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11 months ago  ::  Nov 10, 2017 - 7:10PM #31
nystripes2
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its Yankees or Dodgers, forget the Rangers, they can only offer money.

11 months ago  ::  Nov 10, 2017 - 7:17PM #32
NYC_Mike7
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Nov 10, 2017 -- 7:10PM, nystripes2 wrote:


its Yankees or Dodgers, forget the Rangers, they can only offer money.




lol how did you base that conclusion? According to him and the rangers, they have a lot to offer. He almost signed with the Rangers when he was 18 due to the fact they were willing to let him do both. He's losing a ton of money to sign this year, but if he signs with the dodgers he would practically make nothing in his contract. Which it would definitely not happen since dodgers only have 300k. 

11 months ago  ::  Nov 10, 2017 - 7:31PM #33
nystripes2
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Nov 10, 2017 -- 7:17PM, NYC_Mike7 wrote:


Nov 10, 2017 -- 7:10PM, nystripes2 wrote:


its Yankees or Dodgers, forget the Rangers, they can only offer money.




lol how did you base that conclusion? According to him and the rangers, they have a lot to offer. He almost signed with the Rangers when he was 18 due to the fact they were willing to let him do both. He's losing a ton of money to sign this year, but if he signs with the dodgers he would practically make nothing in his contract. Which it would definitely not happen since dodgers only have 300k. 




"when he was 18"... That doesn't mean anything now that he's 24. They finished 6 games under .500 and their farm system is not very good either, what kind of future would you have?. He wants to win that has been said pretty much everywhere, no team in baseball that has been tied to him offers him that more than the Yankees and Dodgers, and they can offer him a whole lot more than the Rangers can in terms of winning, core to build with, japanese markets, endorsements, etc. I'll eat my hat if he's a Ranger.

11 months ago  ::  Nov 10, 2017 - 7:45PM #34
NYC_Mike7
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Nov 10, 2017 -- 7:31PM, nystripes2 wrote:


Nov 10, 2017 -- 7:17PM, NYC_Mike7 wrote:


Nov 10, 2017 -- 7:10PM, nystripes2 wrote:


its Yankees or Dodgers, forget the Rangers, they can only offer money.




lol how did you base that conclusion? According to him and the rangers, they have a lot to offer. He almost signed with the Rangers when he was 18 due to the fact they were willing to let him do both. He's losing a ton of money to sign this year, but if he signs with the dodgers he would practically make nothing in his contract. Which it would definitely not happen since dodgers only have 300k. 




"when he was 18"... That doesn't mean anything now that he's 24. They finished 6 games under .500 and their farm system is not very good either, what kind of future would you have?. He wants to win that has been said pretty much everywhere, no team in baseball that has been tied to him offers him that more than the Yankees and Dodgers, and they can offer him a whole lot more than the Rangers can in terms of winning, core to build with, japanese markets, endorsements, etc. I'll eat my hat if he's a Ranger.




He's 23. Go google his interview, he doesn't care about money or "winning team", his first take is letting him hit and pitch. He wont even talk to a team if they are not interested in that. No offense, but your logic is strictly opinion, no facts. Thats why he has always been intrigue with the rangers. All said and done, I want the Yankees to get him.


www.cbsnews.com/news/shohei-ohtani-babe-...

11 months ago  ::  Nov 10, 2017 - 8:55PM #35
Bats
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Nov 10, 2017 -- 4:55PM, newinn wrote:


Nov 10, 2017 -- 4:24PM, yank0428 wrote:


Nov 10, 2017 -- 3:13PM, Joeybagadonutz wrote:


It's essentially up to Otani where he signs. Several teams will post the $20 Million for a chance to negotiate with him. The only other teams that I would have worried about would have been the Dodgers but they only have $300,000 to offer, same for the Astros. NY should be an easy choice for Otani. Tanaka is here, it's the biggest stage, we went deep into the playoffs andhave a good core of young talent. He'd be nuts to go anywhere else. 




