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3 years ago  ::  Sep 16, 2016 - 12:14AM #1
northernclipper
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I've learned a few things tonight:

1.  At this point in his career, I don't believe Betances is our closer.  He has not (and may never) develop that mentality.  We need a Chapman or sic, especially with this anemic offense.

2.  Our offense, despite people crrowing about our hitting 2 HRs a game lately, is simply not good enough.   I didn't see the game (for the reason that follows), but someone please tell me that Brian McCann was trying to put the ball in play, even go opposite field, just get a bat on the ball, and not swinging for the fences in his last plate appearance.  Deep down inside me I envision that he was trying to kill the ball.  Our team has too many McCanns, free swinging guys with no sense of getting on base, keeping the line moving, putting pressure on the defence or being able to win in a variety of ways.  This team is too one-dimensional and is not equipped with enough contact guys..

3.  We have some definite holes to fill.  Starting pitching for one.  Offense for another.  Better keep Butler around just in case some of our young blood can't cut it (and we know that they won't all succeed).  If guys like Headley don't like getting time off for Torrenses (sp?), there is a solution:  play better, then you won't have to worry!

4.    MLB  TV sucks.  All week they've been promising back to back Yankees-Red Sox games tonight and tomorrow, then suddenly, surprise!  "Some viewers will be watching the Rays and Orioles."  This is BS!!!  If you promise something for several days, then DELIVER!

Finally, an opinion:  Why do all the first-timers (or the usual suspects) always seem to come out to give their "Fire Girardi" rant after a tough loss?  If you've been around long enough, you will know that Joe GIrardi beat out none other than Don Mattingly for the job.  This is absolutely no knock on Donnie, but upper management must have made their choice on merit more than the fact that he was a former Yankee.  If anything, I suspect that they wanted to give the job to him, but ultimately felt that Girardi was the better candidate, at the time, anyway.  nc
3 years ago  ::  Sep 16, 2016 - 9:47AM #2
Carp
Posts: 5,367

Sep 16, 2016 -- 12:14AM, northernclipper wrote:

I've learned a few things tonight:

1.  At this point in his career, I don't believe Betances is our closer.  He has not (and may never) develop that mentality.  We need a Chapman or sic, especially with this anemic offense.

2.  Our offense, despite people crrowing about our hitting 2 HRs a game lately, is simply not good enough.   I didn't see the game (for the reason that follows), but someone please tell me that Brian McCann was trying to put the ball in play, even go opposite field, just get a bat on the ball, and not swinging for the fences in his last plate appearance.  Deep down inside me I envision that he was trying to kill the ball.  Our team has too many McCanns, free swinging guys with no sense of getting on base, keeping the line moving, putting pressure on the defence or being able to win in a variety of ways.  This team is too one-dimensional and is not equipped with enough contact guys..

3.  We have some definite holes to fill.  Starting pitching for one.  Offense for another.  Better keep Butler around just in case some of our young blood can't cut it (and we know that they won't all succeed).  If guys like Headley don't like getting time off for Torrenses (sp?), there is a solution:  play better, then you won't have to worry!

4.    MLB  TV sucks.  All week they've been promising back to back Yankees-Red Sox games tonight and tomorrow, then suddenly, surprise!  "Some viewers will be watching the Rays and Orioles."  This is BS!!!  If you promise something for several days, then DELIVER!

Finally, an opinion:  Why do all the first-timers (or the usual suspects) always seem to come out to give their "Fire Girardi" rant after a tough loss?  If you've been around long enough, you will know that Joe GIrardi beat out none other than Don Mattingly for the job.  This is absolutely no knock on Donnie, but upper management must have made their choice on merit more than the fact that he was a former Yankee.  If anything, I suspect that they wanted to give the job to him, but ultimately felt that Girardi was the better candidate, at the time, anyway.  nc



My thoughts- Catchers seem to be better suited to be managers.  THey are used to seeing things rom a more strategic perspective- especially pitching- throughout the course of a game.


Additionally, I think Refsnyder was the lynchpin last night.  He was a sucker for the pitch off the plate.  I'd say he was just having trouble hitting that pitcher but he is something like 2 for 23 at this point with RISP.  Soooooooo........  I'd say the kid "needs to stay within himself".  


Betances hasn't shown me that he has the makeup to be a closer.  He has some 'tude, but it's not warranted here.  That said, we all miss Miller.  That trade better pan out to be the biggest stroke of genius since The Yankees acquired Babe Ruth, or people will criticize it forever.


Their only hope is to win the next three or they are done.  Right now they are hanging by a thread.... and we can all say they needed wins against The Dodgers or anyone else.  But, that's all water under the bridge.  They need to come up big.





3 years ago  ::  Sep 16, 2016 - 9:53AM #3
1955nyyfan
Posts: 854

I'm not ready to give up on Betances yet. He's no doubt going through a rough spot and we have been spoiled with unbelievable closers the last 20 years. I still believe he has the stuff to get it done. I'm right with you on the offense. We clearly have too many swing and miss guys. Unless they make adjustments I don't believe we can afford to have both Judge and Austin as regulars. I suspect a healthy Bird will start at 1B and give us a player who is more of a contact hitter. I don't know how many times last night we had a runner at 3b and less than two outs only to see the batter whiff. IMO, that is what cost us the game. We should have gone into the 9th up by at least 6 runs and let Warren finish the game off.

3 years ago  ::  Sep 16, 2016 - 9:59AM #4
Carp
Posts: 5,367

Sep 16, 2016 -- 9:53AM, 1955nyyfan wrote:


I'm not ready to give up on Betances yet. He's no doubt going through a rough spot and we have been spoiled with unbelievable closers the last 20 years. I still believe he has the stuff to get it done. I'm right with you on the offense. We clearly have too many swing and miss guys. Unless they make adjustments I don't believe we can afford to have both Judge and Austin as regulars. I suspect a healthy Bird will start at 1B and give us a player who is more of a contact hitter. I don't know how many times last night we had a runner at 3b and less than two outs only to see the batter whiff. IMO, that is what cost us the game. We should have gone into the 9th up by at least 6 runs and let Warren finish the game off.




I can't argue with your statements about the offense.  John Sterling was having fits about it, everytime they failed to push runners across.  ...and rightfully so.  For once, he was on the mark.

3 years ago  ::  Sep 16, 2016 - 10:01AM #5
AlexRodriguezX
Posts: 3,903

Espada should be suspended for sending Chase home on that groundball to 2nd, I don't know what the hell he was thinking. Sanchez would have been up with bases loaded.

3 years ago  ::  Sep 16, 2016 - 10:57AM #6
Yanks21
Posts: 478

Sep 16, 2016 -- 10:01AM, AlexRodriguezX wrote:


Espada should be suspended for sending Chase home on that groundball to 2nd, I don't know what the hell he was thinking. Sanchez would have been up with bases loaded.




Espada's made some glaring mistakes the past few years (remember when Tex went off on him publicly last year?).  I think he'll be replaced as the third base coach over the winter.  

3 years ago  ::  Sep 16, 2016 - 10:57AM #7
bumper
Posts: 6,723

Sep 16, 2016 -- 10:01AM, AlexRodriguezX wrote:


Espada should be suspended for sending Chase home on that groundball to 2nd, I don't know what the hell he was thinking. Sanchez would have been up with bases loaded.




also didi should have scored on headley's single in the third. those were just the base running mistakes.

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