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Aaron Boone has no experience tho...
1 week ago  ::  Dec 02, 2017 - 3:01PM #1
nystripes2
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Yankees had a certain manager fresh off ending his playing career during the 1964 season, Anyone remember his name and how far his team went?.

Boone won the job despite no coaching experience because his personality and ability to get along with everyone because his communication and his high use of analytics. The main 3 things Cashman was looking for.  He also knows what it's like to play in N.Y. and how to handle the N.Y. media.
1 week ago  ::  Dec 02, 2017 - 3:29PM #2
GottaGoToMo
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Playing in New York and managin in New York are two totally different things when it comes to the media.

1 week ago  ::  Dec 02, 2017 - 4:39PM #3
FW57Clipper51
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Dec 2, 2017 -- 3:01PM, nystripes2 wrote:

Yankees had a certain manager fresh off ending his playing career during the 1964 season, Anyone remember his name and how far his team went?. Boone won the job despite no coaching experience because his personality and ability to get along with everyone because his communication and his high use of analytics. The main 3 things Cashman was looking for. He also knows what it's like to play in N.Y. and how to handle the N.Y. media.




Yogi Berra was selected by Yankees Team Co-Owner Dan Topping to be the 1964 New York Yankees Manager. He was not the Yankees new GM Ralph Houk's personal choice. Berra had finished the 1963 season as a player/Coach. Despite winning 99 games and taking the team to the 7th game of 1964 World Series. Houk fired him replacing him with former St. Louis Cardinals Manager Johnny Keane. In the fall of 1985, George Steinbrenner named Lou Pinellia in 1986 with no experience to manage the team.


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1 week ago  ::  Dec 02, 2017 - 5:17PM #4
brennele
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Dec 2, 2017 -- 3:01PM, nystripes2 wrote:

Yankees had a certain manager fresh off ending his playing career during the 1964 season, Anyone remember his name and how far his team went?. Boone won the job despite no coaching experience because his personality and ability to get along with everyone because his communication and his high use of analytics. The main 3 things Cashman was looking for. He also knows what it's like to play in N.Y. and how to handle the N.Y. media.



These traits sound like good qualifications to me - esp the analytics.  They can hire an assistent with lots of managerial experience until he is up to speed on that count.  Analytics and strategy would seem to be very important.  Knowing how to handle the media is also important.

1 week ago  ::  Dec 02, 2017 - 7:25PM #5
hampfan
Posts: 2,918

Dec 2, 2017 -- 5:17PM, brennele wrote:


Dec 2, 2017 -- 3:01PM, nystripes2 wrote:

Yankees had a certain manager fresh off ending his playing career during the 1964 season, Anyone remember his name and how far his team went?. Boone won the job despite no coaching experience because his personality and ability to get along with everyone because his communication and his high use of analytics. The main 3 things Cashman was looking for. He also knows what it's like to play in N.Y. and how to handle the N.Y. media.



These traits sound like good qualifications to me - esp the analytics.  They can hire an assistent with lots of managerial experience until he is up to speed on that count.  Analytics and strategy would seem to be very important.  Knowing how to handle the media is also important.




Then why not just hire a "NYY" Computer as Manager in the dugout, which can communicate in computerese talk (youve heard the made-up robotic voicea) its findings to our no doubt computer-literate players? In the spirit of the season: Bah, Humbug to this ultra-modern version of religionist-like faith in "Analytics." When someone like Francona plays cards with his players off the field and asks them how they're doing at home and in the world at large, does his lack of staring at a computer read-out explain why he lost to--oh, wait a minute, a Joe Girardi who supposedly didn't believe in Analytics, despite his much-mocked "binder" mentality?

1 week ago  ::  Dec 02, 2017 - 9:17PM #6
brennele
Posts: 441

Hampfan,


Single incidents or single games tell nothing.  It is trends and repeat occurances which matter.  Cashman et al want the Yankees to succeed every bit as much as you do.  They would not take a matter like replacing Girardi lightly.  Also remember a good boss is not necessarily one who socializes with the workers, in this  case the players.  Sometimes, some measure of distance is a good thing. 

1 week ago  ::  Dec 03, 2017 - 12:36AM #7
Bats
Posts: 7,379

Dec 2, 2017 -- 3:01PM, nystripes2 wrote:

Yankees had a certain manager fresh off ending his playing career during the 1964 season, Anyone remember his name and how far his team went?. Boone won the job despite no coaching experience because his personality and ability to get along with everyone because his communication and his high use of analytics. The main 3 things Cashman was looking for. He also knows what it's like to play in N.Y. and how to handle the N.Y. media.



It's not just that. 


Think about this. Aaron Boone, just like Meulens, Beltran, Wedge, etc...... all went thru highly meticulous INTERVIEW PROCESS.  He clearly passed with flying colors. Not just that, but he also a conference call with the media and seemed quite impressive. Nobody in this message board interviewed Aaron Boone to pick his brain. How would he or she know that Boone is not fit for the job?


The Yankees are NOT PUTTING A DUMMY in the manager's chair.  It's not like they named the night manager of the analytics department to be skipper.



The Yankees put a sharp baseball mind who blew them away, during the INTERVIEW PROCESS. Furthermore, from what I read earlier today (or yesterday), Aaron Boone has a photographic memory. In other words, the guy has a buit-in baseball-reference.com website in his head.


Like I said, the Yankees are not putting a dummy in the manager's chair. He's an actual baseball guy, who played the game, analyzed it from the broadcast booth, and comes from a rich baseball pedigree. 


People also have to remember PETE ROSE.



This guy MANAGED & PLAYED.


So when people say that experience is necessary to manage the Yankees, just look back at Pete Rose, who went from to player AND manager....at the same time.


1 week ago  ::  Dec 03, 2017 - 6:00AM #8
newinn
Posts: 28,615

I leaned towards Muelens because he spent a lot of time with Botche but aside from Wedge,non of these guys have any experience so I don't understand how a bunch of people on a message board can have such strong opinions on who the Yankees hired. These opinions are pretty much based on nothing, there's no history, non of us really know much about any of the candidates and we didn't sit in on the interviews. All we can do is trust Cashman and root like hell for Boone to be successful

1 week ago  ::  Dec 03, 2017 - 7:42AM #9
tito
Posts: 646

Thanks Newinn - nicely said  - and is that Pete Rose phoning in a bet?

1 week ago  ::  Dec 03, 2017 - 8:08AM #10
NW
Posts: 12,470

This is the single dumbest decision Cashman has made.  

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