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Climate Change is Real
2 years ago  ::  Apr 24, 2017 - 12:22PM #1
GottaGoToMo
Posts: 74,139
Anyone that doesn't believe in it is a fool.


Multiple studies published in peer-reviewed scientific journals1 show that 97 percent or more of actively publishing climate scientists agree: Climate-warming trends over the past century are extremely likely due to human activities. In addition, most of the leading scientific organizations worldwide have issued public statements endorsing this position. The following is a partial list of these organizations, along with links to their published statements and a selection of related resources.


climate.nasa.gov/scientific-consensus/
2 years ago  ::  Apr 24, 2017 - 12:34PM #2
louisiana_lightning
Posts: 13,151
I don't have a problem with the theory of global warming.  I have a problem with the unscientific government solutions.  I want the government to leave it to the marketplace and courts to resolve it.  I hope that government activity crowds out innovation and hurts all of us.  It is overreach
2 years ago  ::  Apr 24, 2017 - 12:38PM #3
craner7
Posts: 22,001

We'll see. I well remember the " experts " saying we're headed to an ice age again 40 yrs ago.

2 years ago  ::  Apr 24, 2017 - 1:01PM #4
NW
Posts: 13,046

The "experts" once said the world was flat too.  The mere fact that there are peer reviewed scientific studies that discredit the human influence on climate change is significant.  The other fact that's buried in that 97% is that not all of the 97% believe in everything that some climatologists are trying to push, simply that human influence plays "some part" in climate change, which I'm sure is true of every organism on the planet.

2 years ago  ::  Apr 24, 2017 - 1:16PM #5
GottaGoToMo
Posts: 74,139

Well, can't help people that are going to believe in 3% of scientists over 97% of scientists ... anyone that does that just has blinders on.

2 years ago  ::  Apr 24, 2017 - 1:21PM #6
dixieyank
Posts: 5,286

Apr 24, 2017 -- 1:16PM, GottaGoToMo wrote:


Well, can't help people that are going to believe in 3% of scientists over 97% of scientists ... anyone that does that just has blinders on.




If you go digging around enough (which most people don't care to do), you may find that a good percentage of those 3% are being paid in some amount by oil/gas/coal. I know of one prominent one that is, and all that person does is cast doubt and muddy waters, without actually ever having done any field research at all. 

2 years ago  ::  Apr 24, 2017 - 1:23PM #7
GottaGoToMo
Posts: 74,139

Apr 24, 2017 -- 1:21PM, dixieyank wrote:


Apr 24, 2017 -- 1:16PM, GottaGoToMo wrote:


Well, can't help people that are going to believe in 3% of scientists over 97% of scientists ... anyone that does that just has blinders on.




If you go digging around enough (which most people don't care to do), you may find that a good percentage of those 3% are being paid in some amount by oil/gas/coal. I know of one prominent one that is, and all that person does is cast doubt and muddy waters, without actually ever having done any field research at all. 




I presumed that was the case ... but I didn't want to say anything without actual proof.

2 years ago  ::  Apr 24, 2017 - 1:29PM #8
realglenn
Posts: 2,690

One word:


Globaloney.

2 years ago  ::  Apr 24, 2017 - 1:34PM #9
louisiana_lightning
Posts: 13,151

Apr 24, 2017 -- 1:21PM, dixieyank wrote:


Apr 24, 2017 -- 1:16PM, GottaGoToMo wrote:


Well, can't help people that are going to believe in 3% of scientists over 97% of scientists ... anyone that does that just has blinders on.




If you go digging around enough (which most people don't care to do), you may find that a good percentage of those 3% are being paid in some amount by oil/gas/coal. I know of one prominent one that is, and all that person does is cast doubt and muddy waters, without actually ever having done any field research at all. 


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If you go digging around enough you will find a good percentage of the 97% owe a debt of gratitude to governments for their research studies.  It certainly would amplify the importance of their research if it results in legislation.

2 years ago  ::  Apr 24, 2017 - 1:36PM #10
NW
Posts: 13,046

Apr 24, 2017 -- 1:16PM, GottaGoToMo wrote:


Well, can't help people that are going to believe in 3% of scientists over 97% of scientists ... anyone that does that just has blinders on.




Would you have said the same thing about the 3% of scientists that believed the world was round way back when?


The point about climate change is this.  Yes, the climate on our rock is changing.  There are several factors at play.  A couple of those factors are beyond our control (i.e. position of earth, temperature of sun, seismic activity to a great extent, etc.).  The increase in CO2 exhalers on the planet well above that in recorded history is another factor that we can control, but we're probably not as willing to do so.  


The real quesiton is what we can do about climate change and that is where, when you dig deeper into the "97%", you see a lot of disagreement.  Even within that 97%, there are many that believe the non-human factors far outweigh the human factors and our efforts to change the human factors will have little effect, though they do acknowledge the human factors.  Some of that 97% believe the human factors are the major cause for acceleration in climate change and we can do something to change the world through limiting unnatural carbon dioxide emissions.  


Personally, I think the truth lies somewhere in the middle.  No matter what we do, this planet will become uninhabitable at some point in time or life as we know it will adapt to the changing conditions.  Life can only exist, as far as we know, on a sliver of the climate scale that planets can assume.  The organisms of life can adapt but at some point they won't be able to.  The human race will go the way of the dinosaur and life will sprout up in a different form, either on Earth or some other location that then becomes conducive to life forms.  With that said, I think we should do what we can to keep this miracle that we call life intact for as long as we can be on the ride.  That includes safe and efficient use of all resources and using replenishible resources.

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