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7 months ago  ::  Mar 12, 2018 - 4:12PM #1
laurenf2
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Those long ago forged US allies are dated in the pass when UK came to our defense during 9/11, Trump has spoken clearly....his ally is Russia.

www.theatlantic.com/international/archiv...


Britain Accuses Russia of Poisoning—and Trump Stays Silent






A normal White House would have rushed to its ally’s defense by now.






Here’s what would normally happen after an outrage like the attempted murder of a Russian defector and his daughter with a nerve agent, in an attack that also poisoned a British police officer and exposed as many as 500 people to neurological risk.


The United States would instantly offer Britain any technical assistance it might require: forensic chemical analysis, other kinds of information collection.


Next, the U.S. president would reach out to the British prime minister with some visible demonstration of solidarity: typically, a phone call that would be photographed, with a read out of the call distributed to media. If the British thought it useful, that phone call would be backed up by a visit by some senior member of the administration: the vice president perhaps, or the secretary of state.



The official statement Prime Minister Theresa May offered in the House of Commons today, saying it was “highly likely” Russia was the perpetrator, would be immediately supported by a carefully coordinated statement by the U.S. government, as well as other important allies in an effort led by the United States.


The U.S. would lead the way to forge some kind of common nato statement, as well as—given the difficulties of Brexit—working to ensure that the European Union demonstrated solidarity too.





Should the British decide to impose sanctions, the United States would actively cooperate. If the British sanctions for example targeted individual Russians, the United States would likely target those same people.


Except for the very first measure—which happens automatically, and which only affirmative presidential action would prevent—none of those normal actions had occurred as of this writing, more than a week after the poisoning. The United Kingdom has been left to deal with this matter alone by a U.S. administration that will not respond even to a Russian WMD attack on nato soil.


It’s too early to say that the Trump administration will do nothing. Perhaps it may yet step up. Perhaps it may even calculate that joining the U.K. in sanctions upon Russians implicated in such an outrageous crime may quiet complaints about the Trump administration’s refusal to implement sanctions for Russian meddling in the 2016 election. Those questions remain open. For now, though, we are presented with the most astounding yet Trump default from traditional U.S. alliances and leadership. At Monday’s White House press conference, Sarah Huckabee Sanders rebuffed repeated questions whether the U.S. even supported the U.K. finding of fact about Russian responsibility.


As the default continues and expands, the evidence accumulates: Trump simply will not act to protect the U.S. and its allies against even Russian aggression, even on their own territory, even in the form of attempted murder.


Trump’s inaction speaks louder than any words. It is a confession for all to hear.





7 months ago  ::  Mar 12, 2018 - 5:02PM #2
GottaGoToMo
Posts: 73,068

I really think this is picking at nits.

7 months ago  ::  Mar 12, 2018 - 5:07PM #3
yankoldfan
Posts: 4,471

donald said he could shot someone in NY and get away with it, he believes Putin could poison someone and he doesn't care, kind of tells us what he thinks about when it comes to laws of any land that concerns him or the Russian leader...

7 months ago  ::  Mar 12, 2018 - 6:05PM #4
MajorYankFan
Posts: 28,495

Sarah Sanders refuses to blame or even mention Russia in UK poisoning


The pattern continues of Crooked Donnie having no problem


lying or throwing verbal bombs at anyone but his BFF, Putin.


7 months ago  ::  Mar 12, 2018 - 6:48PM #5
yank0428
Posts: 15,218

Mar 12, 2018 -- 4:12PM, laurenf2 wrote:


Those long ago forged US allies are dated in the pass when UK came to our defense during 9/11, Trump has spoken clearly....his ally is Russia.

www.theatlantic.com/international/archiv...


Britain Accuses Russia of Poisoning—and Trump Stays Silent






A normal White House would have rushed to its ally’s defense by now.






Here’s what would normally happen after an outrage like the attempted murder of a Russian defector and his daughter with a nerve agent, in an attack that also poisoned a British police officer and exposed as many as 500 people to neurological risk.


