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4 years ago  ::  Sep 12, 2015 - 11:16PM #71
northernclipper
Posts: 2,523

Sep 12, 2015 -- 11:09PM, jmirinhiding wrote:


Sep 12, 2015 -- 11:03PM, northernclipper wrote:


Sep 12, 2015 -- 8:45PM, jmirinhiding wrote:


Sep 12, 2015 -- 8:32PM, davis2 wrote:


Sep 12, 2015 -- 8:05PM, jmirinhiding wrote:



But that's not what Cashman said after the trade deadline ... he said every phone call he made they wanted Bird or Severino ... it's what they always do to us Davis ... they always want more from us than from anyone else.





And why would you believe every word out of Cashman's mouth? 


It's not like he was going to say, "there were trades available but Hal didn't want to take on any additional payroll because he doesn't think this team is worth it." 

I'd love to have you as a fan if I were an owner, I'll say that. You'll believe anything.  




She's nowhere near dumb, stroker! The lady knows her baseball so back off. She is a positive person, and keeps many of us from going off the ledge.  Go back under your bridge, troll!




I was posting here long before you. 

The lady is totally one note and it was a nice antidote to Jonah's relentless negativity but it's misplaced now that Hal is taking the fanbase for a ride.

The lady is also very aggressive in insisting it's her way of viewing the world or you're a negative troll. Some may be unable to understand that there is nothing nice about that. 

Accepting what this front office served up at both the initial deadline and the waiver deadline is pathetic.  




Where are your other posts?  Are you ahsamed or embarrassed by them?  Is that why youonly have a dozen or so this time around (if, indeed, you have actually been here before)?  nc




Uh, I actually lost my password, and yes didn't seem to be able to dig it up? That may have been back as far as 2003? 2004? It was a variant on the same name, and I was a good and pretty well-respected poster. It was probably jmir or something like that. Embarrassed? Lol, no. 





Yeah, I think I remember you now, the poster who was "good and pretty well-repected".  No, wait a minute, I don't remember a thing about you.


Probably because you were neither of the above.  nc

4 years ago  ::  Sep 12, 2015 - 11:24PM #72
T15D23A46
Posts: 5,953

Just a bad rap against the team from across the country.


We took full advantage of the FA market, starting with Catfish and Jackson and it gave the appearance we bought our 70's titles. Other teams didn't want to start paying higher for players, but King George enjoyed the PR.


No one was screaming in 1980 when the Phillies won the World Series a season after they "bought " Pete Rose for the highest contract ever at that time ($800K per season for 4 seasons). 


There has always been sour grapes over the decades of attempting to delegitimatize the Yankees success.


No one is saying the Dodgers are buying their way or any other team.


Just goes with the territory of being part of the greatest sports franchise in all of sports history.



Sep 12, 2015 -- 7:45PM, laurenfrances wrote:


Here's what annoys me.  When Yankees make trades to improve their club, most teams and their fan base say..Yankees are trying to buy their championship.  Yet when Jays do the same in regards to pulling several trades spending $$$, nothing like that is said.





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- 6/11/04 GBCJ

- 6/9/07 God Bless Leo

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4 years ago  ::  Sep 12, 2015 - 11:25PM #73
YankeeBoy
Posts: 586

Sep 12, 2015 -- 6:06PM, YankeeLoon wrote:

I'm sorry. They've nosedived and came up small when it mattered most with bone head errors and crappy pitching and hitting. I respect anyone here being loyal and optimistic but come on, they have choked it up and it's sickening to stomach.




No truer words have been written

4 years ago  ::  Sep 12, 2015 - 11:27PM #74
jmirinhiding
Posts: 18

Sep 12, 2015 -- 11:16PM, northernclipper wrote:


Sep 12, 2015 -- 11:09PM, jmirinhiding wrote:


Sep 12, 2015 -- 11:03PM, northernclipper wrote:


Sep 12, 2015 -- 8:45PM, jmirinhiding wrote:


Sep 12, 2015 -- 8:32PM, davis2 wrote:


Sep 12, 2015 -- 8:05PM, jmirinhiding wrote:



But that's not what Cashman said after the trade deadline ... he said every phone call he made they wanted Bird or Severino ... it's what they always do to us Davis ... they always want more from us than from anyone else.





And why would you believe every word out of Cashman's mouth? 


It's not like he was going to say, "there were trades available but Hal didn't want to take on any additional payroll because he doesn't think this team is worth it." 

I'd love to have you as a fan if I were an owner, I'll say that. You'll believe anything.  




