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Cashman needs to fall on his knees, and beg Girardi to come back, admitting he made a big mistake!
1 week ago  ::  Nov 10, 2017 - 1:08PM #1
Cocopugg
Posts: 2,640
Of course it won't happen...so we the fans, will just have to live with the fallout...and yes, I was one of the ones asking for Girardi to be fired...but that was only under the assumption that Yankees management already had a proven manager with MLB managing experience under his belt, ready to take the wheel, which obvious was not the case. 2018 will be a VERY INTERESTING year for the Yankees indeed!
1 week ago  ::  Nov 10, 2017 - 1:14PM #2
yank0428
Posts: 13,291

Nov 10, 2017 -- 1:08PM, Cocopugg wrote:

Of course it won't happen...so we the fans, will just have to live with the fallout...and yes, I was one of the ones asking for Girardi to be fired...but that was only under the assumption that Yankees management already had a proven manager with MLB managing experience under his belt, ready to take the wheel, which obvious was not the case. 2018 will be a VERY INTERESTING year for the Yankees indeed!



I think they have their reasons for letting him go. People panicked when Buck left. Lets see who they get.

1 week ago  ::  Nov 10, 2017 - 1:15PM #3
dixieyank
Posts: 4,456

Are you trying to compete with Jinah and Starwarskid for drama posts?


1 week ago  ::  Nov 10, 2017 - 2:45PM #4
Cocopugg
Posts: 2,640

Nov 10, 2017 -- 1:15PM, dixieyank wrote:


Are you trying to compete with Jinah and Starwarskid for drama posts?





No, or the headline for this thread would've read: "Yankees hire Raymond as their new manager!"

1 week ago  ::  Nov 10, 2017 - 3:00PM #5
Raymond757
Posts: 8,261

Nov 10, 2017 -- 2:45PM, Cocopugg wrote:


Nov 10, 2017 -- 1:15PM, dixieyank wrote:


Are you trying to compete with Jinah and Starwarskid for drama posts?





No, or the headline for this thread would've read: "Yankees hire Raymond as their new manager!"




lol.

1 week ago  ::  Nov 10, 2017 - 3:04PM #6
NYC_Mike7
Posts: 100

Yanks interviewing Eric Wedge today. I can see it now, if yanks don't win next year, some people are going to blame Cashman for firing Girardi. First year for the new manager is going to be difficult with massive criticism.

1 week ago  ::  Nov 10, 2017 - 3:07PM #7
brennele
Posts: 350

Here is the part I don't get.  Everyone is amazed and thankful that the Yankees did so well this year.  Everyone was expecting them to do far less than reach the pennant stage.  Well, what the heck.  Why is everyone accepting such a dismal state of affairs like it was a given?  Whose fault is it/was it in the first place that the Yankees were expected to do so poorly.  Is that not the function of the manager?  When a team is "expected" to poorly and then exceeds those (dire) expectations, why is no one questioning why the standard was so low, in the first place?  I just don't get this acceptance of poor results.  Is this a millenial thing? 


When a team is underperforming, someone needs to be held accountable.  If not the manager, then who?  How did it come about that the expectations and recent past performance were so bad?  Am I the only one here who thinks that 4 mil is a lot of money and for that kind of money you need to produce?  What is with everyone here?  Are you all here so well off that you think 4 million is chump change?  It is a lot of money and he has not been delivering the goods.  Everyone seems to be just accepting the past poor performance and hoping for a better future. What kind of BS is this sort of thinking.   Failure is not an option and when it occurs year after year after year, somebody needs to be held accountable and then somebody needs to go. 

1 week ago  ::  Nov 10, 2017 - 3:21PM #8
kyloren
Posts: 2,483

Nov 10, 2017 -- 1:08PM, Cocopugg wrote:

Of course it won't happen...so we the fans, will just have to live with the fallout...and yes, I was one of the ones asking for Girardi to be fired...but that was only under the assumption that Yankees management already had a proven manager with MLB managing experience under his belt, ready to take the wheel, which obvious was not the case. 2018 will be a VERY INTERESTING year for the Yankees indeed!



I am glad you start out your post by admiting It wont happen!Wink


My Top Three out of names we have heard, Raul Ibanez, John Flaherty, and, Aaron Boone For Pitching Coach I like David Cone! 

1 week ago  ::  Nov 10, 2017 - 4:05PM #9
GottaGoToMo
Posts: 67,628

Getting to within one game of the World Series is not underperforming.

1 week ago  ::  Nov 10, 2017 - 4:15PM #10
brennele
Posts: 350

People who have an "Oh well, we lost, better luck next year" need to become NY Mets fans.  There was a time when it was just understood that the NY Yankees would be playing in the world series and if they did not, it was a remarkable event.  Something changed drastically - likely it was the luxury tax thing - but people now are grateful for crumbs.  Not a good attitude.  When you expect to lose, you lose.  There is this saying which goes to the effect of "If you think you can or you think you can't - either way you are right."  Perhaps I am naive but is not the job of the manager to manage the team to win?  The only excuse he would have for (repeated!) failures is if the owners micromanage him and don't let him do his job.  Perhaps that is so in which case he then gets a pass.  I don't know enough about baseball to comment as to whether Girardi was micromanaged or whether he is given free reign to win. 


Also, there has been a whole lot of talk about players past their prime who held long contracts and were dead wood for the team.  People accepted that scenario as though it was just a given i.e. an unavoidable state of affairs.  Well who gave the players those contracts, in the first place?  The contracts did not write themselves and fall from the sky.  Does management perhaps need a calculator and a textbook on physiology.  It was predictable scenario; it was a given that such would happen.  It is well known that every year a person becomes one year older.  A 25 year old with a 10 year contract will predictably become a 35 year old with a contract in force.

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