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3 years ago  ::  Oct 07, 2015 - 8:29AM #21
louisiana_lightning
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Oct 7, 2015 -- 8:06AM, 61in61 wrote:


I think Girardi does overthink the game sometimes. You can look at all the numbers you want but the bottom line is, in a one game, winner take all situation you play your "A" team and that means Ellsbury and McCann. Ells had been hitting pretty good the last 2 weeks of the season. No reason to bench him, unless he was hurt.




Girardi went with his "A" team  (God help us) on the 4th  against Chris Tillman and it was obvious before the first pitch was thrown that Ellsbury,  Gardner,  Rodriguez, McCann, and Headley would be impotent in even putting up a fight. 

3 years ago  ::  Oct 07, 2015 - 8:33AM #22
louisiana_lightning
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Oct 7, 2015 -- 8:16AM, yankeeoldfan wrote:


Oct 7, 2015 -- 8:06AM, newinn wrote:


No one has defended Gardner more then me but I can't  discount the 2 lousy 2nd halfs he has had the past 2 seasons (even though he was hurt last year). His seconf half this year really hurt his trade value. Hope him and Ellsbury rebound early next year or I fear they will be locked into those contracts. If they get off to hot starts, I'd look to trade both of them




If they both start out hitting .500 for the first 1/3 of the season, no one's going to take Ellsbury, I'd be hopeful if they could move Gardner.. I think both contracts are going to be hard to move unless we eat a good chunk of the money... 




The guys we need to move are being compensated much more than they would be worth to a potential  trade partner as a free agent.   With all the cable money in the game now I think we can only move those guys for change of scenery players on equally bad deals.

3 years ago  ::  Oct 07, 2015 - 8:34AM #23
IGotYouBabe
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Oct 7, 2015 -- 8:06AM, 61in61 wrote:

You can look at all the numbers you want but the bottom line is, in a one game, winner take all situation you play your "A" team



If ever the adage "That's it in a nutshell" applied to something, this is it.

3 years ago  ::  Oct 07, 2015 - 10:12AM #24
luvdayanks
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Oct 7, 2015 -- 6:08AM, NW wrote:


Oct 7, 2015 -- 5:28AM, louisiana_lightning wrote:

 


...and it's not like we handicap ourselves at all with our backup.  Murphy is solid and ideally the better choice to start against Keuchel. 




It's hard to leave your season's most productive hitter on the bench in a 1 game playoff.  The Interwebs are going crazy because he benched Ellsbury; imagine if he did the same to McCann.  I think it would have been the right move, but I don't think it would have mattered.





You lost me on that one. Ellsbury your most productive hitter???

3 years ago  ::  Oct 07, 2015 - 11:17AM #25
louisiana_lightning
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Oct 7, 2015 -- 10:12AM, luvdayanks wrote:


Oct 7, 2015 -- 6:08AM, NW wrote:


Oct 7, 2015 -- 5:28AM, louisiana_lightning wrote:

 


...and it's not like we handicap ourselves at all with our backup.  Murphy is solid and ideally the better choice to start against Keuchel. 




It's hard to leave your season's most productive hitter on the bench in a 1 game playoff.  The Interwebs are going crazy because he benched Ellsbury; imagine if he did the same to McCann.  I think it would have been the right move, but I don't think it would have mattered.





You lost me on that one. Ellsbury your most productive hitter???




Maybe he stopped paying attention after May.

3 years ago  ::  Oct 07, 2015 - 11:54AM #26
qwik3457
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Oct 7, 2015 -- 7:58AM, JoeGNJ wrote:


All are great points but, its been a VERY long time since you looked at the line-up and saw a 300 hitter. Elite teams have them.




Only 4 of the 10 playoff teams have a regular batting .300 this year. If you look close, you'll see there are very few of those guys anymore.

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3 years ago  ::  Oct 07, 2015 - 11:57AM #27
luvdayanks
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Oct 7, 2015 -- 11:54AM, qwik3457 wrote:


Oct 7, 2015 -- 7:58AM, JoeGNJ wrote:


All are great points but, its been a VERY long time since you looked at the line-up and saw a 300 hitter. Elite teams have them.




Only 4 of the 10 playoff teams have a regular batting .300 this year. If you look close, you'll see there are very few of those guys anymore.





It's certainly a pitcher's era. A lot of low run games and things like 2 no hitters by Scherzer proves it.

3 years ago  ::  Oct 07, 2015 - 12:00PM #28
JoeGNJ
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Oct 7, 2015 -- 11:54AM, qwik3457 wrote:


Oct 7, 2015 -- 7:58AM, JoeGNJ wrote:


All are great points but, its been a VERY long time since you looked at the line-up and saw a 300 hitter. Elite teams have them.




Only 4 of the 10 playoff teams have a regular batting .300 this year. If you look close, you'll see there are very few of those guys anymore.




we can do A LOT better than 250-260 and 4 of 10 isnt bad especially when you look at teams who fell short for a variety of reasons. A mix of hitters for avg and HR in Yankee Stadium's a better formula for succes than an HR or nothing line up. 

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3 years ago  ::  Oct 07, 2015 - 12:06PM #29
qwik3457
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Oct 7, 2015 -- 12:00PM, JoeGNJ wrote:


Oct 7, 2015 -- 11:54AM, qwik3457 wrote:


Oct 7, 2015 -- 7:58AM, JoeGNJ wrote:


All are great points but, its been a VERY long time since you looked at the line-up and saw a 300 hitter. Elite teams have them.




Only 4 of the 10 playoff teams have a regular batting .300 this year. If you look close, you'll see there are very few of those guys anymore.




we can do A LOT better than 250-260 and 4 of 10 isnt bad especially when you look at teams who fell short for a variety of reasons. A mix of hitters for avg and HR in Yankee Stadium's a better formula for succes than an HR or nothing line up. 




Well, I'd go for Heyward if Hal would spend some more money. But he won't.

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3 years ago  ::  Oct 07, 2015 - 12:08PM #30
laurenfrances
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Anyone have thoughts of trading Nova and making a run for Chen? His salary might not be astronomical.

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