She's nowhere near dumb, stroker! The lady knows her baseball so back off. She is a positive person, and keeps many of us from going off the ledge.  Go back under your bridge, troll!




I was posting here long before you. 

The lady is totally one note and it was a nice antidote to Jonah's relentless negativity but it's misplaced now that Hal is taking the fanbase for a ride.

The lady is also very aggressive in insisting it's her way of viewing the world or you're a negative troll. Some may be unable to understand that there is nothing nice about that. 

Accepting what this front office served up at both the initial deadline and the waiver deadline is pathetic.  




Where are your other posts?  Are you ahsamed or embarrassed by them?  Is that why youonly have a dozen or so this time around (if, indeed, you have actually been here before)?  nc




Uh, I actually lost my password, and yes didn't seem to be able to dig it up? That may have been back as far as 2003? 2004? It was a variant on the same name, and I was a good and pretty well-respected poster. It was probably jmir or something like that. Embarrassed? Lol, no. 





Yeah, I think I remember you now, the poster who was "good and pretty well-repected".  No, wait a minute, I don't remember a thing about you.


Probably because you were neither of the above.  nc





Maybe *you* weren't here, idiot. 

I was here long before the board looked like this. You can't find my old posts because I was here before this board rebooted. 

I was here back when there was a moderator who didn't seem to have any interest in moderating any of Jonah's 2,465,000 posts. Can't remember if you were there back then, actually. 



4 years ago  ::  Sep 12, 2015 - 11:32PM #75
T15D23A46
Posts: 5,953

Apparently you only got this message loud and clear. Might want to get your tin foil hat refitted.


I said it in an earlier post in this thread.


Opening the season with expecting nothing from Alex, Tex and CC. Add in the league leader in hits surrended changing leagues (Eovaldi). Add in Drew at 2nd and some unknown guy replacing Jeter. Oh did I add, that the closers spot was going to go to someone who was never a closer before? All this and this team has surprised. 


The fact that we are even having a discussion of making the post season was completely unfathomable to me at the start of this season.


So your complaint is that we didn't match the Blue Jays at the deadline?


At that point, Tex was playing, Pineda didn't have a forearm issue until the actual day of the deadline and no one was expecting Eovaldi to go down. Sure it would have been nice to have grabbed Price, but then again we all wanted Scherzer in the off season.


Who exactly would you have gotten? And who exactly would you have given up?


Oh, and here is a ball of yarn, knock yourself out.


Sep 12, 2015 -- 11:07PM, jmirinhiding wrote:


Sep 12, 2015 -- 10:49PM, diehardma wrote:


I admire your positive attitude Mo. And I agree with some of your message. This team has overachieved to this point. I think if you asked some people if they would've taken this situation... 4.5 games out of 1st and 3.5 games ahead of the 2nd wild card team going into the season on September 12th people would've signed up for it. But the way it's happened is what is making this tough on Yankee fans. The 8 game lead in late July and then losing 12.5 games in the standings in a month and a half is disheartening and it is truly a hard day to be a Yankee fan. I'm not going to stop watching and I know most of the true fans on this board won't. Even Loon and Davis. I understand their frustration and I also understand your optimism. There's different ways to be a fan. I lie somewhere in the middle. I get pis$ed off but I try and stay even keel. Hopefully Tanaka has his A stuff tomorrow and we finally get Dickey on a day where he doesn't have his best knuckler. That's the thing about baseball... there's always a game tomorrow and the hope of that game tomorrow is what's getting me through tonight.




But how is Hal left out your post here? That tumble coincides with the most gutless trade deadline in Yankees' history. This didn't just somehow happen. Management sent a message loud and clear to this team that they had no interest in contending this year - how can it be surprising that things have gone so badly? 





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T15D23

- 11/25/03 GBMA

- 6/11/04 GBCJ

- 6/9/07 God Bless Leo

- 10/16/07 God Bless Huck

- 11/12/11 God Bless Mom

- 09/24/14 God Bless Dad

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4 years ago  ::  Sep 12, 2015 - 11:48PM #76
jmirinhiding
Posts: 18

Sep 12, 2015 -- 11:32PM, T15D23A46 wrote:


Apparently you only got this message loud and clear. Might want to get your tin foil hat refitted.


I said it in an earlier post in this thread.


Opening the season with expecting nothing from Alex, Tex and CC. Add in the league leader in hits surrended changing leagues (Eovaldi). Add in Drew at 2nd and some unknown guy replacing Jeter. Oh did I add, that the closers spot was going to go to someone who was never a closer before? All this and this team has surprised. 


The fact that we are even having a discussion of making the post season was completely unfathomable to me at the start of this season.


