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2 weeks ago  ::  Nov 10, 2017 - 4:25PM #11
moonmaster
Posts: 46

Nov 10, 2017 -- 4:15PM, brennele wrote:


People who have an "Oh well, we lost, better luck next year" need to become NY Mets fans.  There was a time when it was just understood that the NY Yankees would be playing in the world series and if they did not, it was a remarkable event.  Something changed drastically - likely it was the luxury tax thing - but people now are grateful for crumbs.  Not a good attitude.  When you expect to lose, you lose.  There is this saying which goes to the effect of "If you think you can or you think you can't - either way you are right."  Perhaps I am naive but is not the job of the manager to manage the team to win?  The only excuse he would have for (repeated!) failures is if the owners micromanage him and don't let him do his job.  Perhaps that is so in which case he then gets a pass.  I don't know enough about baseball to comment as to whether Girardi was micromanaged or whether he is given free reign to win. 


Also, there has been a whole lot of talk about players past their prime who held long contracts and were dead wood for the team.  People accepted that scenario as though it was just a given i.e. an unavoidable state of affairs.  Well who gave the players those contracts, in the first place?  The contracts did not write themselves and fall from the sky.  Does management perhaps need a calculator and a textbook on physiology.  It was predictable scenario; it was a given that such would happen.  It is well known that every year a person becomes one year older.  A 25 year old with a 10 year contract will predictably become a 35 year old with a contract in force.




Didn't you say you were a newbie, and just became a Yankee fan a couple of months ago? 


2 weeks ago  ::  Nov 10, 2017 - 4:27PM #12
GottaGoToMo
Posts: 67,640

Nov 10, 2017 -- 4:25PM, moonmaster wrote:


Nov 10, 2017 -- 4:15PM, brennele wrote:


People who have an "Oh well, we lost, better luck next year" need to become NY Mets fans.  There was a time when it was just understood that the NY Yankees would be playing in the world series and if they did not, it was a remarkable event.  Something changed drastically - likely it was the luxury tax thing - but people now are grateful for crumbs.  Not a good attitude.  When you expect to lose, you lose.  There is this saying which goes to the effect of "If you think you can or you think you can't - either way you are right."  Perhaps I am naive but is not the job of the manager to manage the team to win?  The only excuse he would have for (repeated!) failures is if the owners micromanage him and don't let him do his job.  Perhaps that is so in which case he then gets a pass.  I don't know enough about baseball to comment as to whether Girardi was micromanaged or whether he is given free reign to win. 


Also, there has been a whole lot of talk about players past their prime who held long contracts and were dead wood for the team.  People accepted that scenario as though it was just a given i.e. an unavoidable state of affairs.  Well who gave the players those contracts, in the first place?  The contracts did not write themselves and fall from the sky.  Does management perhaps need a calculator and a textbook on physiology.  It was predictable scenario; it was a given that such would happen.  It is well known that every year a person becomes one year older.  A 25 year old with a 10 year contract will predictably become a 35 year old with a contract in force.




Didn't you say you were a newbie, and just became a Yankee fan a couple of months ago? 





She's an arrogant, condescending xyz ... that's what she is.

2 weeks ago  ::  Nov 10, 2017 - 4:34PM #13
newinn
Posts: 28,480

Nov 10, 2017 -- 4:27PM, GottaGoToMo wrote:


Nov 10, 2017 -- 4:25PM, moonmaster wrote:


Nov 10, 2017 -- 4:15PM, brennele wrote:


People who have an "Oh well, we lost, better luck next year" need to become NY Mets fans.  There was a time when it was just understood that the NY Yankees would be playing in the world series and if they did not, it was a remarkable event.  Something changed drastically - likely it was the luxury tax thing - but people now are grateful for crumbs.  Not a good attitude.  When you expect to lose, you lose.  There is this saying which goes to the effect of "If you think you can or you think you can't - either way you are right."  Perhaps I am naive but is not the job of the manager to manage the team to win?  The only excuse he would have for (repeated!) failures is if the owners micromanage him and don't let him do his job.  Perhaps that is so in which case he then gets a pass.  I don't know enough about baseball to comment as to whether Girardi was micromanaged or whether he is given free reign to win. 


Also, there has been a whole lot of talk about players past their prime who held long contracts and were dead wood for the team.  People accepted that scenario as though it was just a given i.e. an unavoidable state of affairs.  Well who gave the players those contracts, in the first place?  The contracts did not write themselves and fall from the sky.  Does management perhaps need a calculator and a textbook on physiology.  It was predictable scenario; it was a given that such would happen.  It is well known that every year a person becomes one year older.  A 25 year old with a 10 year contract will predictably become a 35 year old with a contract in force.




