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3 years ago  ::  May 08, 2016 - 10:17AM #31
TonyG4
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And of course, I made it clear, I think Gordie Howe, Mr. Hockey was one of the greatest all around players ever in hockey. You know what a Gordie Howe hat trick is in hockey don't you ? A goal, an assist, and a fight. That just about tells you it all.

Willie, Mickey and the Duke, Now That Was Baseball in NY.

THE ORIGINAL SIX IN THE NHL, OLD TIME HOCKEY,

THE WAY THE GAME WAS MEANT TO BE PLAYED:

LETS GO RANGERS. LETS GO YANKEES
3 years ago  ::  May 15, 2016 - 1:07PM #32
TonyG4
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May 4, 2016 -- 2:47PM, TonyG4 wrote:


What other sport can you see two guys after a tough battle in the playoffs go to center ice one with a black eye, the other with blood coming down  his face and eye bleeding, who both gave that too each other. 


The great photo of Maurice the Rocket Richard and Sugar Henry of the Boston Bruins. This tells you what the sport of hockey is all about.





I just finished watching the Rocket again, and I love every minute of the movie. And this picture with Sugar Henry and the Rocket, shaking hands, you will see in the movie.

If anyone does get this movie, make when the movie ends, you also watch the tribute to the Rocket. I watch this movie at least once or twice a year. It's the history of hockey and the Rocket. One of, if not the greatest hockey player of all time.




Willie, Mickey and the Duke, Now That Was Baseball in NY.

THE ORIGINAL SIX IN THE NHL, OLD TIME HOCKEY,

THE WAY THE GAME WAS MEANT TO BE PLAYED:

LETS GO RANGERS. LETS GO YANKEES
3 years ago  ::  May 17, 2016 - 3:06PM #33
JoeGNJ
Posts: 15,926

May 15, 2016 -- 1:07PM, TonyG4 wrote:


May 4, 2016 -- 2:47PM, TonyG4 wrote:


What other sport can you see two guys after a tough battle in the playoffs go to center ice one with a black eye, the other with blood coming down  his face and eye bleeding, who both gave that too each other. 


The great photo of Maurice the Rocket Richard and Sugar Henry of the Boston Bruins. This tells you what the sport of hockey is all about.





I just finished watching the Rocket again, and I love every minute of the movie. And this picture with Sugar Henry and the Rocket, shaking hands, you will see in the movie.

If anyone does get this movie, make when the movie ends, you also watch the tribute to the Rocket. I watch this movie at least once or twice a year. It's the history of hockey and the Rocket. One of, if not the greatest hockey player of all time.







Howe or Rocket as greatest of all time? Take your pick Tony...ya cant choose both Bro...lol/// My late uncle who grew up in Astoria loved Howe too. I though he was pretty dirty and I never could understand a guy with that much talent resorting to that crap liek he did. Greatest of all time is a tough one...Gretzky sure has to fugure into that as well as Bobby Orr...even though he played D...very hard call IMO. 

JoeGNJ - 2Timothy 4:7 - Acts 20:24
3 years ago  ::  May 18, 2016 - 8:45PM #34
TonyG4
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Can't argue with the guys you named Joe but even the great one #99, picks Howe, now if you force me to pick between Howe and The Rocket, I have to go with Howe because I saw him play almost his entire career. But I won't argue with anyone who picks Maurice.
Willie, Mickey and the Duke, Now That Was Baseball in NY.

THE ORIGINAL SIX IN THE NHL, OLD TIME HOCKEY,

THE WAY THE GAME WAS MEANT TO BE PLAYED:

LETS GO RANGERS. LETS GO YANKEES
3 years ago  ::  May 18, 2016 - 8:51PM #35
TonyG4
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What I find so outstanding with the Rocket, he was the first player in hockey to score 50 goals, and he did it in 50 games, along with having 8 Stanley Cup Rings.
Willie, Mickey and the Duke, Now That Was Baseball in NY.

THE ORIGINAL SIX IN THE NHL, OLD TIME HOCKEY,

THE WAY THE GAME WAS MEANT TO BE PLAYED:

LETS GO RANGERS. LETS GO YANKEES
3 years ago  ::  May 19, 2016 - 1:45PM #36
JoeGNJ
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May 18, 2016 -- 8:51PM, TonyG4 wrote:

What I find so outstanding with the Rocket, he was the first player in hockey to score 50 goals, and he did it in 50 games, along with having 8 Stanley Cup Rings.



Well not to take anything away from Howe, who, I really didnt like..BUT.......he NEVER scored 50 goals in a season...that "50 club" when you mention alll time greats, well, you need to be in that club (I certainly figure him in the top 5--excluding goalies)...in fact, Howe scored as many as 40 goals I believe only 4 or 5 times..(Bobby Hull scored 50+ that many times)..thats a huge asterisk IMO for a guy who played as long as he did in the NHL....I dont count the WHA days b/c that was a diluted league talent wise when he got there as well as he was old. IMO, guys like Jagr, Lemieuz, Ovechkin would give him a real good run for his money if they played in the same era. Those guys are all big, very strong and fast, and wouldnt take any of Gordies shyt. Howe was decent sized when he played, even on the bigger side--- today, he'd be smaller than avg. 

