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Can Didi have his #3 spot back?
10 months ago  ::  Jun 13, 2018 - 1:23AM #21
mikedorb
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Jun 13, 2018 -- 12:32AM, jimwest wrote:


Jun 13, 2018 -- 12:10AM, mikedorb wrote:




They need another left handed option for first base. How about giving Billy McKinney a chance? Could he be much worse than Bird has been?




In his minor league career, McKinney has only played 11 games at first base. Probably not a good option.


See my post in the "Can Didi have his #3 spot back?" thread about Drury's experience at first base. He has good fielding stats, and has played 55 games at first. He isn't a LH bat, but he is hitting very well at SWB now, better than McKinney.





I heard that Drury played first base tonight which tells me maybe the Yankees have something in mind. At this point I would want just about anybody playing first base other than Bird. And I don't think Tyler Austin is a good option either. Maybe Drury will be up soon. Do you think they should consider sending Bird to Scranton? I don't know how much longer they can keep on sending him out there when he is giving them virtually no production. And it isn't like he is the only one not hitting. But if he does have options left it would be easy to make a move with him. But would they do it?

10 months ago  ::  Jun 13, 2018 - 10:13AM #22
Bats
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Sure, Didi can have his #3 spot if his numbers are going to rise. However, all in all, it's not ideal.

In the Yankees' situation, #3 spot has to have the propensity to AT LEAST get on base to setup Stanton or Sanchez for the homerun. This, assuming, Judge hits a homerun at #2.

Boogie, has been lobbying Didi to bat 3rd since the winter. However, given Didi's historical numbers,....you can't justify it. For one thing, he's a free swinger.  Even though Didi had a good BA and hit over 20 homeruns, his OBP was low. When Didi was hot earlier on, it made all the sense in the world to bat him 3rd. Then he cooled and it made all the sense in the world  to bat him lower.

If Didi can bat (IMO) consistently .290 and above, then he should be #3.

However, all in all, he should bat #5 or #6.
10 months ago  ::  Jun 13, 2018 - 12:34PM #23
Jpep
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Jun 13, 2018 -- 10:13AM, Bats wrote:

Sure, Didi can have his #3 spot if his numbers are going to rise. However, all in all, it's not ideal. In the Yankees' situation, #3 spot has to have the propensity to AT LEAST get on base to setup Stanton or Sanchez for the homerun. This, assuming, Judge hits a homerun at #2. Boogie, has been lobbying Didi to bat 3rd since the winter. However, given Didi's historical numbers,....you can't justify it. For one thing, he's a free swinger. Even though Didi had a good BA and hit over 20 homeruns, his OBP was low. When Didi was hot earlier on, it made all the sense in the world to bat him 3rd. Then he cooled and it made all the sense in the world to bat him lower. If Didi can bat (IMO) consistently .290 and above, then he should be #3. However, all in all, he should bat #5 or #6.




So who bats 3rd?  Bird? Now? That I believe that is what people are talking about.  Now. Who else is a number 3 hitter? Right now no one else makes sense except for one of the two hottest hitters on the team, and everyone seems to think thats a bad idea, except for me.  Andujar or Torres are the best hitters on the team. The excuse is they are to young and they have to pay their dues in the lower half so they don't get pressured.  Please. I don't buy that for a minute.  Yankees are the Only team in baseball with two, not one two, .300 hundred hitters on the bottom of the order 8th and 9th while a .178 hitter is 3rd and a .180 hitter is fifth.  Any other manager doing that would be in a rubber room drooling into a cup. IMO of course.lol...

10 months ago  ::  Jun 13, 2018 - 1:04PM #24
GottaGoToMo
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Jun 13, 2018 -- 12:34PM, Jpep wrote:


Jun 13, 2018 -- 10:13AM, Bats wrote:

Sure, Didi can have his #3 spot if his numbers are going to rise. However, all in all, it's not ideal. In the Yankees' situation, #3 spot has to have the propensity to AT LEAST get on base to setup Stanton or Sanchez for the homerun. This, assuming, Judge hits a homerun at #2. Boogie, has been lobbying Didi to bat 3rd since the winter. However, given Didi's historical numbers,....you can't justify it. For one thing, he's a free swinger. Even though Didi had a good BA and hit over 20 homeruns, his OBP was low. When Didi was hot earlier on, it made all the sense in the world to bat him 3rd. Then he cooled and it made all the sense in the world to bat him lower. If Didi can bat (IMO) consistently .290 and above, then he should be #3. However, all in all, he should bat #5 or #6.




