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Kyle Schwarber
2 weeks ago  ::  Nov 10, 2017 - 8:37AM #31
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Nov 9, 2017 -- 11:34PM, kyloren wrote:


Nov 9, 2017 -- 9:47PM, dixieyank wrote:


Nov 9, 2017 -- 9:24PM, newinn wrote:


I have to admit,I'm surprised that everyone here is blowing this kid off after a bad season. Most everyone here wanted him last year and I remember how much everyone wanted him in the Chapman deal. Again depending on the cost, I think he would look good as a DH in the middle of that lineup. 



Put it this way: If he wasn't left handed, nobody would even be considering it IMO.


If the Cubs were willing to trade him for what his apparent value is currently, then perhaps. But everytime he's mentioned, it seems they want a king's ransom for him. No thanks.


He looks closer to a Carlos Pena than a Big Papi in my eyes. And he already looks heavy at a young age. 




he hit 30 HR's in 2017 I would take that every day of the week and twice on Sunday!




riffing off what LL said, chris carter hit 41 HR the previous season, actually plays a position and cost us no players yet people were running him out of town. not sure i see a difference. he's young and there's potential but wouldn't give up much for him. i'm sure cash will kick those tires.

2 weeks ago  ::  Nov 10, 2017 - 9:10AM #32
louisiana_lightning
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Nov 10, 2017 -- 8:31AM, newinn wrote:


Nov 10, 2017 -- 8:04AM, louisiana_lightning wrote:


Nov 10, 2017 -- 7:22AM, newinn wrote:


well, somewhere along the line,the Yankees are going to need to find a power lefthanded bat to balance out the lineup. Right now you have power from Bird and that's it. Frazier will be Gardners or Ellsbury's  eventual replacement in left. I wouldn't be opposed to moving Frazier in a package for another young lefty hitter




That's all well and good and I suggested just paying a versatile veteran like Avila or Montero but Schwarber has a .119/.275/.143 split in games against lefty starters last season.  He may be a straight platoon now since he is a liability in the field.  Didi Gregorius would likely be more of a lefty power bat than him in 2018.  Unless he figures something out soon Scwarber will be as fun to watch for the fans as Stephen Drew or Chris Carter.




LL as you know I'm far more patient with young players then a lot of fans.  Heck look how many quit on Judge after his disaterous 2016 season. I don't think Avila is going to want to sit behind Sanchez or be a straight DH but who knows




The question is how is the knee?  I like the idea of a veteran catcher back-up with a potent bat because you never know when injuries will happen and Sanchez is human, I think he played his best defense when he was taking the job from an over paid McCann.  Romine doesn't provide the same incentive, there is little threat that he can be relegated to DH for a while.  If Scwarber can play his nature position and be Sanchez's back-up without ever playing in our outfield it could be a good fit.  Mentoring Scwarber behind the plate could even have the same effect on Sanchez's defense.

2 weeks ago  ::  Nov 10, 2017 - 9:19AM #33
judgernaut
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Kylo, TONS of people like your idea?

First off this is not your idea it's been thrown around before, I even saw it a couple days ago on bleacher report

2nd seems like way more people here are against it than for it.. How do you argue 30 HRs? Guess that means Chris Carter is a god.. How do YOU argue a 211 avg

If you'd take giving up prospects over straight up buying Otani you have a severe mental deficiency.. Sorry bout your feelings brah
2 weeks ago  ::  Nov 10, 2017 - 9:24AM #34
newinn
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Nov 10, 2017 -- 9:19AM, judgernaut wrote:

Kylo, TONS of people like your idea? First off this is not your idea it's been thrown around before, I even saw it a couple days ago on bleacher report 2nd seems like way more people here are against it than for it.. How do you argue 30 HRs? Guess that means Chris Carter is a god.. How do YOU argue a 211 avg If you'd take giving up prospects over straight up buying Otani you have a severe mental deficiency.. Sorry bout your feelings brah



Big difference between a guy that had established numbers over a career and a young kid. I like the idea of getting Otani but I have no idea how he would be used and neither does anyone else here

2 weeks ago  ::  Nov 10, 2017 - 9:25AM #35
louisiana_lightning
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Would the Cubs take Brett Gardner straight up for Schwarber?  The Cubs have no outfield depth and we added Cave to the 40 man roster.  With a guaranteed year and an option year left on Gardy it could be a fair trade.

2 weeks ago  ::  Nov 10, 2017 - 9:28AM #36
louisiana_lightning
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Nov 10, 2017 -- 9:24AM, newinn wrote:


Nov 10, 2017 -- 9:19AM, judgernaut wrote:

Kylo, TONS of people like your idea? First off this is not your idea it's been thrown around before, I even saw it a couple days ago on bleacher report 2nd seems like way more people here are against it than for it.. How do you argue 30 HRs? Guess that means Chris Carter is a god.. How do YOU argue a 211 avg If you'd take giving up prospects over straight up buying Otani you have a severe mental deficiency.. Sorry bout your feelings brah



Big difference between a guy that had established numbers over a career and a young kid. I like the idea of getting Otani but I have no idea how he would be used and neither does anyone else here




I tend to think he has to pick one or the other.  Any appearances in the latter would just be novelty.  It's almost impossible to run a position player out there daily anymore.  Could you imagine a Japanese starter coming off of a sixth man rotation and an injury that cost him most of the season?  Would any manager dare DH him the day after a start?  Would they hit and run with him on the bases?

