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Kyle Schwarber
1 week ago  ::  Nov 10, 2017 - 10:14AM #41
newinn
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Nov 10, 2017 -- 9:57AM, bomberhojoe wrote:

Personally, I think Gardner for Schwarber is overpaying. I'll take Gardner any day over Schwarber.



Gardy is 34 and his game still rely's on his legs. You know he's my favorite Yankee but you'd be giving up 1 or 2 years of productivity for a potential of many years of a very good bat. Cubs would be crazy to make that move and there's no way they would

1 week ago  ::  Nov 10, 2017 - 10:14AM #42
yankoldfan
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If the Cubs trade Schwarber they'll most like want a cheap up and coming young talent in any deal, I can't see them taking on Gardner and his salary... Gardner isn't the most liked player in the eyes of some fans but, he's been more valuable than they would like to admit to this team.. I think the only way someone trades with us for Gardner is if they need an outfielder, not for a back up one...

1 week ago  ::  Nov 10, 2017 - 10:26AM #43
yank0428
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Nov 10, 2017 -- 10:11AM, newinn wrote:


Nov 10, 2017 -- 9:56AM, yank0428 wrote:


Nov 10, 2017 -- 9:30AM, newinn wrote:


Nov 10, 2017 -- 9:25AM, louisiana_lightning wrote:


Would the Cubs take Brett Gardner straight up for Schwarber?  The Cubs have no outfield depth and we added Cave to the 40 man roster.  With a guaranteed year and an option year left on Gardy it could be a fair trade.




I seriously doubt Gardner would be enough. Again I'm not suggesting we have to have Schwaber but I do hope Cashman seriously kicks the tires on him. The lineup would be better if there was a little more balance in the power dept and I think Schwarber could potentially be that guy. Plus he's cheap now




I agree if the need is there that it's a good time to try to get Schwarber. Like Judge with his struggles the talent is there with Schwarber. I think he will be a force. I also think the Cubs will still want a big return. Young prospects. I just don't think he's needed because he is a DH. He's not a catcher or a good outfielder. If the Yanks sign Otani which is what I want there is no need for Schwarber. Otani can DH along with Sanchez , Judge and others needing a day off from the field.


 The direction I want Cashman to go is to upgrade backup catcher. Romine is OK but he's no bat and doesnt have a great arm. I want Sanchez to DH more. Not get beat up behind the plate with the value his bat brings. Get a good back up like Avilia or Lucroy who can also play 1st to backup Bird and hit enough to DH. Doubt the Yanks spend the money to do that but that's the way I'd go.


 Hope this works out with Otani. Should be really interesting to see this evolve. Not making a lot of money. Can take CC's slot and he can hit. If he's the real deal what better show in baseball then the Yanks with Judge, Sanchez and Otani with more young talent close like Torres. 


 I wouldn't be adverse to trading Frazier for a need. Not sure about his swing,the whole weight on his front foot is strange and hard to correct but the Yanks don't have many needs if they sign Otani.




I want Otani also but I still don't know if he's a hitter or a pitcher. I seriously doubt the Yakees would use him as both




Just read another scouting report on him and it's off the charts for both, overall higher as a pitcher but he can even run and makeup is good. I think any team who signs him will have to promise to give him a shot to do both.If not he will go to the team that does. I really would like to see him in pinstripes. I think eventually he will settle in at one position or the other but still will really like to see it. The report had scouts saying that the Japanese club really treated him well. Brought him along the right way, not putting a lot of innings on his arm right away like they did with Darvish and Tanaka. His highest inning count was 160.

1 week ago  ::  Nov 10, 2017 - 10:43AM #44
Lulu
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He is just a bat.
1 week ago  ::  Nov 10, 2017 - 11:53AM #45
MAX
Posts: 34,274

Nov 9, 2017 -- 3:21PM, newinn wrote:


I've seen some rumors about that.Olney actually mentioned it yesterday. He could be special in the Stadium. Depends on what they'd have to giveup




If the Yankees traded for him they would have 3 guys (Judge, Schwarber, Sanchez) in their line up that have the power to hit 50 HR's each. But Schwarber's strikeouts are high and his batting average is low. The Cubs would probably want a young starting Pitcher in return. 


I think the DH should be left open for Otani because he's a better fit for the Yankees and he would balance the Yankee line up. Plus, the Yankees don't have to trade any players for him. 

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1 week ago  ::  Nov 10, 2017 - 1:18PM #46
yank0428
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Nov 10, 2017 -- 11:53AM, MAX wrote:


Nov 9, 2017 -- 3:21PM, newinn wrote:


I've seen some rumors about that.Olney actually mentioned it yesterday. He could be special in the Stadium. Depends on what they'd have to giveup




If the Yankees traded for him they would have 3 guys (Judge, Schwarber, Sanchez) in their line up that have the power to hit 50 HR's each. But Schwarber's strikeouts are high and his batting average is low. The Cubs would probably want a young starting Pitcher in return. 


I think the DH should be left open for Otani because he's a better fit for the Yankees and he would balance the Yankee line up. Plus, the Yankees don't have to trade any players for him. 




I agree Max. I think Sanchez should also get some time at DH and bring in a decent backup catcher who can also play 1st. Sanchez bat is to valueable to get beat up catching 130 games.

1 week ago  ::  Nov 11, 2017 - 11:51AM #47
MAX
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Nov 10, 2017 -- 1:18PM, yank0428 wrote:


Nov 10, 2017 -- 11:53AM, MAX wrote:


Nov 9, 2017 -- 3:21PM, newinn wrote:


I've seen some rumors about that.Olney actually mentioned it yesterday. He could be special in the Stadium. Depends on what they'd have to giveup




If the Yankees traded for him they would have 3 guys (Judge, Schwarber, Sanchez) in their line up that have the power to hit 50 HR's each. But Schwarber's strikeouts are high and his batting average is low. The Cubs would probably want a young starting Pitcher in return. 


I think the DH should be left open for Otani because he's a better fit for the Yankees and he would balance the Yankee line up. Plus, the Yankees don't have to trade any players for him. 




I agree Max. I think Sanchez should also get some time at DH and bring in a decent backup catcher who can also play 1st. Sanchez bat is to valueable to get beat up catching 130 games.




Don't get me wrong, the Yankees trading for Schwarber is intriguing. But besides Otani being a better fit for the Yankees, Schwarber doesn't have the speed to play LF in Yankee Stadium. I'm not sure about his catching skills, so he appears to be strictly a DH on the Yankees. 


I'm not sure if the Yankees agree with me, but Sanchez can get his DH at bats when Otani is Pitching. 

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1 week ago  ::  Nov 11, 2017 - 9:52PM #48
davis2
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Nov 9, 2017 -- 3:44PM, thejudge17 wrote:

3 way trade- Yankees get shwarber, Desmond, almonds, cubs get Freeland and Dunn, Rockies get shreve, betances and ells


Were you stoned when you posted this?   We have to give up more than that.

1 week ago  ::  Nov 12, 2017 - 6:29AM #49
thejudge17
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How do you figure? The Rockies are losing McGhee, possibly Holland and meshes. They swap out Desmond for ells (Desmond had negative war while ells was almost close to 2) they get either a closer or set up man in betances and get a cost controlled lefty in shreve. Cubs inherit Dunns contract while adding to their bullpen and while adding a cost controlled starter. It fills needs for every team involved
1 week ago  ::  Nov 12, 2017 - 10:20AM #50
thejudge17
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Mcgee*,neshek *
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