Yea glad the Dodgers are out of it. It seems this kid wants the big stage. He could have waited and got a bigger payday. Now we could be wrong but it's no comparrison between the Yanks and Rangers.If he wants the big stage there is none bigger then here. With all the good young players, 2nd most money available, no full time DH, Matsui and Tanaka to recruit him the Yanks should get him. Hoping this happens. Scouts love him.




Yank, do you really believe the Yanks willlet him pitch AND play the outfield or DH? I might be wrong but I don't see it. Throw 80 pitches on pitch day then go deep in the corner in left to make a throw to 2nd the next or even 2 days later. I'd be surprised but I've been surprised before I guess




I share that same concern.


However, if he were to pitch in relief, rather than start and throw "80 pitches on pitch day", then I think that would be a different story. 

11 months ago  ::  Nov 11, 2017 - 12:39AM #36
JonahFalcon
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Nov 10, 2017 -- 12:19PM, ArtVandelay wrote:


would you fight for ham?  discuss....




Beat me to it. I've always puzzled over "Nippon Ham Fighters". I imagine two pork roasts in biplanes in a dogfight.

11 months ago  ::  Nov 11, 2017 - 8:25AM #37
ArtVandelay
Posts: 31,096

Nov 11, 2017 -- 12:39AM, JonahFalcon wrote:


Nov 10, 2017 -- 12:19PM, ArtVandelay wrote:


would you fight for ham?  discuss....




Beat me to it. I've always puzzled over "Nippon Ham Fighters". I imagine two pork roasts in biplanes in a dogfight.




or two fat ladies at Costco swinging their purses at each other over the last Easter ham...

11 months ago  ::  Nov 11, 2017 - 9:58AM #38
yank0428
Posts: 15,244

Nov 10, 2017 -- 7:45PM, NYC_Mike7 wrote:


Nov 10, 2017 -- 7:31PM, nystripes2 wrote:


Nov 10, 2017 -- 7:17PM, NYC_Mike7 wrote:


Nov 10, 2017 -- 7:10PM, nystripes2 wrote:


its Yankees or Dodgers, forget the Rangers, they can only offer money.




lol how did you base that conclusion? According to him and the rangers, they have a lot to offer. He almost signed with the Rangers when he was 18 due to the fact they were willing to let him do both. He's losing a ton of money to sign this year, but if he signs with the dodgers he would practically make nothing in his contract. Which it would definitely not happen since dodgers only have 300k. 




"when he was 18"... That doesn't mean anything now that he's 24. They finished 6 games under .500 and their farm system is not very good either, what kind of future would you have?. He wants to win that has been said pretty much everywhere, no team in baseball that has been tied to him offers him that more than the Yankees and Dodgers, and they can offer him a whole lot more than the Rangers can in terms of winning, core to build with, japanese markets, endorsements, etc. I'll eat my hat if he's a Ranger.




He's 23. Go google his interview, he doesn't care about money or "winning team", his first take is letting him hit and pitch. He wont even talk to a team if they are not interested in that. No offense, but your logic is strictly opinion, no facts. Thats why he has always been intrigue with the rangers. All said and done, I want the Yankees to get him.


www.cbsnews.com/news/shohei-ohtani-babe-...




I read the article. I missed where he said anything about the Rangers but he will go to a team that lets him hit and pitch. Hopefully the Yanks don't mess this up.

11 months ago  ::  Nov 11, 2017 - 9:58AM #39
yank0428
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Nov 11, 2017 -- 8:25AM, ArtVandelay wrote:


Nov 11, 2017 -- 12:39AM, JonahFalcon wrote:


Nov 10, 2017 -- 12:19PM, ArtVandelay wrote:


would you fight for ham?  discuss....




Beat me to it. I've always puzzled over "Nippon Ham Fighters". I imagine two pork roasts in biplanes in a dogfight.




or two fat ladies at Costco swinging their purses at each other over the last Easter ham...




Saw that yesterday. Scary.

11 months ago  ::  Nov 11, 2017 - 10:10AM #40
nystripes2
Posts: 6,287
He's not going to sign with just any team who offers him both the chance to pitch and hit. Teams WILL talk to him about that but even HE said today he will discuss that with MLB teams and it won't be a deal breaker. He's as competitive as Tanaka he will want to win
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