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2 years ago  ::  Nov 11, 2017 - 10:18AM #41
yank0428
Posts: 17,179

Nov 11, 2017 -- 10:10AM, nystripes2 wrote:

He's not going to sign with just any team who offers him both the chance to pitch and hit. Teams WILL talk to him about that but even HE said today he will discuss that with MLB teams and it won't be a deal breaker. He's as competitive as Tanaka he will want to win



I don't see why a team wouldn't offer him that if they have the opening. He has talent as both a hitter and a pitcher. He's an athlete who has been doing both. Just because it hasn't been done since Ruth? I'd let him do it untill he proves he not excelling at one or the other. Whats the big deal about him DHing on some days he's not pitching? I could see teams not wanting him to play the field or hit on the days he's pitching. It hasn't been done since Ruth because nobody could do both at a high level. Maybe he can.

2 years ago  ::  Nov 11, 2017 - 10:38AM #42
Lulu
Posts: 3,341
If he wants to hit, delete the chances of all the NL teams , no matter how much money they offer him.
2 years ago  ::  Nov 11, 2017 - 10:49AM #43
RobS44
Posts: 5,608

Nov 11, 2017 -- 10:38AM, Lulu wrote:

If he wants to hit, delete the chances of all the NL teams , no matter how much money they offer him.



Not necessarily, Lu, he would bat on days he pitches, and I don't see it as out of the question some NL team would let him play the field on other days.


Of course, the Yanks remember how Mo got hurt just shagging flies so if he is as good a pitcher as they seem to say he is, I doubt they would let him play the OF.  But DH?  Yeah, I could see that.


I wonder how the folks on these boards who defend the DH because running the bases is so dangerous for pitchers (see: Wang, Chien Ming) feel about letting him hit if that is what it tkes to sing him.

2 years ago  ::  Nov 11, 2017 - 11:00AM #44
yank0428
Posts: 17,179

Nov 11, 2017 -- 10:49AM, RobS44 wrote:


Nov 11, 2017 -- 10:38AM, Lulu wrote:

If he wants to hit, delete the chances of all the NL teams , no matter how much money they offer him.



Not necessarily, Lu, he would bat on days he pitches, and I don't see it as out of the question some NL team would let him play the field on other days.


Of course, the Yanks remember how Mo got hurt just shagging flies so if he is as good a pitcher as they seem to say he is, I doubt they would let him play the OF.  But DH?  Yeah, I could see that.


I wonder how the folks on these boards who defend the DH because running the bases is so dangerous for pitchers (see: Wang, Chien Ming) feel about letting him hit if that is what it tkes to sing him.




True Rob but he's done it before. They hadn't. He's ball player not just a pitcher.Wang didn't hit or run the bases. If the Yanks sign I wouldn't think he plays the field.  DH some days and pitch.

2 years ago  ::  Nov 11, 2017 - 12:29PM #45
Max
Posts: 42,830

Nov 11, 2017 -- 9:58AM, yank0428 wrote:


Nov 10, 2017 -- 7:45PM, NYC_Mike7 wrote:


Nov 10, 2017 -- 7:31PM, nystripes2 wrote:


Nov 10, 2017 -- 7:17PM, NYC_Mike7 wrote:


Nov 10, 2017 -- 7:10PM, nystripes2 wrote:


its Yankees or Dodgers, forget the Rangers, they can only offer money.




lol how did you base that conclusion? According to him and the rangers, they have a lot to offer. He almost signed with the Rangers when he was 18 due to the fact they were willing to let him do both. He's losing a ton of money to sign this year, but if he signs with the dodgers he would practically make nothing in his contract. Which it would definitely not happen since dodgers only have 300k. 




"when he was 18"... That doesn't mean anything now that he's 24. They finished 6 games under .500 and their farm system is not very good either, what kind of future would you have?. He wants to win that has been said pretty much everywhere, no team in baseball that has been tied to him offers him that more than the Yankees and Dodgers, and they can offer him a whole lot more than the Rangers can in terms of winning, core to build with, japanese markets, endorsements, etc. I'll eat my hat if he's a Ranger.




He's 23. Go google his interview, he doesn't care about money or "winning team", his first take is letting him hit and pitch. He wont even talk to a team if they are not interested in that. No offense, but your logic is strictly opinion, no facts. Thats why he has always been intrigue with the rangers. All said and done, I want the Yankees to get him.


www.cbsnews.com/news/shohei-ohtani-babe-...