JoeGNJ - 2Timothy 4:7 - Acts 20:24
3 years ago  ::  May 19, 2016 - 8:05PM #37
TonyG4
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Joe, are you aware that Bobby Hull, played in the AHL, just like Howe, and Gordie scored 49 goals when he was in his 50's. Just liok at some of his awards and stats.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_career_a...
Willie, Mickey and the Duke, Now That Was Baseball in NY.

THE ORIGINAL SIX IN THE NHL, OLD TIME HOCKEY,

THE WAY THE GAME WAS MEANT TO BE PLAYED:

LETS GO RANGERS. LETS GO YANKEES
3 years ago  ::  May 20, 2016 - 2:57PM #38
JoeGNJ
Posts: 15,926

May 19, 2016 -- 8:05PM, TonyG4 wrote:

Joe, are you aware that Bobby Hull, played in the AHL, just like Howe, and Gordie scored 49 goals when he was in his 50's. Just liok at some of his awards and stats. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_career_a...



understood....Gordie still never scored 50 goals in a season and IMO, thats a real black mark. 

JoeGNJ - 2Timothy 4:7 - Acts 20:24
3 years ago  ::  May 20, 2016 - 3:33PM #39
TonyG4
Posts: 3,205

May 19, 2016 -- 1:45PM, JoeGNJ wrote:


May 18, 2016 -- 8:51PM, TonyG4 wrote:

What I find so outstanding with the Rocket, he was the first player in hockey to score 50 goals, and he did it in 50 games, along with having 8 Stanley Cup Rings.



Well not to take anything away from Howe, who, I really didnt like..BUT.......he NEVER scored 50 goals in a season...that "50 club" when you mention alll time greats, well, you need to be in that club (I certainly figure him in the top 5--excluding goalies)...in fact, Howe scored as many as 40 goals I believe only 4 or 5 times..(Bobby Hull scored 50+ that many times)..thats a huge asterisk IMO for a guy who played as long as he did in the NHL....I dont count the WHA days b/c that was a diluted league talent wise when he got there as well as he was old. IMO, guys like Jagr, Lemieuz, Ovechkin would give him a real good run for his money if they played in the same era. Those guys are all big, very strong and fast, and wouldnt take any of Gordies shyt. Howe was decent sized when he played, even on the bigger side--- today, he'd be smaller than avg. 




First of all Joe, in the Original six, it was a shorter season, second of all there were 6 teams, and all of them had Hall of Fame Goalies, along with the best all around hockey players of their time. You keep bring up guys like OV,  Jgar, Lemieux, and you could throw in guys like Cindy the Punk Crosby, even guys like the Great one along with great scorers like Mike Bossey, and throw in many of the 50 goals scorers of today if you want. But you fail to realize, in the days that Gordie never scored 50 goals, you took a beating to score a goal, and control the puck, they didn't blow the whistle when guys were mugged carrying the puck up ice, where there was no open ice, do you think guys like Crosby, and Lemieux, who hated to get hit, and would spend their entire career crying to the refs, when ever they got hit, could be as great as they were when they were playing, if they played in the days of the original six, where as I said you had to earn open ice, you had to pay the price to get open ice, you had to pay the price going to the net, or standing in the crease. As big as OV is, I don't think he could have handle those days,. These Euro players like him would get knocked all over the ice. They couldn't stand there like OV does, on the wing, with his stick up in a shooting position for a one timer like he does now, and no one can touch him, the stick would be put up his A$$. You make a lot of good points on the subject of hockey, and I respect you and your views, you know the game, and I enjoy talking hockey with you, but you have to realize, I have one big advantage over  you, all these guys now and then, I have seen play with my own eyes, and watched guys like Gordie play for his entire career, along with every player you have mentioned, and I will take Gordie over all of them. If Gordie could do what he did in those days, with completely different rules and penalties, against most of the best players in the world of hockey, and most are hall of fame hockey players today, when all 6 teams, didn't have a weak link on any line or defense, and goalie, can you imagine what he could do today. It's 2016 Joe, and they are still trying to break Gordie Howe's records.

Stick with me Joe, and you will learn what the real game of hockey  is all about LOL



You didn't mess with the likes of Gordie Howe




Willie, Mickey and the Duke, Now That Was Baseball in NY.

THE ORIGINAL SIX IN THE NHL, OLD TIME HOCKEY,

THE WAY THE GAME WAS MEANT TO BE PLAYED:

LETS GO RANGERS. LETS GO YANKEES
3 years ago  ::  May 20, 2016 - 5:47PM #40
prof. quiz
Posts: 7,597

Good to see some hockey talk even though some of you root for the wrong team!


Great names mentioned here but Gretzky truly is the Great One. He has almost 1,000 more career points than Messier who holds second place. Four, 200 plus point seasons. His numbers are surreal.


I think Gretzky, when asked, said Howe was the greatest ever.


At least we all agree that the shoot out sucks. So does 3 on 3 during OT.

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