, for the big time. There was only one place for him.”

By 1919, Ruth had started to rankle his boss, Harry Frazee, squawking about his salary. Frazee, an old-school theater impresario, didn’t take him seriously, even after Ruth threatened to retire. How many prima donna actors had pulled similar empty threats on him through the years? The play is always bigger than the player.

“If Ruth doesn’t want to work for the Red Sox,” Frazee vowed, “we can make an advantageous trade.”

Soon, though, as he looked at his books, he noticed something else: for all of Ruth’s mass appeal, Boston’s attendance lagged and in 1919 the defending champs went a flat 66-71. “The Red Sox,” Frazee said flatly, “are not, and never will be, a one-man team.”

On January 5, 1920, the Red Sox and Yankees made a joint announcement. “We offered $100,000 for Ruth some time ago and were turned down,” Ruppert admitted. “The purchase is in line with our policy of giving New York a pennant-winning team in the American League.”

Said Frazee: “It would have been an injustice to keep him with the Red Sox. We would have become a one-man team.”

One old Yankee rejoices …
He’d been asleep for only a second or two. Clocks up and down the East Coast had just clicked to 12:15 a.m. on this morning of Oct. 17, 2003, including the digital Armitron chronometer that dominated the centerfield scoreboard at Yankee Stadium, right above where the most important numbers were posted: Red Sox 5, Yankees 5, bottom of the 11th inning, seventh and deciding game of the ALCS.

It was quiet inside the 80-year-old stadium. This was why so many people in so many parts of the country were trying to blink away their exhaustion as Thursday night bled into Friday morning, as Yankees third baseman Aaron Boone stepped to the plate to face a Boston knuckleball specialist named Tim Wakefield, as all those timepieces ticked over to 12:16.

The exact minute, as it happens, that Bucky Dent fell asleep.

It was the shouting that jarred him back to life.

“What happened?” Marianne Dent yelped.

“Huh?” her husband yammered.

“Look at the TV! They’re mobbing somebody! The Yankees just won the game! They won the pennant! I think someone hit a home run!”

They were showing replays, and Dent, wide awake now inside his Boynton Beach, Fla., home, watched Wakefield deliver a flat, fat knuckleball, watched Boone all but jump out of his spikes as he dove into the pitch, watched the camera follow the baseball as it sketched a beautiful white path against the black Bronx sky, watched it settle into the lower left-field stands, watched Wakefield march solemnly off the mound, watched Boone jump onto home plate with both feet, watched as the crowd, suddenly liberated from nearly four hours of unbearable tension, exploded in a giddy rush of joy.

“Look at you,” Marianne Dent said. “You’re beaming.”

It was more than that, of course. Dent’s eyes remained locked on the TV, but his soul had immediately drifted, the moment he saw it all unfold …

Suddenly, he was rounding first base on another October day, exactly twenty-five years and fifteen days before, middle of a glorious afternoon, in another grand old ball field called Fenway Park. Dent had greeted Mike Torrez’ fastball with the sweet spot of his borrowed Max 44 bat, and now his eyes were trained on the left fielder, Carl Yastrzemski, who was drifting back toward the left-field wall, only 310 feet from home plate. Nobody ever played that thirty-seven-foot-high wall at Fenway like Old Man Yaz, so Dent waited for a sign as he started chugging into second.

When Yastrzemski’s knees buckled, Dent had it.

It was October 2, 1978, and Bucky Dent was 26 years old, and if you’d told him he would ever feel the same rush that bubbled his bloodstream that day, when he staggered Yaz’ legs and broke New England’s spirit and fueled the Yankees on to their twenty-second World Championship, he would never have believed you …

Except that’s exactly how he felt, all these years later, inside his bedroom, watching mayhem tumble out of his television.

“You called it,” Marianne said.

He had. “As the game is building up,” Dent said, “I’m going, ‘OK, who’s going to do something? Who’s got a ‘B’ in their name — Bernie (Williams) or (Aaron) Boone — to keep the Bs going? Who’s got a ‘B’ in their name that’s going to keep Babe, Bucky, Buckner alive?’ It was Boone.”