So your complaint is that we didn't match the Blue Jays at the deadline?


At that point, Tex was playing, Pineda didn't have a forearm issue until the actual day of the deadline and no one was expecting Eovaldi to go down. Sure it would have been nice to have grabbed Price, but then again we all wanted Scherzer in the off season.


Who exactly would you have gotten? And who exactly would you have given up?


Oh, and here is a ball of yarn, knock yourself out.


Sep 12, 2015 -- 11:07PM, jmirinhiding wrote:


Sep 12, 2015 -- 10:49PM, diehardma wrote:


I admire your positive attitude Mo. And I agree with some of your message. This team has overachieved to this point. I think if you asked some people if they would've taken this situation... 4.5 games out of 1st and 3.5 games ahead of the 2nd wild card team going into the season on September 12th people would've signed up for it. But the way it's happened is what is making this tough on Yankee fans. The 8 game lead in late July and then losing 12.5 games in the standings in a month and a half is disheartening and it is truly a hard day to be a Yankee fan. I'm not going to stop watching and I know most of the true fans on this board won't. Even Loon and Davis. I understand their frustration and I also understand your optimism. There's different ways to be a fan. I lie somewhere in the middle. I get pis$ed off but I try and stay even keel. Hopefully Tanaka has his A stuff tomorrow and we finally get Dickey on a day where he doesn't have his best knuckler. That's the thing about baseball... there's always a game tomorrow and the hope of that game tomorrow is what's getting me through tonight.




But how is Hal left out your post here? That tumble coincides with the most gutless trade deadline in Yankees' history. This didn't just somehow happen. Management sent a message loud and clear to this team that they had no interest in contending this year - how can it be surprising that things have gone so badly? 









We did NOTHING at the deadline!!! You think we couldn't have gotten anything more than Ackley?! 

Getting Kimbrel alone might have won 5-6 more games easily and might have prevented the destruction of Dellin Betances. 


You think the team wasn't disappointed that all they got was an injured Ackley? How the hell do you think ARod, having this miraculous comeback season, felt, knowing that management was bringing in nothing to help the team? 

Do you know that the Yankees payroll has dropped from almost 90% of revenue to 47% of revenue?!

Hal is pocketing cash, and I'm not the one who needs a ball of yarn if you're too dumb to figure that out.  


4 years ago  ::  Sep 12, 2015 - 11:50PM #77
jmirinhiding
Posts: 18

Sep 12, 2015 -- 11:32PM, T15D23A46 wrote:


Apparently you only got this message loud and clear. Might want to get your tin foil hat refitted.


I said it in an earlier post in this thread.


Opening the season with expecting nothing from Alex, Tex and CC. Add in the league leader in hits surrended changing leagues (Eovaldi). Add in Drew at 2nd and some unknown guy replacing Jeter. Oh did I add, that the closers spot was going to go to someone who was never a closer before? All this and this team has surprised. 


The fact that we are even having a discussion of making the post season was completely unfathomable to me at the start of this season.


So your complaint is that we didn't match the Blue Jays at the deadline?


At that point, Tex was playing, Pineda didn't have a forearm issue until the actual day of the deadline and no one was expecting Eovaldi to go down. Sure it would have been nice to have grabbed Price, but then again we all wanted Scherzer in the off season.


Who exactly would you have gotten? And who exactly would you have given up?


Oh, and here is a ball of yarn, knock yourself out.


Sep 12, 2015 -- 11:07PM, jmirinhiding wrote:


Sep 12, 2015 -- 10:49PM, diehardma wrote:


I admire your positive attitude Mo. And I agree with some of your message. This team has overachieved to this point. I think if you asked some people if they would've taken this situation... 4.5 games out of 1st and 3.5 games ahead of the 2nd wild card team going into the season on September 12th people would've signed up for it. But the way it's happened is what is making this tough on Yankee fans. The 8 game lead in late July and then losing 12.5 games in the standings in a month and a half is disheartening and it is truly a hard day to be a Yankee fan. I'm not going to stop watching and I know most of the true fans on this board won't. Even Loon and Davis. I understand their frustration and I also understand your optimism. There's different ways to be a fan. I lie somewhere in the middle. I get pis$ed off but I try and stay even keel. Hopefully Tanaka has his A stuff tomorrow and we finally get Dickey on a day where he doesn't have his best knuckler. That's the thing about baseball... there's always a game tomorrow and the hope of that game tomorrow is what's getting me through tonight.