Didn't you say you were a newbie, and just became a Yankee fan a couple of months ago? 





She's an arrogant, condescending, SOB ... that's what she is.




Facinating. She's been following baseball for two months and already can tell long time Yankee fans that didn't want Girardi fired to go root for the Mets. I swear, you can't make this stuff up

2 weeks ago  ::  Nov 10, 2017 - 4:35PM #14
GottaGoToMo
Posts: 67,640

Nov 10, 2017 -- 4:34PM, newinn wrote:


Nov 10, 2017 -- 4:27PM, GottaGoToMo wrote:


Nov 10, 2017 -- 4:25PM, moonmaster wrote:


Nov 10, 2017 -- 4:15PM, brennele wrote:


People who have an "Oh well, we lost, better luck next year" need to become NY Mets fans.  There was a time when it was just understood that the NY Yankees would be playing in the world series and if they did not, it was a remarkable event.  Something changed drastically - likely it was the luxury tax thing - but people now are grateful for crumbs.  Not a good attitude.  When you expect to lose, you lose.  There is this saying which goes to the effect of "If you think you can or you think you can't - either way you are right."  Perhaps I am naive but is not the job of the manager to manage the team to win?  The only excuse he would have for (repeated!) failures is if the owners micromanage him and don't let him do his job.  Perhaps that is so in which case he then gets a pass.  I don't know enough about baseball to comment as to whether Girardi was micromanaged or whether he is given free reign to win. 


Also, there has been a whole lot of talk about players past their prime who held long contracts and were dead wood for the team.  People accepted that scenario as though it was just a given i.e. an unavoidable state of affairs.  Well who gave the players those contracts, in the first place?  The contracts did not write themselves and fall from the sky.  Does management perhaps need a calculator and a textbook on physiology.  It was predictable scenario; it was a given that such would happen.  It is well known that every year a person becomes one year older.  A 25 year old with a 10 year contract will predictably become a 35 year old with a contract in force.




Didn't you say you were a newbie, and just became a Yankee fan a couple of months ago? 





She's an arrogant, condescending, SOB ... that's what she is.




Facinating. She's been following baseball for two months and already can tell long time Yankee fans that didn't want Girardi fired to go root for the Mets. I swear, you can't make this stuff up




She has her nerve I'll tell you that ... if she wasn't already on my sh!t list, she is now!

2 weeks ago  ::  Nov 10, 2017 - 4:37PM #15
MAX
Posts: 34,296

Nov 10, 2017 -- 1:14PM, yank0428 wrote:


Nov 10, 2017 -- 1:08PM, Cocopugg wrote:

Of course it won't happen...so we the fans, will just have to live with the fallout...and yes, I was one of the ones asking for Girardi to be fired...but that was only under the assumption that Yankees management already had a proven manager with MLB managing experience under his belt, ready to take the wheel, which obvious was not the case. 2018 will be a VERY INTERESTING year for the Yankees indeed!



I think they have their reasons for letting him go. People panicked when Buck left. Lets see who they get.




In my opinion there's no upgrade from Girardi that the Yankees can hire, but I would like to see them hire someone with a Yankee background. I think they should hire Cone, but I wouldn't mind if they hired Boone. 

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2 weeks ago  ::  Nov 10, 2017 - 4:39PM #16
luvdayanks
Posts: 22,050

Nov 10, 2017 -- 4:35PM, GottaGoToMo wrote:


Nov 10, 2017 -- 4:34PM, newinn wrote:


Nov 10, 2017 -- 4:27PM, GottaGoToMo wrote:


Nov 10, 2017 -- 4:25PM, moonmaster wrote:


Nov 10, 2017 -- 4:15PM, brennele wrote:


People who have an "Oh well, we lost, better luck next year" need to become NY Mets fans.  There was a time when it was just understood that the NY Yankees would be playing in the world series and if they did not, it was a remarkable event.  Something changed drastically - likely it was the luxury tax thing - but people now are grateful for crumbs.  Not a good attitude.  When you expect to lose, you lose.  There is this saying which goes to the effect of "If you think you can or you think you can't - either way you are right."  Perhaps I am naive but is not the job of the manager to manage the team to win?  The only excuse he would have for (repeated!) failures is if the owners micromanage him and don't let him do his job.  Perhaps that is so in which case he then gets a pass.  I don't know enough about baseball to comment as to whether Girardi was micromanaged or whether he is given free reign to win. 