Is any further explanation needed why this man, who entered the world as Russell Earl Dent on November 25, 1951, had, at least once, on every New England day that passed from October 2, 1978, through that early morning hour of October 17, 2003, in every precinct of Red Sox Nation, been referred to by his more common name?

Bucky Bleeping Dent 

… and one old Red Sock does, too
Bill Lee, who’d spent a large chunk of the 1970s right in the middle of it all, was 15 minutes from his house when Wakefield delivered his knuckler. Fourteen years as a big-leaguer had trained

Lee’s ears precisely; he could tell when he heard Boone make contact on the radio that he’d gotten all of it. He clicked off the dial before the announcers could confirm his suspicions. A surprise was waiting for him in his house.

“I’d been trying to catch this Norwegian rat all summer,” he said. “He’d been dirtying my fridge, he ate a hole through my kitchen wall, and I gave him the only appropriate name I could think of: Billy Martin. Well, I’d put a live trap out that morning, cheese with peanut butter on it. And damned if that wasn’t the day I finally caught the little SOB.”

Lee chuckled.

“Killing Billy Martin,” he said, “made me feel a little better.”

A concession speech
Not even the remarkable decision by Terry Francona to bring Pedro Martinez into Game 7 of the 2004 ALCS — with the Red Sox up 8-1 in the seventh — could change the momentum of history. In jogged Martinez, and suddenly the old Stadium was transformed. Here came the most feared, most intimidating pitcher of the previous 10 years, and his arrival signaled an infusion of hope!

“WHO’S YOUR DADDY?” came the chant.

And the thing was, they were right. The Yankees sprung back to life, nine outs from elimination, scored a few runs, offered a glimpse of hope. Pedro recovered though, and even the most cynical Red Sox fan had a hard time justifying concern with the Sox six outs from the World Series and five runs ahead.

Not even the Red Sox were going to blow this.

Soon, it was over. At 12:01 a.m., one minute after October 20th had become October 21st, the Red Sox were officially declared champions of the American League. Three months shy of eighty-five years after dealing Babe Ruth to the Yankees, fifty-five years after that awful lost weekend in 1949, twenty-six years after Bucky Dent, fifty-three weeks after Aaron Boone … they had made it.

The Red Sox fans in attendance, so overwhelmed all night, now engineered something of a palace coup, commandeering the lower bowl of the Stadium. For a time, they tried in vain to drown out the final few replays of “New York, New York” — the Liza version this time, the “Yankees lose” rendition — and when they finally pulled the plug on that, you could hear them lift their voices to the sky.


And as they watched with horror from their perch high above home plate, a few of George Steinbrenner’s underlings started to fume. These people weren’t going home! They looked like they might stay all night, waiting for every one of the Red Sox to come out of the dugout, salute them, spray them with champagne. This was unseemly! This was outrageous! And surely the Boss wouldn’t approve of this.

So they went to see him, in his office, and they lodged their formal complaints, and George Steinbrenner listened very carefully to every last one of them, and then he shook his head and leaned back in his chair.

“Keep the lights on for them as long as they want to stay,” Steinbrenner said quietly. “They’ve earned it.”

(Excerpted from “Emperors and Idiots,” copyright 2005 by Mike Vaccaro, published by Broadway Books, a division of Random House, available digitally on Kindle and I-books.)

2 months ago  ::  Oct 21, 2018 - 7:48AM #38
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All-time Yankees Lineup: Best Rookie Seasons

In just a few weeks, when the BBWAA voting is revealed and Major League Baseball's major awards are given out, the New York Yankees could have the AL Rookie of the Year winner for the second straight year, and should have at least one finalist for the third straight year (and fourth out of five).

As great as the rookie years of Miguel Andujar and Gleyber Torres were, and as great as Aaron Judge and Gary Sanchez were the last two, it made us wonder: what would an all-time lineup with the greatest rookies in Yankees history look like?

Well, below is the results of our brainstorming when we turned that wonder into action. As it's still baseball season, and because we wanted to shine on as many folks as possible, we've excluded Torres and Andujar from this exercise, instead giving you our 12 best Yankees rookie seasons around the horn prior to 2018.