2 weeks ago  ::  Nov 10, 2017 - 9:30AM #37
newinn
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Nov 10, 2017 -- 9:25AM, louisiana_lightning wrote:


Would the Cubs take Brett Gardner straight up for Schwarber?  The Cubs have no outfield depth and we added Cave to the 40 man roster.  With a guaranteed year and an option year left on Gardy it could be a fair trade.




I seriously doubt Gardner would be enough. Again I'm not suggesting we have to have Schwaber but I do hope Cashman seriously kicks the tires on him. The lineup would be better if there was a little more balance in the power dept and I think Schwarber could potentially be that guy. Plus he's cheap now

2 weeks ago  ::  Nov 10, 2017 - 9:56AM #38
yank0428
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Nov 10, 2017 -- 9:30AM, newinn wrote:


Nov 10, 2017 -- 9:25AM, louisiana_lightning wrote:


Would the Cubs take Brett Gardner straight up for Schwarber?  The Cubs have no outfield depth and we added Cave to the 40 man roster.  With a guaranteed year and an option year left on Gardy it could be a fair trade.




I seriously doubt Gardner would be enough. Again I'm not suggesting we have to have Schwaber but I do hope Cashman seriously kicks the tires on him. The lineup would be better if there was a little more balance in the power dept and I think Schwarber could potentially be that guy. Plus he's cheap now




I agree if the need is there that it's a good time to try to get Schwarber. Like Judge with his struggles the talent is there with Schwarber. I think he will be a force. I also think the Cubs will still want a big return. Young prospects. I just don't think he's needed because he is a DH. He's not a catcher or a good outfielder. If the Yanks sign Otani which is what I want there is no need for Schwarber. Otani can DH along with Sanchez , Judge and others needing a day off from the field.


 The direction I want Cashman to go is to upgrade backup catcher. Romine is OK but he's no bat and doesnt have a great arm. I want Sanchez to DH more. Not get beat up behind the plate with the value his bat brings. Get a good back up like Avilia or Lucroy who can also play 1st to backup Bird and hit enough to DH. Doubt the Yanks spend the money to do that but that's the way I'd go.


 Hope this works out with Otani. Should be really interesting to see this evolve. Not making a lot of money. Can take CC's slot and he can hit. If he's the real deal what better show in baseball then the Yanks with Judge, Sanchez and Otani with more young talent close like Torres. 


 I wouldn't be adverse to trading Frazier for a need. Not sure about his swing,the whole weight on his front foot is strange and hard to correct but the Yanks don't have many needs if they sign Otani.

2 weeks ago  ::  Nov 10, 2017 - 9:57AM #39
bomberhojoe
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Personally, I think Gardner for Schwarber is overpaying. I'll take Gardner any day over Schwarber.
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2 weeks ago  ::  Nov 10, 2017 - 10:11AM #40
newinn
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Nov 10, 2017 -- 9:56AM, yank0428 wrote:


Nov 10, 2017 -- 9:30AM, newinn wrote:


Nov 10, 2017 -- 9:25AM, louisiana_lightning wrote:


Would the Cubs take Brett Gardner straight up for Schwarber?  The Cubs have no outfield depth and we added Cave to the 40 man roster.  With a guaranteed year and an option year left on Gardy it could be a fair trade.




I seriously doubt Gardner would be enough. Again I'm not suggesting we have to have Schwaber but I do hope Cashman seriously kicks the tires on him. The lineup would be better if there was a little more balance in the power dept and I think Schwarber could potentially be that guy. Plus he's cheap now




I agree if the need is there that it's a good time to try to get Schwarber. Like Judge with his struggles the talent is there with Schwarber. I think he will be a force. I also think the Cubs will still want a big return. Young prospects. I just don't think he's needed because he is a DH. He's not a catcher or a good outfielder. If the Yanks sign Otani which is what I want there is no need for Schwarber. Otani can DH along with Sanchez , Judge and others needing a day off from the field.


 The direction I want Cashman to go is to upgrade backup catcher. Romine is OK but he's no bat and doesnt have a great arm. I want Sanchez to DH more. Not get beat up behind the plate with the value his bat brings. Get a good back up like Avilia or Lucroy who can also play 1st to backup Bird and hit enough to DH. Doubt the Yanks spend the money to do that but that's the way I'd go.


 Hope this works out with Otani. Should be really interesting to see this evolve. Not making a lot of money. Can take CC's slot and he can hit. If he's the real deal what better show in baseball then the Yanks with Judge, Sanchez and Otani with more young talent close like Torres. 


 I wouldn't be adverse to trading Frazier for a need. Not sure about his swing,the whole weight on his front foot is strange and hard to correct but the Yanks don't have many needs if they sign Otani.




I want Otani also but I still don't know if he's a hitter or a pitcher. I seriously doubt the Yakees would use him as both

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