Also, there has been a whole lot of talk about players past their prime who held long contracts and were dead wood for the team.  People accepted that scenario as though it was just a given i.e. an unavoidable state of affairs.  Well who gave the players those contracts, in the first place?  The contracts did not write themselves and fall from the sky.  Does management perhaps need a calculator and a textbook on physiology.  It was predictable scenario; it was a given that such would happen.  It is well known that every year a person becomes one year older.  A 25 year old with a 10 year contract will predictably become a 35 year old with a contract in force.




Didn't you say you were a newbie, and just became a Yankee fan a couple of months ago? 





She's an arrogant, condescending, SOB ... that's what she is.




Facinating. She's been following baseball for two months and already can tell long time Yankee fans that didn't want Girardi fired to go root for the Mets. I swear, you can't make this stuff up




She has her nerve I'll tell you that ... if she wasn't already on my sh!t list, she is now!




I think she's  using a different tactic of being a troll. She begs for information as a "newbie",  then seems to know it all.

2 weeks ago  ::  Nov 10, 2017 - 4:40PM #17
GottaGoToMo
Posts: 67,640

Nov 10, 2017 -- 4:39PM, luvdayanks wrote:


Nov 10, 2017 -- 4:35PM, GottaGoToMo wrote:


Nov 10, 2017 -- 4:34PM, newinn wrote:


Nov 10, 2017 -- 4:27PM, GottaGoToMo wrote:


Nov 10, 2017 -- 4:25PM, moonmaster wrote:


Nov 10, 2017 -- 4:15PM, brennele wrote:


People who have an "Oh well, we lost, better luck next year" need to become NY Mets fans.  There was a time when it was just understood that the NY Yankees would be playing in the world series and if they did not, it was a remarkable event.  Something changed drastically - likely it was the luxury tax thing - but people now are grateful for crumbs.  Not a good attitude.  When you expect to lose, you lose.  There is this saying which goes to the effect of "If you think you can or you think you can't - either way you are right."  Perhaps I am naive but is not the job of the manager to manage the team to win?  The only excuse he would have for (repeated!) failures is if the owners micromanage him and don't let him do his job.  Perhaps that is so in which case he then gets a pass.  I don't know enough about baseball to comment as to whether Girardi was micromanaged or whether he is given free reign to win. 


Also, there has been a whole lot of talk about players past their prime who held long contracts and were dead wood for the team.  People accepted that scenario as though it was just a given i.e. an unavoidable state of affairs.  Well who gave the players those contracts, in the first place?  The contracts did not write themselves and fall from the sky.  Does management perhaps need a calculator and a textbook on physiology.  It was predictable scenario; it was a given that such would happen.  It is well known that every year a person becomes one year older.  A 25 year old with a 10 year contract will predictably become a 35 year old with a contract in force.




Didn't you say you were a newbie, and just became a Yankee fan a couple of months ago? 





She's an arrogant, condescending, SOB ... that's what she is.




Facinating. She's been following baseball for two months and already can tell long time Yankee fans that didn't want Girardi fired to go root for the Mets. I swear, you can't make this stuff up




She has her nerve I'll tell you that ... if she wasn't already on my sh!t list, she is now!




I think she's  using a different tactic of being a troll. She begs for information as a "newbie",  then seems to know it all.




Well she can take it and shove it where the sun doesn't shine.

2 weeks ago  ::  Nov 10, 2017 - 4:45PM #18
newinn
Posts: 28,480

Nov 10, 2017 -- 4:39PM, luvdayanks wrote:


Nov 10, 2017 -- 4:35PM, GottaGoToMo wrote:


Nov 10, 2017 -- 4:34PM, newinn wrote:


Nov 10, 2017 -- 4:27PM, GottaGoToMo wrote:


Nov 10, 2017 -- 4:25PM, moonmaster wrote:


Nov 10, 2017 -- 4:15PM, brennele wrote:


People who have an "Oh well, we lost, better luck next year" need to become NY Mets fans.  There was a time when it was just understood that the NY Yankees would be playing in the world series and if they did not, it was a remarkable event.  Something changed drastically - likely it was the luxury tax thing - but people now are grateful for crumbs.  Not a good attitude.  When you expect to lose, you lose.  There is this saying which goes to the effect of "If you think you can or you think you can't - either way you are right."  Perhaps I am naive but is not the job of the manager to manage the team to win?  The only excuse he would have for (repeated!) failures is if the owners micromanage him and don't let him do his job.  Perhaps that is so in which case he then gets a pass.  I don't know enough about baseball to comment as to whether Girardi was micromanaged or whether he is given free reign to win. 