The Yankees have had a catcher win the AL Rookie of the Year Award in the past, that being Thurman Munson in 1970, but the "Sanchino" eclipsed all of the great rookie seasons among Yankees backstops with his emergence on the scene in 2016. In just 229 plate appearances, Sanchez slashed .299/.376/.657, smacked 20 homers and 12 doubles among his 60 hits, and posted a 3.0 WAR despite his shortened season, earning a runner-up finish to Michael Fulmer in the AL ROY race.

Gehrig was technically a rookie when the 1925 season began, and he was a reserve behind established first baseman Wally Pipp. You surely know the rest of the story that began on June 2, but the year also saw the Iron Horse hit .295 with an .896 OPS, slug 20 homers, and drive in 68 runs in establishing himself as the Yankees' starting (and literally only) first baseman for the next 13 years.

The Yankees have had quite a few rookie second basemen excel in one category, from Tony Lazzeri (117 RBI in 1926) to Alfonso Soriano (43 steals in 2000) to Robinson Cano (.296 average in 2005). But, we're giving the nod to a strong overall performer, and while Torres (and his 24 homers and .820 OPS) might win if he was eligible, our winner is Joe Gordon, who slashed .255/.340/.502 with 25 homers, 97 RBI, and 11 steals in 127 games in 1938 - and was maybe the fourth-best hitter on his own team.

You can make a solid Top 3 behind Jeter, with Phil Rizzuto (.307 average in 1941) and Tom Tresh (20 homers in a Rookie of the Year-winning 1962 season) - but how can you not pick the Captain? His .314/.370/.430 slash line came mostly while batting either first or last, his 41 extra-base hits and 71 RBI weren't too shabby, and, of course, he did hit .361 in the postseason, to boot.

Obviously, Andujar wins handily if he's eligible. He's not, and the Yankees also haven't had a lot of strong rookie performances at the hot corner. McDougald played both second and third in 1951 but spent more time at the hot corner, and he won Rookie of the Year (and finished ninth in MVP voting) after hitting .306/.396/.488 with 14 homers, 63 RBI, and 14 steals, so he gets our nod.

The .300/.400/.500 slash line is a milestone of the greats, and Keller did that as a rookie in 1939, going .334/.447/.500 with 11 homers, 83 RBI, and 21 doubles in 111 games. The Yankees had four players finish in the Top 10 in voting that year, and he, amazingly, wasn't one of them.

A .323 average, .968 OPS, 29 homers, 125 RBI, a league-leading 15 triples, 44 doubles, and 206 total hits was just the tip of the iceberg for Joltin' Joe, who also hit .346 in the 1936 World Series and then just kept getting better. His 44 doubles were a Yankees rookie record, too, until this year.

His 2017 may have been the greatest rookie season of all-time, let alone among Yankees or outfielders or Yankees outfielders. Enough said.

There are so many great rookies we could put here, including Tresh, Rizzuto, catchers Bill Dickey and Thurman Munson (both hit over .300 as rookies) and outfielders Earle Combs (.342 in 19xx) and Bobby Murcer (26 homers in 1969), but Matsui got slighted in not winning Rookie of the Year in 2003, so we'll give him and his .287-16-106 line and 163 games played a nod as our DH.

Although he had made cameos in 1975 and 1976, the 1977 season was technically Gator's rookie year, and he did not disappoint. In helping the Yankees to their first World Series title in 15 years, Guidry went 16-7 with a 2.82 ERA in 210 2/3 innings, establishing himself as a perennial Cy Young candidate. He wouldn't win it that year - 1978, in fact, was his only one - but he became arguably the best southpaw in Yankees history by the time he was done.

Bahnsen is one of the many Yankees to win a Rookie of the Year Award, compiling a 2.05 ERA in 267 1/3 innings pitched in 1968. That was the noted "Year of the Pitcher," which led to changes in mound height and strike zone size, but still, he was the best rookie of the bunch in the final year pre-divisional era.

It might be hard to find a reliever among the top three rookie pitchers if we did this exercise for many teams, but that's not a problem here given what Dellin did in 2014, with the 1.40 ERA and 135 strikeouts in 90 innings. Middle relievers winning Rookie of the Year Awards are unheard of, but he finished third that year to Jose Abreu (.317-36-107) and Matt Shoemaker (16-4, 3.04 ERA in 136 innings).

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