But how is Hal left out your post here? That tumble coincides with the most gutless trade deadline in Yankees' history. This didn't just somehow happen. Management sent a message loud and clear to this team that they had no interest in contending this year - how can it be surprising that things have gone so badly? 








And why didn't we get Scherzer? Because Hal doesn't have the same commitment to winning that his father did. I honestly have no idea if Hal cares one way or the other, as long as he gets paid. That guy sure as hell is no New Yorker. 

4 years ago  ::  Sep 13, 2015 - 1:49AM #78
jmirinhiding
Posts: 18

Oh, and I don't know why I'm bothering, but to act like a Pineda injury was unforseeable is just the heights. Yeah, who could ever imagine that a guy whose number one failing is that he's injury prone would sustain an injury? And did you happen to NOTICE that Eovaldi was suddenly throwing 115+ pitches every outing? Gee, there's absolutely no way that could have anything to do with him suddenly hitting the DL! No way! And do you know what might have saved him from throwing so many pitches every time out? That's right, another plus guy in the bullpen, the one thing we all know they could have traded for! I swear, the Yankees are lucky to have the lot of you who actually think this is acceptable, but unfortunately, you guys aren't filling the seats. You think I'm the only one who saw that Hal and Cashman had no belief in this team? Why the hell do you think in the biggest games we've played since 2012 the seats that weren't empty had so many Blue Jays fans in them??? 

Yes, I was a much more composed poster back then, but back then I knew that management actually cared MORE than I did about this team contending. Now I'm quite certain they care less. Possibly much, much less.  

4 years ago  ::  Sep 13, 2015 - 8:13AM #79
GottaGoToMo
Posts: 77,726

Sep 12, 2015 -- 10:49PM, diehardma wrote:


I admire your positive attitude Mo. And I agree with some of your message. This team has overachieved to this point. I think if you asked some people if they would've taken this situation... 4.5 games out of 1st and 3.5 games ahead of the 2nd wild card team going into the season on September 12th people would've signed up for it. But the way it's happened is what is making this tough on Yankee fans. The 8 game lead in late July and then losing 12.5 games in the standings in a month and a half is disheartening and it is truly a hard day to be a Yankee fan. I'm not going to stop watching and I know most of the true fans on this board won't. Even Loon and Davis. I understand their frustration and I also understand your optimism. There's different ways to be a fan. I lie somewhere in the middle. I get pis$ed off but I try and stay even keel. Hopefully Tanaka has his A stuff tomorrow and we finally get Dickey on a day where he doesn't have his best knuckler. That's the thing about baseball... there's always a game tomorrow and the hope of that game tomorrow is what's getting me through tonight.




Thanks for understanding, and I know everyone is different ... don't expect everyone to agree with this thread.  By the way, don't take optimism for less passion ... I get plenty p'd off ... I just rationalize it afterwards ... but if my TV could talk it would have already screamed back at me.

4 years ago  ::  Sep 13, 2015 - 9:06AM #80
JoeGNJ
Posts: 15,926

Im not so sure that this team has overachieved. Arod is an exception. This team for the first half of the season competed very well in a division, and league for that matter, that had teams with weaknesses equal to or owrse than we have / had. The major reason we've fallen from grace is that there are teams, (the Jays, and METS for that matter) that made significant moves, at the deadline, to address weaknesses. We did NOTHING. Im not a subsciber to the Severino/Bird excuse becuasse teams made moves to improve formLESS than Severino or Bird. What we're seeing is the 162 game season exposing each teams weakest links. I felt we COULD win the div IF, the division was status quo at the end of the year as it was in the beginning. Thats a big IF.  Ok, Im disappointed if we dont win the AL east but, a PS berth is a plus over the last two years. Other pluses. Didi, appears to have ahuge upside based on second half. Bird...much more good is to come. Severino's the real deal. Eovaldi...coaching has made him, AS OF THIS Moment, the pitcher in NY who has the most wins. Best one two closing BP in the ML. Emergenoce of Murphy as a bona fide back up and perhaps the catcher of the future. The upside here is cause for optimism. Theres other areas to address, to be sure but, they have to be addressed with facing up to realities. CC is taking up a roster spot. The starters HAVE to go beyond the 5-6 innings they do EVERY GAME. Its not a sin to go 8 or heaven for id, pitch a compplete game, al i aggravated ? Hail yeah. Defalted and disapointed, yesssssssss.  But, for all the clamoring about the team getting younger, it HAS, and the seeds are in place. Seeds dont grow overnite. As the garden grows however, you. Need to pull out the weeds. Weed and fertilize and the harvest will be frutiful. 

JoeGNJ - 2Timothy 4:7 - Acts 20:24
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