Also, there has been a whole lot of talk about players past their prime who held long contracts and were dead wood for the team.  People accepted that scenario as though it was just a given i.e. an unavoidable state of affairs.  Well who gave the players those contracts, in the first place?  The contracts did not write themselves and fall from the sky.  Does management perhaps need a calculator and a textbook on physiology.  It was predictable scenario; it was a given that such would happen.  It is well known that every year a person becomes one year older.  A 25 year old with a 10 year contract will predictably become a 35 year old with a contract in force.




Didn't you say you were a newbie, and just became a Yankee fan a couple of months ago? 





She's an arrogant, condescending, SOB ... that's what she is.




Facinating. She's been following baseball for two months and already can tell long time Yankee fans that didn't want Girardi fired to go root for the Mets. I swear, you can't make this stuff up




She has her nerve I'll tell you that ... if she wasn't already on my sh!t list, she is now!




I think she's  using a different tactic of being a troll. She begs for information as a "newbie",  then seems to know it all.




whatever it is, it really is amazing

2 weeks ago  ::  Nov 10, 2017 - 4:46PM #19
GottaGoToMo
Posts: 67,640

Nov 10, 2017 -- 4:45PM, newinn wrote:


Nov 10, 2017 -- 4:39PM, luvdayanks wrote:


Nov 10, 2017 -- 4:35PM, GottaGoToMo wrote:


Nov 10, 2017 -- 4:34PM, newinn wrote:


Nov 10, 2017 -- 4:27PM, GottaGoToMo wrote:


Nov 10, 2017 -- 4:25PM, moonmaster wrote:


Nov 10, 2017 -- 4:15PM, brennele wrote:


People who have an "Oh well, we lost, better luck next year" need to become NY Mets fans.  There was a time when it was just understood that the NY Yankees would be playing in the world series and if they did not, it was a remarkable event.  Something changed drastically - likely it was the luxury tax thing - but people now are grateful for crumbs.  Not a good attitude.  When you expect to lose, you lose.  There is this saying which goes to the effect of "If you think you can or you think you can't - either way you are right."  Perhaps I am naive but is not the job of the manager to manage the team to win?  The only excuse he would have for (repeated!) failures is if the owners micromanage him and don't let him do his job.  Perhaps that is so in which case he then gets a pass.  I don't know enough about baseball to comment as to whether Girardi was micromanaged or whether he is given free reign to win. 


Also, there has been a whole lot of talk about players past their prime who held long contracts and were dead wood for the team.  People accepted that scenario as though it was just a given i.e. an unavoidable state of affairs.  Well who gave the players those contracts, in the first place?  The contracts did not write themselves and fall from the sky.  Does management perhaps need a calculator and a textbook on physiology.  It was predictable scenario; it was a given that such would happen.  It is well known that every year a person becomes one year older.  A 25 year old with a 10 year contract will predictably become a 35 year old with a contract in force.




Didn't you say you were a newbie, and just became a Yankee fan a couple of months ago? 





She's an arrogant, condescending, SOB ... that's what she is.




Facinating. She's been following baseball for two months and already can tell long time Yankee fans that didn't want Girardi fired to go root for the Mets. I swear, you can't make this stuff up




She has her nerve I'll tell you that ... if she wasn't already on my sh!t list, she is now!




I think she's  using a different tactic of being a troll. She begs for information as a "newbie",  then seems to know it all.




whatever it is, it really is amazing




the word amazing should never be used to describe her ... a nutjob ... that's a good word to describe her.

2 weeks ago  ::  Nov 10, 2017 - 4:47PM #20
Cocopugg
Posts: 2,650

Nov 10, 2017 -- 4:05PM, GottaGoToMo wrote:


Getting to within one game of the World Series is not underperforming.




Mo, I agree with you...all kidding aside, I ragged on Girardi whenever I felt he blew a game, but after the post-season ended, as close as the Yankees got with Girardi as their skipper, I have to say that firing him at this point, is about the dumbest Yankee management decision I can ever remember anyone making. Even George would never fire a manager who got a young team as close to the WS as Girardi got them in 2017. They were primed to take it all the way next season. Now it will feel like they will have to start all over again for someone new. Unless we get someone who performs a first yr miracle, the way Joe Torre did in 1996, which is highly unlikely!

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