So who bats 3rd?  Bird? Now? That I believe that is what people are talking about.  Now. Who else is a number 3 hitter? Right now no one else makes sense except for one of the two hottest hitters on the team, and everyone seems to think thats a bad idea, except for me.  Andujar or Torres are the best hitters on the team. The excuse is they are to young and they have to pay their dues in the lower half so they don't get pressured.  Please. I don't buy that for a minute.  Yankees are the Only team in baseball with two, not one two, .300 hundred hitters on the bottom of the order 8th and 9th while a .178 hitter is 3rd and a .180 hitter is fifth.  Any other manager doing that would be in a rubber room drooling into a cup. IMO of course.lol...




I think it's great for an opposing pitcher to have to work hard to get through the top of our lineup and then deal with Andujar and Torres at the bottom ... makes the line-up circular and so far it's working well.

10 months ago  ::  Jun 13, 2018 - 1:13PM #25
Jpep
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Jun 13, 2018 -- 1:04PM, GottaGoToMo wrote:


Jun 13, 2018 -- 12:34PM, Jpep wrote:


Jun 13, 2018 -- 10:13AM, Bats wrote:

Sure, Didi can have his #3 spot if his numbers are going to rise. However, all in all, it's not ideal. In the Yankees' situation, #3 spot has to have the propensity to AT LEAST get on base to setup Stanton or Sanchez for the homerun. This, assuming, Judge hits a homerun at #2. Boogie, has been lobbying Didi to bat 3rd since the winter. However, given Didi's historical numbers,....you can't justify it. For one thing, he's a free swinger. Even though Didi had a good BA and hit over 20 homeruns, his OBP was low. When Didi was hot earlier on, it made all the sense in the world to bat him 3rd. Then he cooled and it made all the sense in the world to bat him lower. If Didi can bat (IMO) consistently .290 and above, then he should be #3. However, all in all, he should bat #5 or #6.




So who bats 3rd?  Bird? Now? That I believe that is what people are talking about.  Now. Who else is a number 3 hitter? Right now no one else makes sense except for one of the two hottest hitters on the team, and everyone seems to think thats a bad idea, except for me.  Andujar or Torres are the best hitters on the team. The excuse is they are to young and they have to pay their dues in the lower half so they don't get pressured.  Please. I don't buy that for a minute.  Yankees are the Only team in baseball with two, not one two, .300 hundred hitters on the bottom of the order 8th and 9th while a .178 hitter is 3rd and a .180 hitter is fifth.  Any other manager doing that would be in a rubber room drooling into a cup. IMO of course.lol...




I think it's great for an opposing pitcher to have to work hard to get through the top of our lineup and then deal with Andujar and Torres at the bottom ... makes the line-up circular and so far it's working well.





Hard to disagree with that but I do. How long do you think pitchers are going to fear Bird and Sanchez?  No, I see it already.  Judge's average is steady declining since Bird has been behind him, and forget Gary that poor thing wouldn't scare a AA pitcher right now.  No Mo, I think it is getting close to having some repercussions  We'll see.


10 months ago  ::  Jun 13, 2018 - 1:24PM #26
Lola
Posts: 21,932

Jun 13, 2018 -- 1:13PM, Jpep wrote:


Jun 13, 2018 -- 1:04PM, GottaGoToMo wrote:


Jun 13, 2018 -- 12:34PM, Jpep wrote:


Jun 13, 2018 -- 10:13AM, Bats wrote:

Sure, Didi can have his #3 spot if his numbers are going to rise. However, all in all, it's not ideal. In the Yankees' situation, #3 spot has to have the propensity to AT LEAST get on base to setup Stanton or Sanchez for the homerun. This, assuming, Judge hits a homerun at #2. Boogie, has been lobbying Didi to bat 3rd since the winter. However, given Didi's historical numbers,....you can't justify it. For one thing, he's a free swinger. Even though Didi had a good BA and hit over 20 homeruns, his OBP was low. When Didi was hot earlier on, it made all the sense in the world to bat him 3rd. Then he cooled and it made all the sense in the world to bat him lower. If Didi can bat (IMO) consistently .290 and above, then he should be #3. However, all in all, he should bat #5 or #6.