The United States would instantly offer Britain any technical assistance it might require: forensic chemical analysis, other kinds of information collection.


Next, the U.S. president would reach out to the British prime minister with some visible demonstration of solidarity: typically, a phone call that would be photographed, with a read out of the call distributed to media. If the British thought it useful, that phone call would be backed up by a visit by some senior member of the administration: the vice president perhaps, or the secretary of state.



The official statement Prime Minister Theresa May offered in the House of Commons today, saying it was “highly likely” Russia was the perpetrator, would be immediately supported by a carefully coordinated statement by the U.S. government, as well as other important allies in an effort led by the United States.


The U.S. would lead the way to forge some kind of common nato statement, as well as—given the difficulties of Brexit—working to ensure that the European Union demonstrated solidarity too.





Should the British decide to impose sanctions, the United States would actively cooperate. If the British sanctions for example targeted individual Russians, the United States would likely target those same people.


Except for the very first measure—which happens automatically, and which only affirmative presidential action would prevent—none of those normal actions had occurred as of this writing, more than a week after the poisoning. The United Kingdom has been left to deal with this matter alone by a U.S. administration that will not respond even to a Russian WMD attack on nato soil.


It’s too early to say that the Trump administration will do nothing. Perhaps it may yet step up. Perhaps it may even calculate that joining the U.K. in sanctions upon Russians implicated in such an outrageous crime may quiet complaints about the Trump administration’s refusal to implement sanctions for Russian meddling in the 2016 election. Those questions remain open. For now, though, we are presented with the most astounding yet Trump default from traditional U.S. alliances and leadership. At Monday’s White House press conference, Sarah Huckabee Sanders rebuffed repeated questions whether the U.S. even supported the U.K. finding of fact about Russian responsibility.


As the default continues and expands, the evidence accumulates: Trump simply will not act to protect the U.S. and its allies against even Russian aggression, even on their own territory, even in the form of attempted murder.


Trump’s inaction speaks louder than any words. It is a confession for all to hear.








I think they are behind it but maybe the Presdent wants more then highly likely.

7 months ago  ::  Mar 13, 2018 - 10:58AM #6
laurenf2
Posts: 6,932

Yeah right more proof.  Their will never be enough proof for Trump to point fingers at Putin.....


www.cnn.com/2018/03/12/politics/rex-till...

7 months ago  ::  Mar 13, 2018 - 12:57PM #7
Max
Posts: 38,783

Mar 12, 2018 -- 6:05PM, MajorYankFan wrote:


Sarah Sanders refuses to blame or even mention Russia in UK poisoning


The pattern continues of Crooked Donnie having no problem


lying or throwing verbal bombs at anyone but his BFF, Putin.





The Brits are our country's best friends and a member of NATO. Russia is responsible for a chemical attack on British soil. It's disgraceful that Trump didn't mention Russia. He tweets about everything else. The Brits should invoke Article 5 of the NATO agreement, then Trump has no choice but to address Putin's shenanigans with sanctions. 

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7 months ago  ::  Mar 13, 2018 - 1:06PM #8
Max
Posts: 38,783

Mar 13, 2018 -- 10:58AM, laurenf2 wrote:


Yeah right more proof.  Their will never be enough proof for Trump to point fingers at Putin.....


www.cnn.com/2018/03/12/politics/rex-till...




I'm all for any POTUS waiting for proof. But the Brits already traced what was used in the attack back to Russia. 

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7 months ago  ::  Mar 13, 2018 - 1:57PM #9
yank0428
Posts: 15,218

Mar 13, 2018 -- 1:06PM, Max wrote:


Mar 13, 2018 -- 10:58AM, laurenf2 wrote:


Yeah right more proof.  Their will never be enough proof for Trump to point fingers at Putin.....


www.cnn.com/2018/03/12/politics/rex-till...




I'm all for any POTUS waiting for proof. But the Brits already traced what was used in the attack back to Russia. 




I have to admit I do find it strange that he does go lightly with most things involving Russia.

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