Jump Menu:
Post Reply
Page 6 of 6  •  Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6
Fighters posting Otani
2 weeks ago  ::  Nov 11, 2017 - 3:27PM #51
yank0428
Posts: 13,300

Nov 11, 2017 -- 1:39PM, louisiana_lightning wrote:


Nov 11, 2017 -- 10:18AM, yank0428 wrote:


Nov 11, 2017 -- 10:10AM, nystripes2 wrote:

He's not going to sign with just any team who offers him both the chance to pitch and hit. Teams WILL talk to him about that but even HE said today he will discuss that with MLB teams and it won't be a deal breaker. He's as competitive as Tanaka he will want to win



I don't see why a team wouldn't offer him that if they have the opening. He has talent as both a hitter and a pitcher. He's an athlete who has been doing both. Just because it hasn't been done since Ruth? I'd let him do it untill he proves he not excelling at one or the other. Whats the big deal about him DHing on some days he's not pitching? I could see teams not wanting him to play the field or hit on the days he's pitching. It hasn't been done since Ruth because nobody could do both at a high level. Maybe he can.




That's the thing.  The MLB is filled with players that could do both.  There are pitchers that would have likely made the majors as position players and vice versa.  Any team that does it is going to take a lot of heat when there are slumps and everyone slumps some time.  I just find it really hard to believe that he will simultaniously be our best option as a pitcher and a DH.  Then there is the matter of his health and giving him enough down time to keep him healthy and on the field.


If he does one thing particularly well and struggles at the other the calls will come in to the sports shows to end the experiment and he will get booed at home.  Will that carry over to other aspects of his game?  If he signs a contract demanding he be used a certain way I am afraid of the precedent that creates.  Remember Alfonso Soriano refusing to move to short for the Rangers, then the outfield for the Nationals?  Will we have teams being handcuffed with contracts dictating how a player is used?




LL I'm not sure about filled with players who can do both. We know there are players with good arms but does that mean they can pitch? Baumgardner can hit for a pitcher but he's a lumbering guy. I think this kid is another level. I know it's something we have never seen but I think it can be done and hope he does it for the Yanks

2 weeks ago  ::  Nov 12, 2017 - 8:02AM #52
yankoldfan
Posts: 1,786

Nov 10, 2017 -- 4:55PM, newinn wrote:


Nov 10, 2017 -- 4:24PM, yank0428 wrote:


Nov 10, 2017 -- 3:13PM, Joeybagadonutz wrote:


It's essentially up to Otani where he signs. Several teams will post the $20 Million for a chance to negotiate with him. The only other teams that I would have worried about would have been the Dodgers but they only have $300,000 to offer, same for the Astros. NY should be an easy choice for Otani. Tanaka is here, it's the biggest stage, we went deep into the playoffs andhave a good core of young talent. He'd be nuts to go anywhere else. 




Yea glad the Dodgers are out of it. It seems this kid wants the big stage. He could have waited and got a bigger payday. Now we could be wrong but it's no comparrison between the Yanks and Rangers.If he wants the big stage there is none bigger then here. With all the good young players, 2nd most money available, no full time DH, Matsui and Tanaka to recruit him the Yanks should get him. Hoping this happens. Scouts love him.




Yank, do you really believe the Yanks willlet him pitch AND play the outfield or DH? I might be wrong but I don't see it. Throw 80 pitches on pitch day then go deep in the corner in left to make a throw to 2nd the next or even 2 days later. I'd be surprised but I've been surprised before I guess




I can't see him hitting when he's pitching, and I don't see him playing in the OF, so, and I say if they let him DH it will only be when he's not pitching and it won't be an everyday thing.. Just my two cents...

2 weeks ago  ::  Nov 12, 2017 - 12:12PM #53
luvdayanks
Posts: 22,050

Nov 12, 2017 -- 8:02AM, yankoldfan wrote:


Nov 10, 2017 -- 4:55PM, newinn wrote:


Nov 10, 2017 -- 4:24PM, yank0428 wrote:


Nov 10, 2017 -- 3:13PM, Joeybagadonutz wrote:


It's essentially up to Otani where he signs. Several teams will post the $20 Million for a chance to negotiate with him. The only other teams that I would have worried about would have been the Dodgers but they only have $300,000 to offer, same for the Astros. NY should be an easy choice for Otani. Tanaka is here, it's the biggest stage, we went deep into the playoffs andhave a good core of young talent. He'd be nuts to go anywhere else. 




Yea glad the Dodgers are out of it. It seems this kid wants the big stage. He could have waited and got a bigger payday. Now we could be wrong but it's no comparrison between the Yanks and Rangers.If he wants the big stage there is none bigger then here. With all the good young players, 2nd most money available, no full time DH, Matsui and Tanaka to recruit him the Yanks should get him. Hoping this happens. Scouts love him.




Yank, do you really believe the Yanks willlet him pitch AND play the outfield or DH? I might be wrong but I don't see it. Throw 80 pitches on pitch day then go deep in the corner in left to make a throw to 2nd the next or even 2 days later. I'd be surprised but I've been surprised before I guess




I can't see him hitting when he's pitching, and I don't see him playing in the OF, so, and I say if they let him DH it will only be when he's not pitching and it won't be an everyday thing.. Just my two cents...




 That's exactly how they would use him. Anyone who thinks he would pitch, then play the next 3-4 games as DH/OF, should think again.

