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Betances as part of a potential package for Sonny Gray?
3 years ago  ::  Jul 20, 2017 - 6:05PM #11
qwik3457
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Jul 20, 2017 -- 5:33PM, yankoldfan wrote:


Jul 20, 2017 -- 5:16PM, qwik3457 wrote:


Jul 20, 2017 -- 4:20PM, ssmikey07 wrote:


Betances has looked horrible lately. Great movement on his pitches, but no control. I think he's a head case and needs to be moved.




If that's so, why would any GM give the Yankees a usable starting pitcher for him?




Ca$hman is never going to show his hole card, would you expect him to say I shopping Betances ?? If he didn't get a trade it would always be in the back of Betances head, they didn't want me, they tried to move me, just think how big of head case he would be then, that's if everyone thinks he's a head case to start with...




Not sure if I'm understanding you correctly, but even if Cashman somehow manages to keep the information that he's shopping Betances out of the media, he'd still have to tell other GMs he's available in order to be "shopping" Betances, wouldn't he?

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3 years ago  ::  Jul 20, 2017 - 6:17PM #12
1961wasfun
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A big thank you Lauren for posting that! One would think that would be the end of the Betances trade nonsense but I see that's not the case. Cash was pretty adamant about Dellin and that's good enough for me. A lot has changed in baseball over the decades but the old saying of you can never have enough pitching still holds true. In fact now more than ever.

3 years ago  ::  Jul 20, 2017 - 10:51PM #13
kurosawa
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It doesn't matter, they're not going anywhere anyway. They're just good enough to never get any better.

3 years ago  ::  Jul 21, 2017 - 12:24AM #14
dupaness53
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i would not put much stock in what a yankee hating loser like ken rosenthal has to say what does he know anyway? he was probably the loser who got picked last in gym class anyway lolYell

3 years ago  ::  Jul 21, 2017 - 3:26AM #15
qwik3457
Posts: 11,976

Jul 20, 2017 -- 10:51PM, kurosawa wrote:


It doesn't matter, they're not going anywhere anyway. They're just good enough to never get any better.




Never get any better? Never?

Knowledge is Good -- Emil Faber
3 years ago  ::  Jul 21, 2017 - 7:23AM #16
yankoldfan
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Jul 20, 2017 -- 6:05PM, qwik3457 wrote:


Jul 20, 2017 -- 5:33PM, yankoldfan wrote:


Jul 20, 2017 -- 5:16PM, qwik3457 wrote:


Jul 20, 2017 -- 4:20PM, ssmikey07 wrote:


Betances has looked horrible lately. Great movement on his pitches, but no control. I think he's a head case and needs to be moved.




If that's so, why would any GM give the Yankees a usable starting pitcher for him?




Ca$hman is never going to show his hole card, would you expect him to say I shopping Betances ?? If he didn't get a trade it would always be in the back of Betances head, they didn't want me, they tried to move me, just think how big of head case he would be then, that's if everyone thinks he's a head case to start with...




Not sure if I'm understanding you correctly, but even if Cashman somehow manages to keep the information that he's shopping Betances out of the media, he'd still have to tell other GMs he's available in order to be "shopping" Betances, wouldn't he?




Lots of things go on behind closed doors, phone calls, and so much more.. All I'm saying is Ca$hman is not going to blow off that they are shopping Betances, that would not be good for Betances or for anyone else... I'm not saying it's going to happen, but right now we have an abundance of very good arms in this BP and if they are going to go after a top end starter Betances could be part of a deal...

3 years ago  ::  Jul 21, 2017 - 10:37AM #17
Lulu
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because  Heyman said that the 2 teams have spoken , fans are now playing fantasy baseball.


over at MLB Trade, there is nothing  new about this . Nothing but the speculation about Darvish.


this is  supposed to be a  Yankee fan . I suppose this is someone who knows someone who works for their neigbors  boss.  LOL You get the idea. Translation : not  exactly a reliable source.



Yanks and Oakland are apparently close to a deal to send Gray to the Yanks package will most likely include Mateo, Acevedo, and others Clint Frazier and Torres are NOT in this deal.

3 years ago  ::  Jul 21, 2017 - 10:44AM #18
louisiana_lightning
Posts: 18,676

Jul 21, 2017 -- 10:37AM, Lulu wrote:


because  Heyman said that the 2 teams have spoken , fans are now playing fantasy baseball.


over at MLB Trade, there is nothing  new about this . Nothing but the speculation about Darvish.


this is  supposed to be a  Yankee fan . I suppose this is someone who knows someone who works for their neigbors  boss.  LOL You get the idea. Translation : not  exactly a reliable source.



Yanks and Oakland are apparently close to a deal to send Gray to the Yanks package will most likely include Mateo, Acevedo, and others Clint Frazier and Torres are NOT in this deal.




No thanks, I have dreams of Mateo being like a 2007 BJ Upton roving between 2B and CF, you know back before he went by Melvin and he became trash.

3 years ago  ::  Jul 21, 2017 - 10:46AM #19
ArtVandelay
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Jul 20, 2017 -- 10:35PM, judgernaut wrote:

Cadman said he has no interest in trading Betances.. good Leave it to Yankee fans to wanna get rid of like a 25 year old 4x all star because of one bad month lmaooo wtf



he's almost 30

3 years ago  ::  Jul 21, 2017 - 2:45PM #20
yank0428
Posts: 18,136

Jul 21, 2017 -- 10:46AM, ArtVandelay wrote:


Jul 20, 2017 -- 10:35PM, judgernaut wrote:

Cadman said he has no interest in trading Betances.. good Leave it to Yankee fans to wanna get rid of like a 25 year old 4x all star because of one bad month lmaooo wtf



he's almost 30




Don't let that get in the way of him making his point.

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