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Offseason Outlook: New York Yankees
2 years ago  ::  Oct 21, 2016 - 10:56AM #21
MajorYankFan
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Let’s say CC Sabathia has a similar season next year compared to this season, would you re-sign him? I think he would be good to keep around as a veteran presence for what should be a younger team in the near future.


If Sabathia repeats his 2016 in 2017, yes, absolutely I’d re-sign him. There’s the obvious risk that he’ll continue to decline with age, but pitching figures to be so hard to acquire that rolling the dice with Sabathia another year (or two?) makes sense. The Yankees know him, so there’s no concern about an adjustment period, and that’s not nothing. Also, Sabathia’s family lives in New Jersey full-time, and he might be willing to take less to stay at home. He’s not an ace anymore, but there’s always room for another average-ish innings dude at the back of the rotation. Let’s see how the 2017 season plays out, but right now, yes, I’d re-sign Sabathia if he repeats his 2016 effort in 2017.

2 years ago  ::  Oct 21, 2016 - 10:57AM #22
MajorYankFan
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Do you think the Yankees could turn to the Rule 5 Draft to potentially patch up the middle relief corps? The Blue Jays had success taking a mediocre minor league starter and letting his stuff play up in the pen with Biagini. Could you see the Yankees doing the same? Is there anyone you would be interested in targeting?


Teams seems to be getting better at digging up quality players in the Rule 5 Draft. They’re not stars or anything, but Joe Biagini had a nice year in relief for the Blue Jays, ditto Matt Bowman with the Cardinals. Odubel Herrera has been good for the Phillies the last two years after being a Rule 5 Draft pick. The problem for the Yankees is 40-man roster space. Will they have an open 40-man spot on Rule 5 Draft day? It seems unlikely. The 40-man crunch is real. If they don’t have an open spot, they can’t make a pick. My guess is the 40-man will be full this winter, but if it isn’t, sure, they would look to add a bullpen arm in the Rule 5 Draft.

2 years ago  ::  Oct 21, 2016 - 10:57AM #23
MajorYankFan
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I know a retired number is unlikely, but is it possible that Teixeira gets a plaque in Monument Park?


Possible but unlikely, I’d say. Mark Teixeira was a very good player for the Yankees overall, but he only had one truly great full season, and just the one World Series title. Don’t get me wrong, the World Series is cool, though it would probably take two or three rings for Teixeira to get serious Monument Park consideration. The Yankees have been pretty liberal with plaques in recent years, so maybe he gets in. I would be surprised though.

2 years ago  ::  Oct 21, 2016 - 11:01AM #24
MajorYankFan
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Gleyber Torres  #1 on the BA prospect sheet this weeK:

The Scoop: The Yankees’ prize for sending Aroldis Chapman to the Cubs continues to shine in the AFL. Torres is a powerful hitter who’s shown the ability to hit for both average and power as well as the ability to stick at shortstop. He hit his first AFL home run to the opposite field and his second to the pull-side alley. He is ready for his first taste of the upper levels next season at Double-A Trenton.

2 years ago  ::  Oct 21, 2016 - 11:03AM #25
MajorYankFan
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Gleyber Torres and Jorge Mateo are two highly rated SS prospects currently on the Yankees Tampa class A farm team. Can you compare and contrast their abilities and potential upside since the their scouting reports seem similar in content? Also, why did the Yankees assign Torres to the AzFL and not Mateo?




I don’t really have an answer for the Arizona Fall League question. The Yankees are giving Torres time at second base and they may have felt the AzFL was a good chance to get him reps there. In some cases, like Greg Bird, it’s easy to understand in the AzFL assignment. In others it’s not so clear. It’s not arbitrary though. The Yankees have their reasons.




Torres is a better prospect than Mateo. For starters, he just out-performed him at the same level (by a lot) despite being 18 months younger. I mean, hitting .273/.355/.428 (121 wRC+) with 33 doubles, 13 homers, 24 steals, 10.5% walks, and 20.4% strikeouts as a 19-year-old in the Florida State League is nuts. Torres had an unbelievable season in 2016. Mateo had pretty much the exact opposite.




Let’s compare Torres’ and Mateo’s scouting grades using the 20-80 scouting scale. Quick primer: 20 is terrible, 50 is average, and 80 is great. Here are their MLB.com and FanGraphs grades (MLB/FG).

HitPowerRunThrowFieldOverall
Torres 55/50 50/50 55/50 60/55 55/55 55/45
Mateo 55/50 45/45 80/80 60/55 55/55 55/50
Advantage Push Torres Mateo Push Push Mateo?



These are future grades, not present grades. A present 55 hit tool means you’d expect these guys to hit like .275 in MLB right now, and no. Just, no.




Anyway, these two are pretty close! Mateo has a major advantage in speed but Torres has a touch more power. I’m a bit surprised to see FanGraphs so low on Torres’ overall future potential (45), though they’re the outlier. Almost every report on Torres has been glowing. The bottom line is both guys are excellent prospects. Torres had a better 2016 season and is younger, which is why he’s more highly rated at the moment. The Yankees have both, so this isn’t an either/or situation. Having two great shortstop prospects is pretty awesome.



2 years ago  ::  Oct 21, 2016 - 5:38PM #26
GottaGoToMo
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This thread should be pinned ... looks like it's the off-season thread.