2 weeks ago  ::  Nov 12, 2017 - 12:26PM #54
MAX
Posts: 34,296

Nov 12, 2017 -- 8:02AM, yankoldfan wrote:


Nov 10, 2017 -- 4:55PM, newinn wrote:


Nov 10, 2017 -- 4:24PM, yank0428 wrote:


Nov 10, 2017 -- 3:13PM, Joeybagadonutz wrote:


It's essentially up to Otani where he signs. Several teams will post the $20 Million for a chance to negotiate with him. The only other teams that I would have worried about would have been the Dodgers but they only have $300,000 to offer, same for the Astros. NY should be an easy choice for Otani. Tanaka is here, it's the biggest stage, we went deep into the playoffs andhave a good core of young talent. He'd be nuts to go anywhere else. 




Yea glad the Dodgers are out of it. It seems this kid wants the big stage. He could have waited and got a bigger payday. Now we could be wrong but it's no comparrison between the Yanks and Rangers.If he wants the big stage there is none bigger then here. With all the good young players, 2nd most money available, no full time DH, Matsui and Tanaka to recruit him the Yanks should get him. Hoping this happens. Scouts love him.




Yank, do you really believe the Yanks willlet him pitch AND play the outfield or DH? I might be wrong but I don't see it. Throw 80 pitches on pitch day then go deep in the corner in left to make a throw to 2nd the next or even 2 days later. I'd be surprised but I've been surprised before I guess




I can't see him hitting when he's pitching, and I don't see him playing in the OF, so, and I say if they let him DH it will only be when he's not pitching and it won't be an everyday thing.. Just my two cents...




I agree. When Otani is pitching that's a chance for the Yankees to give Sanchez a break and let him DH.

.
2 weeks ago  ::  Nov 12, 2017 - 12:29PM #55
MAX
Posts: 34,296

Nov 11, 2017 -- 2:45PM, Joeybagadonutz wrote:

I don’t mind Headley hanging around as a vet bench player. If they can trade him that would be ideal though. They better be sure Torres is ready though if they go that route. The only other option is Andujar who is still a butcher at 3B.





Headley's contract is up after next season so maybe the Yankees keep him as a bench player, but they need to upgrade at 3B. 

.
2 weeks ago  ::  Nov 12, 2017 - 4:05PM #56
NYC_Mike7
Posts: 101

Nov 12, 2017 -- 12:12PM, luvdayanks wrote:


Nov 12, 2017 -- 8:02AM, yankoldfan wrote:


Nov 10, 2017 -- 4:55PM, newinn wrote:


Nov 10, 2017 -- 4:24PM, yank0428 wrote:


Nov 10, 2017 -- 3:13PM, Joeybagadonutz wrote:


It's essentially up to Otani where he signs. Several teams will post the $20 Million for a chance to negotiate with him. The only other teams that I would have worried about would have been the Dodgers but they only have $300,000 to offer, same for the Astros. NY should be an easy choice for Otani. Tanaka is here, it's the biggest stage, we went deep into the playoffs andhave a good core of young talent. He'd be nuts to go anywhere else. 




Yea glad the Dodgers are out of it. It seems this kid wants the big stage. He could have waited and got a bigger payday. Now we could be wrong but it's no comparrison between the Yanks and Rangers.If he wants the big stage there is none bigger then here. With all the good young players, 2nd most money available, no full time DH, Matsui and Tanaka to recruit him the Yanks should get him. Hoping this happens. Scouts love him.




Yank, do you really believe the Yanks willlet him pitch AND play the outfield or DH? I might be wrong but I don't see it. Throw 80 pitches on pitch day then go deep in the corner in left to make a throw to 2nd the next or even 2 days later. I'd be surprised but I've been surprised before I guess




I can't see him hitting when he's pitching, and I don't see him playing in the OF, so, and I say if they let him DH it will only be when he's not pitching and it won't be an everyday thing.. Just my two cents...




 That's exactly how they would use him. Anyone who thinks he would pitch, then play the next 3-4 games as DH/OF, should think again.




he did it in Japan. Don't see why he will doubt himself if he has already done it. But if I'm the Yankees or any team, I will be concerned about my investment pitching and hitting consistently. His translator in a interview I posted previously pretty much said if a team is not open to it, then he's not open to talk to them.

1 week ago  ::  Nov 12, 2017 - 4:39PM #57
ArtVandelay
Posts: 28,436

not one inning in the majors and we're letting this guy dictate both hitting and pitching...  let someone else deal with this diva...

1 week ago  ::  Nov 12, 2017 - 4:57PM #58
yank0428
Posts: 13,300

Nov 12, 2017 -- 4:39PM, ArtVandelay wrote:


not one inning in the majors and we're letting this guy dictate both hitting and pitching...  let someone else deal with this diva...




Why is he a diva ? He excelled at both in Japan and wants to continue doing both. If he wants special drinks in his locker and his own massage therapist I'd call him a diva not for wanting to play.

1 week ago  ::  Nov 12, 2017 - 6:22PM #59
misscamaguey
Posts: 5,343

He also might want to decide if he wants to go to a Team that almost made it to the WS Rangers were nowhere near. Since Tanaka decided to stay with the Yanks Otani might want to follow Tanaka and sign with the Yanks and let's not forget Japan Biggest Hideki Matsui! could be the one that convinces him.


1 week ago  ::  Nov 13, 2017 - 7:38AM #60
yankoldfan
Posts: 1,786

I think the only way he's going to find a team that will cave to him hitting as much as he wants to is a team that's not a contending one.. No team that's in the hunt for the WS, and I mean a legit team, will let him hit, pitch and play like he's on some amateur team playing in some country league... It's just not that way in the US major leagues.. Just my two cents... 

Page 6 of 6  •  Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6
Jump Menu:
 
    Viewing this thread :: 0 registered and 1 guest
    No registered users viewing

Yankees Forum