I read the article. I missed where he said anything about the Rangers but he will go to a team that lets him hit and pitch. Hopefully the Yanks don't mess this up.




It would be nice if the Yankees sign Otani at the GM meeting that start on Monday. 



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2 years ago  ::  Nov 11, 2017 - 1:19PM #46
yank0428
Posts: 17,179

Nov 11, 2017 -- 12:29PM, Max wrote:


Nov 11, 2017 -- 9:58AM, yank0428 wrote:


Nov 10, 2017 -- 7:45PM, NYC_Mike7 wrote:


Nov 10, 2017 -- 7:31PM, nystripes2 wrote:


Nov 10, 2017 -- 7:17PM, NYC_Mike7 wrote:


Nov 10, 2017 -- 7:10PM, nystripes2 wrote:


its Yankees or Dodgers, forget the Rangers, they can only offer money.




lol how did you base that conclusion? According to him and the rangers, they have a lot to offer. He almost signed with the Rangers when he was 18 due to the fact they were willing to let him do both. He's losing a ton of money to sign this year, but if he signs with the dodgers he would practically make nothing in his contract. Which it would definitely not happen since dodgers only have 300k. 




"when he was 18"... That doesn't mean anything now that he's 24. They finished 6 games under .500 and their farm system is not very good either, what kind of future would you have?. He wants to win that has been said pretty much everywhere, no team in baseball that has been tied to him offers him that more than the Yankees and Dodgers, and they can offer him a whole lot more than the Rangers can in terms of winning, core to build with, japanese markets, endorsements, etc. I'll eat my hat if he's a Ranger.




He's 23. Go google his interview, he doesn't care about money or "winning team", his first take is letting him hit and pitch. He wont even talk to a team if they are not interested in that. No offense, but your logic is strictly opinion, no facts. Thats why he has always been intrigue with the rangers. All said and done, I want the Yankees to get him.


www.cbsnews.com/news/shohei-ohtani-babe-...




I read the article. I missed where he said anything about the Rangers but he will go to a team that lets him hit and pitch. Hopefully the Yanks don't mess this up.




It would be nice if the Yankees sign Otani at the GM meeting that start on Monday. 






I hoping. I hate the waiting for things to get done if the off season. I think this kid will just add to the excitement. No brainer. Hope it works out.


 

2 years ago  ::  Nov 11, 2017 - 1:39PM #47
louisiana_lightning
Posts: 16,138

Nov 11, 2017 -- 10:18AM, yank0428 wrote:


Nov 11, 2017 -- 10:10AM, nystripes2 wrote:

He's not going to sign with just any team who offers him both the chance to pitch and hit. Teams WILL talk to him about that but even HE said today he will discuss that with MLB teams and it won't be a deal breaker. He's as competitive as Tanaka he will want to win



I don't see why a team wouldn't offer him that if they have the opening. He has talent as both a hitter and a pitcher. He's an athlete who has been doing both. Just because it hasn't been done since Ruth? I'd let him do it untill he proves he not excelling at one or the other. Whats the big deal about him DHing on some days he's not pitching? I could see teams not wanting him to play the field or hit on the days he's pitching. It hasn't been done since Ruth because nobody could do both at a high level. Maybe he can.




That's the thing.  The MLB is filled with players that could do both.  There are pitchers that would have likely made the majors as position players and vice versa.  Any team that does it is going to take a lot of heat when there are slumps and everyone slumps some time.  I just find it really hard to believe that he will simultaniously be our best option as a pitcher and a DH.  Then there is the matter of his health and giving him enough down time to keep him healthy and on the field.


If he does one thing particularly well and struggles at the other the calls will come in to the sports shows to end the experiment and he will get booed at home.  Will that carry over to other aspects of his game?  If he signs a contract demanding he be used a certain way I am afraid of the precedent that creates.  Remember Alfonso Soriano refusing to move to short for the Rangers, then the outfield for the Nationals?  Will we have teams being handcuffed with contracts dictating how a player is used?