So who bats 3rd?  Bird? Now? That I believe that is what people are talking about.  Now. Who else is a number 3 hitter? Right now no one else makes sense except for one of the two hottest hitters on the team, and everyone seems to think thats a bad idea, except for me.  Andujar or Torres are the best hitters on the team. The excuse is they are to young and they have to pay their dues in the lower half so they don't get pressured.  Please. I don't buy that for a minute.  Yankees are the Only team in baseball with two, not one two, .300 hundred hitters on the bottom of the order 8th and 9th while a .178 hitter is 3rd and a .180 hitter is fifth.  Any other manager doing that would be in a rubber room drooling into a cup. IMO of course.lol...




I think it's great for an opposing pitcher to have to work hard to get through the top of our lineup and then deal with Andujar and Torres at the bottom ... makes the line-up circular and so far it's working well.





Hard to disagree with that but I do. How long do you think pitchers are going to fear Bird and Sanchez?  No, I see it already.  Judge's average is steady declining since Bird has been behind him, and forget Gary that poor thing wouldn't scare a AA pitcher right now.  No Mo, I think it is getting close to having some repercussions  We'll see.





I see things too... I see a lot of complaining and what ifs... so far all your fears and fantasys are nothing but stories you make up in your head! 

10 months ago  ::  Jun 13, 2018 - 1:38PM #27
bumper
Posts: 4,914

Jun 13, 2018 -- 1:04PM, GottaGoToMo wrote:


Jun 13, 2018 -- 12:34PM, Jpep wrote:


Jun 13, 2018 -- 10:13AM, Bats wrote:

Sure, Didi can have his #3 spot if his numbers are going to rise. However, all in all, it's not ideal. In the Yankees' situation, #3 spot has to have the propensity to AT LEAST get on base to setup Stanton or Sanchez for the homerun. This, assuming, Judge hits a homerun at #2. Boogie, has been lobbying Didi to bat 3rd since the winter. However, given Didi's historical numbers,....you can't justify it. For one thing, he's a free swinger. Even though Didi had a good BA and hit over 20 homeruns, his OBP was low. When Didi was hot earlier on, it made all the sense in the world to bat him 3rd. Then he cooled and it made all the sense in the world to bat him lower. If Didi can bat (IMO) consistently .290 and above, then he should be #3. However, all in all, he should bat #5 or #6.




So who bats 3rd?  Bird? Now? That I believe that is what people are talking about.  Now. Who else is a number 3 hitter? Right now no one else makes sense except for one of the two hottest hitters on the team, and everyone seems to think thats a bad idea, except for me.  Andujar or Torres are the best hitters on the team. The excuse is they are to young and they have to pay their dues in the lower half so they don't get pressured.  Please. I don't buy that for a minute.  Yankees are the Only team in baseball with two, not one two, .300 hundred hitters on the bottom of the order 8th and 9th while a .178 hitter is 3rd and a .180 hitter is fifth.  Any other manager doing that would be in a rubber room drooling into a cup. IMO of course.lol...




I think it's great for an opposing pitcher to have to work hard to get through the top of our lineup and then deal with Andujar and Torres at the bottom ... makes the line-up circular and so far it's working well.




exactly mo. whether 1-6 are performing up to their capabilities or not, pitchers know they have to make perfect pitches to those guys so they're perhaps fatigued and let down a bit by the time they get to the bottom of the lineup.


most managers would be thrilled to getting that type of performance out of the bottom of their lineup, particularly at #9, believing (and that's what managers do) the middle of their lineup will come around.


and who was the star of the game last night - didi - a guy who was mired in the most wretched slump imaginable. this team is so good and deep that we don't need to be hitting on all cyclinders to win. there's always someone there (including the bench) to pick the other guys up.


and not knocking the kid, but torres is in a bit of a slump hitting .194 in his last 9 games, so now's not the time to move him. on the other hand, "resting" sanchez was the right move as is dropping bird in the lineup.

10 months ago  ::  Jun 13, 2018 - 1:41PM #28
Lola
Posts: 21,932

Jun 13, 2018 -- 1:38PM, bumper wrote:


Jun 13, 2018 -- 1:04PM, GottaGoToMo wrote:


Jun 13, 2018 -- 12:34PM, Jpep wrote:


Jun 13, 2018 -- 10:13AM, Bats wrote:

Sure, Didi can have his #3 spot if his numbers are going to rise. However, all in all, it's not ideal. In the Yankees' situation, #3 spot has to have the propensity to AT LEAST get on base to setup Stanton or Sanchez for the homerun. This, assuming, Judge hits a homerun at #2. Boogie, has been lobbying Didi to bat 3rd since the winter. However, given Didi's historical numbers,....you can't justify it. For one thing, he's a free swinger. Even though Didi had a good BA and hit over 20 homeruns, his OBP was low. When Didi was hot earlier on, it made all the sense in the world to bat him 3rd. Then he cooled and it made all the sense in the world to bat him lower. If Didi can bat (IMO) consistently .290 and above, then he should be #3. However, all in all, he should bat #5 or #6.