2 years ago  ::  Oct 21, 2016 - 6:12PM #27
GottaGoToMo
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Oct 19, 2016 -- 11:05AM, MajorYankFan wrote:





Well with the pinning of this thread looks like someone has been nominated to do the off-season thread ... I'm sure many of us will pitch in to help ... and I know many of us would be most appreciative of any posting you can do to keep us informed of the off-season Yankee information.  Thank you for creating the thread.

2 years ago  ::  Oct 21, 2016 - 6:17PM #28
laurenfrances
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Before the Yankees received prized prospects Clint Frazier and Justus Sheffield from the Indians for Andrew Miller and Gleyber Torres from the Cubs for Aroldis Chapman at the trade deadline, Gary Sanchez and Jorge Mateo were considered the club’s top prospects.


The arrival of the new players strengthened a minor league system that had gotten stronger in recent years.


What the new blood also did was overshadow Miguel Andujar, who is impressing scouts during the early part of the Arizona Fall League.


“He can swing the bat, plays the game hard and the right way,’’ a scout said of Andujar, a 21-year-old third baseman from the Dominican Republic who played for Single-A Tampa and Double-A Trenton this past season. “He has a chance to be a big league player.’’


In a very small sample size (five games going into Thursday night), the 6-foot, 175-pound Andujar — a righty hitter — was batting .375 (6-for-16) with a .974 OPS for the Scottsdale Scorpions.


That strong start followed a solid minor league season in which Andujar played 58 games for Tampa and 72 games for Trenton. He combined for a .273 average, 12 homers, 83 RBIs and a .332 on-base percentage.


At 21, Andujar was 3.3 years younger than the average Eastern League player, but wasn’t overwhelmed at Trenton, hitting .266 and driving in 42 runs in 72 games.


In five seasons in the Yankees’ organization, Andujar has gained the respect of teammates and coaches for a professional attitude.


It’s unlikely Andujar will supplant Chase Headley at third base during the 2017 season. But what were the odds, at this time a year ago, Sanchez would do that to Brian McCann this past season?


Sanchez played in 71 games at Triple-A Scranton/Wilkes-Barre this summer before being elevated to the big leagues and with his sizzling bat, turned McCann, a seven-time All-Star, into a bench player.


As for Torres, also on the Scorpions, the same scout said he was impressed with the shortstop’s tools, but detected a need to be more patient at the plate.


“[Torres] has a lot of talent, [is] a little out of control swing-wise and [with] plate discipline,’’ the scout said of the 19-year-old right-handed hitter. “I would say he is similar to a young Starlin Castro. The ball jumps off his bat. He has a little trouble identifying the breaking ball, but when he hits it he hits it very hard.’’


Talent evaluators who have seen Torres and Mateo believe Torres has surpassed Mateo in terms of being a better prospect. Before Torres was acquired, the Yankees played Mateo at short and second base for Tampa. During instructional league play, the 21-year-old Mateo appeared in center field. He isn’t playing in the AFL.


Tyler Wade, another shortstop prospect, whom the Yankees took in the fourth round of the 2013 draft, is getting time in center field for Scottsdale. He will turn 22 late next month.

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2 years ago  ::  Oct 21, 2016 - 6:21PM #29
laurenfrances
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Let’s get this straight. Pitching prospect Dillon Tate, a No. 4 pick in the 2015 draft whom the Yankees acquired Aug. 1 from the Rangers in the Carlos Beltran deal, is a “nice kid” with a good arm and a strong work ethic, but he also “can’t pitch,” according to one scout.


Huh?


The veteran scout, who — according to NJ.com — has deep knowledge of the Yankees farm system, understands why teams marvel at the 22-year-old’s rocket arm, but he’s not convinced the right-hander has what it takes to match their high expectations.


“I can’t get into too much of why I know this, but if Tate doesn’t change his pre-game and if he doesn’t change how he goes about his work, he’ll never succeed … period,” the scout told the website before a Yankees’ Arizona Fall League game.


“He works hard. It’s not his work ethic. It’s how he works. It’s what he does and his stubbornness in it. If he doesn’t change that, he won’t succeed.”


While general manager Brian Cashman feels the rebuilding Yankees struck gold with Tate, they started him off slowly in the bullpen after 16 of his 17 appearances for Texas’ Single-A affiliate came as a starter.


The 6-foot-2 flamethrower struck out 16 in his first two starts of the minor-league season, but after a hamstring injury sidelined him for three weeks, Tate’s return to the mound was a disaster. His velocity dropped from high 90s to low 90s, and he went 3-3 with a 5.12 ERA in 17 outings.


Those alarming numbers sent Tate to the bullpen, where the scout says he belongs.


“The Yankees didn’t make out on the Beltran trade,” he said. “The Rangers absolutely thought Tate was going to be a starter when they drafted him, and I could see why. Tate has a great arm. And he’s a nice kid. A great kid. But Tate’s a guy who’s stubborn in the way that he goes about it, and unless he changes that, it ain’t going to happen for him.”


Tate’s numbers with the Scottsdale Scorpions in the Fall League have mirrored his minor-league struggles — allowing four runs in three innings over two appearances.


Attitude aside, the scout largely blames Tate’s mechanics for his poor results.


“You can either spin the ball or you can’t,” the scout said.


“He is too fastball reliant,” he added.


And with that, this scout showed his reviews are as circuitous as the Yankees’ starting-pitching carousel.



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2 years ago  ::  Oct 21, 2016 - 7:03PM #30
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Thank you Major for the thread, and others for their contributions.  It is pinned so all can have ready access to it during this offseason.




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