2 years ago  ::  Nov 11, 2017 - 2:34PM #48
Max
Posts: 42,830

Nov 11, 2017 -- 1:19PM, yank0428 wrote:


Nov 11, 2017 -- 12:29PM, Max wrote:


Nov 11, 2017 -- 9:58AM, yank0428 wrote:


Nov 10, 2017 -- 7:45PM, NYC_Mike7 wrote:


Nov 10, 2017 -- 7:31PM, nystripes2 wrote:


Nov 10, 2017 -- 7:17PM, NYC_Mike7 wrote:


Nov 10, 2017 -- 7:10PM, nystripes2 wrote:


its Yankees or Dodgers, forget the Rangers, they can only offer money.




lol how did you base that conclusion? According to him and the rangers, they have a lot to offer. He almost signed with the Rangers when he was 18 due to the fact they were willing to let him do both. He's losing a ton of money to sign this year, but if he signs with the dodgers he would practically make nothing in his contract. Which it would definitely not happen since dodgers only have 300k. 




"when he was 18"... That doesn't mean anything now that he's 24. They finished 6 games under .500 and their farm system is not very good either, what kind of future would you have?. He wants to win that has been said pretty much everywhere, no team in baseball that has been tied to him offers him that more than the Yankees and Dodgers, and they can offer him a whole lot more than the Rangers can in terms of winning, core to build with, japanese markets, endorsements, etc. I'll eat my hat if he's a Ranger.




He's 23. Go google his interview, he doesn't care about money or "winning team", his first take is letting him hit and pitch. He wont even talk to a team if they are not interested in that. No offense, but your logic is strictly opinion, no facts. Thats why he has always been intrigue with the rangers. All said and done, I want the Yankees to get him.


www.cbsnews.com/news/shohei-ohtani-babe-...




I read the article. I missed where he said anything about the Rangers but he will go to a team that lets him hit and pitch. Hopefully the Yanks don't mess this up.




It would be nice if the Yankees sign Otani at the GM meeting that start on Monday. 






I hoping. I hate the waiting for things to get done if the off season. I think this kid will just add to the excitement. No brainer. Hope it works out.


 




I agree. If they sign Otani they are pretty much set except for 3B, and trying to find teams to take Headley's, Els' contracts. 

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2 years ago  ::  Nov 11, 2017 - 2:45PM #49
Joeybagadonutz
Posts: 10,102
I don’t mind Headley hanging around as a vet bench player. If they can trade him that would be ideal though. They better be sure Torres is ready though if they go that route. The only other option is Andujar who is still a butcher at 3B.
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2 years ago  ::  Nov 11, 2017 - 3:27PM #50
yank0428
Posts: 17,179

Nov 11, 2017 -- 1:39PM, louisiana_lightning wrote:


Nov 11, 2017 -- 10:18AM, yank0428 wrote:


Nov 11, 2017 -- 10:10AM, nystripes2 wrote:

He's not going to sign with just any team who offers him both the chance to pitch and hit. Teams WILL talk to him about that but even HE said today he will discuss that with MLB teams and it won't be a deal breaker. He's as competitive as Tanaka he will want to win



I don't see why a team wouldn't offer him that if they have the opening. He has talent as both a hitter and a pitcher. He's an athlete who has been doing both. Just because it hasn't been done since Ruth? I'd let him do it untill he proves he not excelling at one or the other. Whats the big deal about him DHing on some days he's not pitching? I could see teams not wanting him to play the field or hit on the days he's pitching. It hasn't been done since Ruth because nobody could do both at a high level. Maybe he can.




That's the thing.  The MLB is filled with players that could do both.  There are pitchers that would have likely made the majors as position players and vice versa.  Any team that does it is going to take a lot of heat when there are slumps and everyone slumps some time.  I just find it really hard to believe that he will simultaniously be our best option as a pitcher and a DH.  Then there is the matter of his health and giving him enough down time to keep him healthy and on the field.


If he does one thing particularly well and struggles at the other the calls will come in to the sports shows to end the experiment and he will get booed at home.  Will that carry over to other aspects of his game?  If he signs a contract demanding he be used a certain way I am afraid of the precedent that creates.  Remember Alfonso Soriano refusing to move to short for the Rangers, then the outfield for the Nationals?  Will we have teams being handcuffed with contracts dictating how a player is used?




LL I'm not sure about filled with players who can do both. We know there are players with good arms but does that mean they can pitch? Baumgardner can hit for a pitcher but he's a lumbering guy. I think this kid is another level. I know it's something we have never seen but I think it can be done and hope he does it for the Yanks

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