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4 years ago  ::  Apr 29, 2016 - 7:42PM #1
JonahFalcon
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To get a meaningful pick?

Eli. 2004. That led to 2 Super Bowls.

Accorsi is an actual GM. Reese is a field mouse. He should be managing a Dairy Queen not an NFL team
4 years ago  ::  Apr 30, 2016 - 6:45AM #2
Joeybagadonutz
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Hey Coach- you don't remember trading up to the top of the 2nd round last year to grab Landon Collins? One of your better moves for sure.

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4 years ago  ::  Apr 30, 2016 - 6:54AM #3
JonahFalcon
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Apr 30, 2016 -- 6:45AM, Joeybagadonutz wrote:


Hey Coach- you don't remember trading up to the top of the 2nd round last year to grab Landon Collins? One of your better moves for sure.




Collins is so good at safety, people in the organization want to move him to linebacker.


Giants ranked dead last in pass defense last year.


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4 years ago  ::  Apr 30, 2016 - 7:28AM #4
Joeybagadonutz
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Apr 30, 2016 -- 6:54AM, JonahFalcon wrote:


Apr 30, 2016 -- 6:45AM, Joeybagadonutz wrote:


Hey Coach- you don't remember trading up to the top of the 2nd round last year to grab Landon Collins? One of your better moves for sure.




Collins is so good at safety, people in the organization want to move him to linebacker.


Giants ranked dead last in pass defense last year.


espn.go.com/nfl/statistics/team/_/stat/p...





Collins is an in the box strong safety numbnuts. Their being last in coverage is why Prince is gone to Jax on a one year deal, Jenkins is signed and Apple and Thompson were drafted. Collins is not moving to LB. 

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4 years ago  ::  May 02, 2016 - 8:36AM #5
JonahFalcon
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There were 25 trades made during this year's draft involving 25 teams. The Giants were one of the seven teams that didn't make any trades. They just sat tight at each of their six picks and took the top-ranked guy on their board at each one of them. They didn't stop to think, "Wait, we really do need to add a developmental offensive lineman to this mix." And that's fine, if that's the way you want to handle it. They come out of the draft liking all six players they got and not bogging themselves down with, "Well, could we have got him later and added a pick or two?"


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4 years ago  ::  May 02, 2016 - 8:58AM #6
JonahFalcon
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There is no doubt it was not a great look for general manager Jerry Reese when two teams, the Titans and Bears, traded up directly ahead of the Giants to take two players — Michigan State offensive tackle Jack Conklin and Georgia linebacker Leonard Floyd — coveted by Reese. In 10 years, Reese has never traded up (or down) in the first round and he stood pat again as the draft unfolded around him. Was it not worth giving up a fourth-round pick to get the player he wanted? Most likely, Reese had similar grades for Conklin, Floyd and Apple and thus did not see the need to lose a pick to move up.


nypost.com/2016/05/01/5-giants-draft-tak...

4 years ago  ::  May 11, 2016 - 10:04PM #7
JonahFalcon
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Did the Giants pick the right cornerback in the draft?


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Pro Football Focus did an interesting second-guessing exerciseInsider on the draft, selecting a few teams they believe made the wrong pick in the first round and naming the players they believe those teams should have taken instead. They believe the New York Giants should have selected cornerback William Jackson III instead of cornerback Eli Apple.



If you click on that link (and have Insider access), you'll see that the PFF critique has to do with scheme fit and their own evaluation of Jackson as the superior prospect to Apple. On the latter, I think you have to chalk up the pick to subjectivity. The Giants liked Apple due to his age (still only 20, a couple of years younger than Jackson), his size (6-foot-1, 199 pounds as compared to Jackson's 6-0, 189) and his big-school pedigree (Ohio State versus Houston, in this case). They looked at Jackson and had him in for a pre-draft visit, but Apple was the higher player on their board, and you know the Giants lean on their scouts.


What's more interesting to me is whether the Giants should have traded down knowing they could have had either Jackson or Apple later in the first round and picked up an extra pick along the way. Jackson lasted until the Bengals at No. 24. Giants general manager Jerry Reese said he got one offer for the No. 10 pick and didn't like it, but the fact remains that Reese has never once traded down in 10 drafts since becoming the Giants' GM. He's never had an offer he liked for a pick.


Without getting into the comparison of Apple versus Jackson as players, it's worth wondering whether Jackson would have been the better pick for the Giants because he might have brought with him more value. But that gets again to the issue of the Giants' draft methods -- not which player will be better. That, with all due respect to PFF and the stellar work they do, is something none of us can know at this point for certain.

4 years ago  ::  May 12, 2016 - 7:08PM #8
yank0428
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May 11, 2016 -- 10:04PM, JonahFalcon wrote:


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Did the Giants pick the right cornerback in the draft?


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Pro Football Focus did an interesting second-guessing exerciseInsider on the draft, selecting a few teams they believe made the wrong pick in the first round and naming the players they believe those teams should have taken instead. They believe the New York Giants should have selected cornerback William Jackson III instead of cornerback Eli Apple.



If you click on that link (and have Insider access), you'll see that the PFF critique has to do with scheme fit and their own evaluation of Jackson as the superior prospect to Apple. On the latter, I think you have to chalk up the pick to subjectivity. The Giants liked Apple due to his age (still only 20, a couple of years younger than Jackson), his size (6-foot-1, 199 pounds as compared to Jackson's 6-0, 189) and his big-school pedigree (Ohio State versus Houston, in this case). They looked at Jackson and had him in for a pre-draft visit, but Apple was the higher player on their board, and you know the Giants lean on their scouts.


What's more interesting to me is whether the Giants should have traded down knowing they could have had either Jackson or Apple later in the first round and picked up an extra pick along the way. Jackson lasted until the Bengals at No. 24. Giants general manager Jerry Reese said he got one offer for the No. 10 pick and didn't like it, but the fact remains that Reese has never once traded down in 10 drafts since becoming the Giants' GM. He's never had an offer he liked for a pick.


Without getting into the comparison of Apple versus Jackson as players, it's worth wondering whether Jackson would have been the better pick for the Giants because he might have brought with him more value. But that gets again to the issue of the Giants' draft methods -- not which player will be better. That, with all due respect to PFF and the stellar work they do, is something none of us can know at this point for certain.




Yea that was my issue with the 1st round pick. I think they could have got him later. The rest of the draft I don't have any complaints . 


 I think they would have jumped on Tunsil till the vid came out. I think they would have jumped on Conklin or the LB the Bears moved up to get. He's just not that aggressive as a GM. If you love a player go get him . If you don't trade and get picks.

4 years ago  ::  Jul 07, 2016 - 6:57PM #9
nystripes2
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Jerry Reese I'm no fan, but he did a very good job this off season filling almost all the holes thru FA and the draft
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