So who bats 3rd?  Bird? Now? That I believe that is what people are talking about.  Now. Who else is a number 3 hitter? Right now no one else makes sense except for one of the two hottest hitters on the team, and everyone seems to think thats a bad idea, except for me.  Andujar or Torres are the best hitters on the team. The excuse is they are to young and they have to pay their dues in the lower half so they don't get pressured.  Please. I don't buy that for a minute.  Yankees are the Only team in baseball with two, not one two, .300 hundred hitters on the bottom of the order 8th and 9th while a .178 hitter is 3rd and a .180 hitter is fifth.  Any other manager doing that would be in a rubber room drooling into a cup. IMO of course.lol...




I think it's great for an opposing pitcher to have to work hard to get through the top of our lineup and then deal with Andujar and Torres at the bottom ... makes the line-up circular and so far it's working well.




exactly mo. whether 1-6 are performing up to their capabilities or not, pitchers know they have to make perfect pitches to those guys so they're perhaps fatigued and let down a bit by the time they get to the bottom of the lineup.


most managers would be thrilled to getting that type of performance out of the bottom of their lineup, particularly at #9, believing (and that's what managers do) the middle of their lineup will come around.


and who was the star of the game last night - didi - a guy who was mired in the most wretched slump imaginable. this team is so good and deep that we don't need to be hitting on all cyclinders to win. there's always someone there (including the bench) to pick the other guys up.


and not knocking the kid, but torres is in a bit of a slump hitting .194 in his last 9 games, so now's not the time to move him. on the other hand, "resting" sanchez was the right move as is dropping bird in the lineup.




Absolutely agree with both of you 100%.

10 months ago  ::  Jun 13, 2018 - 3:53PM #29
BoogiedownBx
Posts: 1,203

Jun 13, 2018 -- 10:13AM, Bats wrote:

Sure, Didi can have his #3 spot if his numbers are going to rise. However, all in all, it's not ideal. In the Yankees' situation, #3 spot has to have the propensity to AT LEAST get on base to setup Stanton or Sanchez for the homerun. This, assuming, Judge hits a homerun at #2. Boogie, has been lobbying Didi to bat 3rd since the winter. However, given Didi's historical numbers,....you can't justify it. For one thing, he's a free swinger. Even though Didi had a good BA and hit over 20 homeruns, his OBP was low. When Didi was hot earlier on, it made all the sense in the world to bat him 3rd. Then he cooled and it made all the sense in the world to bat him lower. If Didi can bat (IMO) consistently .290 and above, then he should be #3. However, all in all, he should bat #5 or #6.




Here's a simple question: Would you rather have Bird or Didi bat #3 right now?


Indeed, I have been lobbying for him to bat #3 since winter, and that is due to what he showed me at the end of 2017. No one can argue that he played out of his mind to start the year, and was one of the best players in baseball until May. Everyone slumps, and he did for basically all of May. I think he's come around. Check his numbers in the past few games.


You should keep the youngins, Andujar and Torres, right where they are. I agree with Mo that them batting 8 and 9 makes our lineup cyclical and I like it that way.


He has the 4th highest OPS of any regular, second if you include regulars that started the season in the Bronx.


In terms of historical numbers, I'm not going by that, because he continues to improve his game. How many steals does he have this year? Historically he should have 1 or 2, not 8. Historically, he should have 7 or so homeruns, not 13. Oh yeah, he's also 2nd on the team in RBI when historically speaking, he should be at 5th or 6th.


Perhaps he ultimately will be the ideal #5 or #6 hitter. Right now, he's earned his #3 spot back until we can find this mystery .290 hitter (that is not a rookie) that breaks up the righties at the top of the lineup.

10 months ago  ::  Jun 13, 2018 - 7:44PM #30
BoogiedownBx
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Good work Boone, Didi back in 3rd, Bird dropped to 7th.

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