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Altuve wins the MVP Award
2 years ago  ::  Nov 16, 2017 - 7:16PM #1
qwik3457
Posts: 11,817

I didn't see a thread so I thought I'd start one. 
He got 27 1st place votes, Judge got 2, and Jose Ramirez of the Indians got 1.

To me, Altuve deserved to win, and the only surprise is that the first place votes went so heavily to him


www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/mlb-awards-as...

Knowledge is Good -- Emil Faber
2 years ago  ::  Nov 16, 2017 - 7:27PM #2
kyloren
Posts: 3,520

Nov 16, 2017 -- 7:16PM, qwik3457 wrote:


I didn't see a thread so I thought I'd start one. 
He got 27 1st place votes, Judge got 2, and Jose Ramirez of the Indians got 1.

To me, Altuve deserved to win, and the only surprise is that the first place votes went so heavily to him


www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/mlb-awards-as...




Aaron Judge hit 52 HR's in his rookie year! that is unheard of 52 HR's in his rookie year, Judge deserved the Award. The Only reasons he did not win it they didnt want to give him 2 awards, Rookie Of The Year, and MVP. also Yankees Bias....

2 years ago  ::  Nov 16, 2017 - 7:29PM #3
Raymond757
Posts: 9,345
It was rigged!
2 years ago  ::  Nov 16, 2017 - 7:36PM #4
Patty
Posts: 1,677
I completely agree with you Qwik.  Alan Hahn said players should vote for these awards, not the media, and I agree with him. 

However, I do think Judge's slump didn't help him.
2 years ago  ::  Nov 16, 2017 - 7:38PM #5
nystripes2
Posts: 6,287

You couldn't convince me there's anyway in hell a blow out like that is a logical choice tho, should have been much much closer. That's the absurd part.


Also, even with Judge's slump, His numbers other than Batting average, hits and strikeouts, were better. lol


2 years ago  ::  Nov 16, 2017 - 7:41PM #6
Joeybagadonutz
Posts: 10,102

No problem with Altuve winning the award but it should have been a hell of a lot closer than that. Kind of a joke really. 

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2 years ago  ::  Nov 16, 2017 - 8:08PM #7
qwik3457
Posts: 11,817

Nov 16, 2017 -- 7:41PM, Joeybagadonutz wrote:


No problem with Altuve winning the award but it should have been a hell of a lot closer than that. Kind of a joke really. 




I thought it was going to be closer, too.


The surface numbers show them to have had about equally valuable seasons. Only when you dig deep does Altuve gain a significant edge, but you have to look at things like hitting in key situations, Win Probabilty Added, and home/road splits to really see that Altuve had the better season. To me, the bottom line is this: you can't disappear for nearly two months if you want to win the MVP Award, even if you are playing through what seems to have been a significant injury.

Knowledge is Good -- Emil Faber
2 years ago  ::  Nov 16, 2017 - 8:29PM #8
brennele
Posts: 449

I wsa happy for the Altuve win and also happy about Judge getting Rookie of the year.  They each deserved the awards they got.  It is rather apparent, to me at least, what happened to Judge.  He was reliably hitting home runs until the home run batting contest - which I believe he won.  After that he failed to hit home runs until near the end of the Yankee participation in the post season.


It is very apparent that with all of that vigorous swinging at balls - one right after another and with the kind of force Judge generates - that he strained a muscle or two during the competition.  It was not a huge disability and he could still play ball but he could not put his usual force into the swing. 


We have all experienced strained muscles to one degree or another and they take just about as much time to heal as the time between the competition and when Judge started to again hit home runs.  It was not such an unexplained or surprising phenomenon, as everyone was ever so commenting.  It was a no brainer call, in fact.   As a medical provider, I see this sort of thing all the time.  Muscle strains are not a particularly debilitating injuries but the people know it and feel it for a while.  Think about a time when you had bronchitis and coughed so often and so hard that your chest muscles got to  point where you had intense pain every time you coughed - then it resolved completely.  Mostly, however, you could just go about your day as usual and no one but you knew about the problem. 


For that reason, I am not so sure participating in the home run competition is such a great idea.  We could have used Judge's batting skills much more in the post season then for him to win  a home run competition - which really does not count for much, anyway.  Frankly, I am surprised the managers even let a valuable player such as Judge participate in that contest, in the first place.  It is literally begging for a muscle strain and that is exactly what (in my opinion) happened to him. 


Anyway, I am glad for Altuve and glad for Judge.  Altuve is such a modest man, always crediting his teammates and never looking for self-glory.  I am a big Altuve fan.

2 years ago  ::  Nov 16, 2017 - 8:42PM #9
Cocopugg
Posts: 6,396

Nov 16, 2017 -- 7:27PM, kyloren wrote:


Nov 16, 2017 -- 7:16PM, qwik3457 wrote:


I didn't see a thread so I thought I'd start one. 
He got 27 1st place votes, Judge got 2, and Jose Ramirez of the Indians got 1.

To me, Altuve deserved to win, and the only surprise is that the first place votes went so heavily to him


www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/mlb-awards-as...




Aaron Judge hit 52 HR's in his rookie year! that is unheard of 52 HR's in his rookie year, Judge deserved the Award. The Only reasons he did not win it they didnt want to give him 2 awards, Rookie Of The Year, and MVP. also Yankees Bias....




From ESPN:


"Over in the American League, it was a little surprising that Altuve crushed Aaron Judge in the final results, collecting 27 of the 30 first-place votes. I thought Altuve would win in a close vote. It seems that Judge's post-All-Star break slump factored heavily into the votes and that his 15-homer September wasn't enough to convince voters."



Full article: http://www.espn.com/blog/sweetspot/post/_/id/84689/winning-by-margins-large-and-small-altuve-and-stanton-are-both-worthy-mvps

2 years ago  ::  Nov 16, 2017 - 8:44PM #10
Cocopugg
Posts: 6,396

Nov 16, 2017 -- 7:27PM, kyloren wrote:


Nov 16, 2017 -- 7:16PM, qwik3457 wrote:


I didn't see a thread so I thought I'd start one. 
He got 27 1st place votes, Judge got 2, and Jose Ramirez of the Indians got 1.

To me, Altuve deserved to win, and the only surprise is that the first place votes went so heavily to him


www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/mlb-awards-as...




Aaron Judge hit 52 HR's in his rookie year! that is unheard of 52 HR's in his rookie year, Judge deserved the Award. The Only reasons he did not win it they didnt want to give him 2 awards, Rookie Of The Year, and MVP. also Yankees Bias....




Mark McGwire hit 49 HRs as a rookie, which was unheard of at the time (1987), and he didn't win the MVP for it.

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